Caliber Questoin on AICS 2.0

[Iron Hide776]

I see there is 223, 308, and 300 WM. I am waning to build a bolt action rifle and some reading on here has shown 308 is good but 30-06 is better well rounded.
I plan on reloading my own ammo.

My question is can one of the AICS 2.0 be used to build a 30-06?

 

[ratton]

Long Action AICS 2.0. AI has magazines for the 300WM and the 338 Lapua. I believe the 300WM magazine can modified to work with the 30.06

 

[Sgposin]

I see there is 223, 308, and 300 WM. I am waning to build a bolt action rifle and some reading on here has shown 308 is good but 30-06 is better well rounded.
I plan on reloading my own ammo.

My question is can one of the AICS 2.0 be used to build a 30-06?

Keep reading if you think you want to use 30-06. There are better performing rounds. What are you doing with the rifle?

 

[Ren]

You will need to get the 2.0 long action for the 300wm. The mags will have to be modified a bit, probably by bending the feed lips in a little.

 

[Iron Hide776]

To be honest I am new to all this. I am a college student that recently found this hobby. What I am wanting to do is improve my shooting skills with in the long range area. I do not know the exact range yet but I have a range near where I live that goes out to 700 yards.

I am open to all suggestions like caliber, optics, stocks, techniques, etc. I know everyone has their own opinion but i am just looking for help.

 

[Iron Hide776]

Keep reading if you think you want to use