Thoughts On 300 Blk Out Rem 700 For My Daughter

[Gosu]

Daughter is 18 and been shooting forever and I need to find her a light duty hunting rifle. Plus I am looking for a short carry when at camp. Planned on getting her a 260 or 7mm 08 in Remington 700, but kind of like the idea of the 16" barrel Rem 700. I already have 300 BO ammo that I have reloaded for my AR before the whole NY Safe Act took off (yes I live in upstate NY).

I no longer have any ARs, funny thing I sold them all for a build that I now cannot do now. Now I am not looking to stay off on any hate for NY and Cuomo. My hunts are simple up to deer. Most shots for deer are sub 150 yards.

Anyways, I can pick a new one for just $600 and have several good stocks to put on it. Thoughts?

 

[The Gump]

A 16" .308 Winchester bolt gun with a fast twist will do everything a 16" 300BLK bolt gun will do and more without all the brass prep. Just sayin...

 

[redneckbmxer24]

A 16" .308 Winchester bolt gun with a fast twist will do everything a 16" 300BLK bolt gun will do and more without all the brass prep. Just sayin...

I agree with this. You can load soft shooting loads and you can even load the same subsonic rounds. Not to mention you can buy a box of ammo in any sporting goods store across the country.

IMO a 300BLK is damn near pointless without a can especially in a bolt gun. I can somewhat see it in a AR because it gives you a hunting legal cal and all that but the round is really best for suppressed use.

 

[mdmp5]

Unless you are shooting suppressed, the 300 blk is just another underpowered 30 caliber cartridge. Go with a 308 or 7-08

 

[fdkay]

If you want a .300 BO bolt gun, buy one.
It has ballistic properties similar to the 7.62x39 and would do well on deer to your stated range.

I don't understand this "brass prep" statement for a commercially available rounds that is commonly found sporting goods stores, along with plentiful .300 BO brass is readily available.

 

[lawman29]

Why not ask her??

 

[Gosu]

A 16" .308 Winchester bolt gun with a fast twist will do everything a 16" 300BLK bolt gun will do and more without all the brass prep. Just sayin...

Brass prep is no different than a 308 when it is already done. I have almost 1000 pcs of brass already done. For a girl, I am not in any hurry for 16" barrel 308.

If you want a .300 BO bolt gun, buy one.
It has ballistic properties similar to the 7.62x39 and would do well on deer to your stated range.

I don't understand this "brass prep" statement for a commercially available rounds that is commonly found sporting goods stores, along with plentiful .300 BO brass is readily available.

Why not ask her??

We did have 300 blk out in ARs up to a couple years ago. I used it hunting with very good success. As far as what she wants that is easy. She wants to hunt. I can tell you she doesn't like my short barrel 308 firing 175 SMK.

 

[SRSDriver]

Any suggestions on .308 hunting loads that are low recoil - I have a friend who is interested now, and a daughter who desperately wants to hunt but still needs to grow a bit.

 

[Bucket]

Any suggestions on .308 hunting loads that are low recoil - I have a friend who is interested now, and a daughter who desperately wants to hunt but still needs to grow a bit.

I hunts pigs and goats here in Aus with a Sako Black Bear in .308, and I don't feel the need to use 150gn loads, so just use Nosler 125gn BTs with a mid-range powder load (I use ADI 2208, which is the same as your H4350), which brings the recoil down to "much-more-bearable" levels and the goats and pigs don't seem to notice!
If you want to buy factories, Federal Tactical with 130gn Speer TNTs work well on game and a very accurate, without too much recoil.
Oh, and Hornady 208gn Amaxs and Trailboss work very well for subsonics with low recoil and a fair punch, though I haven't used them on game yet......

 

[Defusion]

I'm guessing .223 isn't a legal hunting caliber over there?
6,5x47 lapua should have pretty low recoil but you'll need to reload

That said, I'd probably go .243 for a low-recoil hunting gun.

 

[mountainman308]

300 blk should be fine in your circumstance, as long as you keep your loads supersonic, or the game inside of 150 yards. As far as the remington 700 in 300 blk goes, it may be underpowered when compared to a 308, but as long as your daughter's shot placement is good, it will work fine. What are you using for projectiles?

 

[mark5pt56]

I've done the 300 BLK route for my daughter, AR and bolt gun. Just have a Winchester Compact Featherweight in .308 and I loaded her some reduced loads using H4895 and 125 Sierra Pro Hunter. If you don't want to reload, Remington and Federal make reduced loads. The .243 and/or 7-08 option is a good one as well without reducing loads. The .308 will keep inventory down and you can load that puppy for a wide range of work. My .02 anyhow. I also have the Ruger GSR, that will allow a better stock fit if she needs it. Of course a 1187 in 20 gauge, compact model is another option. If you've never used H4895, follow the directions on Hodgdon's site and you will be amazed with the versatility of that powder.
Besides, the Winchester 70 and Ruger rifles will feed properly.

 

[AntiSaint]

I second the .243 recommendation. It is an excellent round that has been used on deer for a very long time. It's mild enough for children to shoot it too. I plan on buying a youth model .243 for my son when he gets to the age where he can hunt like daddy.

 

[jss204]

I don't like a 243 for hunting. I started hunting with a 243 and had very bad luck with it losing the first seven deer I had shot with it. After that I moved to a 7mm-08 which I still hunt with today.

The 300 BO is an excellent hunting round for a youth hunter. As far as the effective range goes I don't like for a youth or new hunter to take a shot over 150yds on game, there's just to much of chance for error. Low recoil and the it seems to be quieter than full power 308, both make it a good choice. Ammo has become a lot more available for the BO and more companys seem to be manufacturing it now. I have shot several deer and hogs with the factory loaded Barnes 110gr VOR-TX and all of them have had good blood trails or been DRT.

I was recently helping a friend look for a gun for his smaller framed son. We tried a youth model remington and the lop was just too long for him to shoulder comfortably. We ended up settling on an H&R in 300 BO. We paired this with a Leupold VX-R which has the red dot to help a new hunter aim on actual game. This has been an excellent setup for a brand new hunter.

 

[MarkCO]

My 12 year old, at 85 pounds shot his first deer this year with a .308 at 45 yards, then his first elk at 350 yards. I started him out last year with the polymer training rounds. Then I went to the Federal Fusion 170 grain low recoil, man are those soft. He shot both animals with full power 165s, but did a lot of his practice and such with the low recoil stuff. I have 300BO, but I agree that the .308 will offer her more flexibility down the road. He is using the TC Encore which is fairly light and fits him well.

I have my first rifle, a .243 Winchester with a shortened stock, but he was able to handle the .308 just fine and it allowed him more flexibility on the elk. He will use the .243 for Pronghorn if he gets drawn this year.

Lots of paths, most of them good.

 

[The Gump]

Just because a gun is a .308 doesn't mean a 175 needs to be used. There are 110gr .30cal bullets that would be great for 150 yard shots. Since you have a good amount of brass already done brass prep doesn't matter. The 308 offers more flexibility down the road with the benefits of low recoil now.

 

[kurt]

I don't like a 243 for hunting. I started hunting with a 243 and had very bad luck with it losing the first seven deer I had shot with it. After that I moved to a 7mm-08 which I still hunt with today.

The 300 BO is an excellent hunting round for a youth hunter. As far as the effective range goes I don't like for a youth or new hunter to take a shot over 150yds on game, there's just to much of chance for error. Low recoil and the it seems to be quieter than full power 308, both make it a good choice. Ammo has become a lot more available for the BO and more companys seem to be manufacturing it now. I have shot several deer and hogs with the factory loaded Barnes 110gr VOR-TX and all of them have had good blood trails or been DRT.

I was recently helping a friend look for a gun for his smaller framed son. We tried a youth model remington and the lop was just too long for him to shoulder comfortably. We ended up settling on an H&R in 300 BO. We paired this with a Leupold VX-R which has the red dot to help a new hunter aim on actual game. This has been an excellent setup for a brand new hunter.

Quit shooting the deer in the ass and the 243 would have killed just fine.

 

[jss204]

Quit shooting the deer in the ass and the 243 would have killed just fine.

We are talking about a round for a youth hunter who will be very excited at the chance to kill a deer. When I was started hunting with my dad at 8 years old, I was doing good to stay composed enough to hit the deer.

 

[kurt]

We are talking about a round for a youth hunter who will be very excited at the chance to kill a deer. When I was started hunting with my dad at 8 years old, I was doing good to stay composed enough to hit the deer.

So it was you and not the .243 cant blame the gun for bad shot placement. His daughter is 18 not 8. The .243 with the 85 tsx is light on recoil and high on kill. Or my go to the 105 class of 6mm projectiles is damn near cheating.

 

[athanasios23]

+1 on 243. I have killed deer with it. shot placement is key just like with any caliber. I shot some that were DRT and some that went 10-20 yards. I plan to always have a 243 in my hunting rifle collection

 

[The Gump]

I would choose .30 over anything 6mm, 6.5mm, and 7mm also because of the short barrel length needed and bullet selection as well.

 

[wakajawaka]

7.62x39 bolt guns

CZ 527
Savage model 10 FCM Scout
Ruger M77 MK II or Hawkeye
Mini Mauser M85 Zastava

 

[fdkay]

Have you considered the Savage lady hunter in 6.5CM?

 

[kurt]

Have you considered the Savage lady hunter in 6.5CM?

that would be another option that would work great as recoil is light my 8 year old shoots mine and enjoys it. good factory ammo and the ability to use it for more than close up stuff in the future.

 

[Vmaxed]

Any suggestions on .308 hunting loads that are low recoil - I have a friend who is interested now, and a daughter who desperately wants to hunt but still needs to grow a bit.

I run 165 gr SPBT with Varget around 2400 fps from my 308 for my wife. I would compare the recoil to a 223... very nice to shoot.

 

[AntiSaint]

Have you considered the Savage lady hunter in 6.5CM?

A buddy of mine shot a deer with the 6.5CM this past season on one of our trips and it was like a freaking laser. Lights out instantaneously. That would be another great round.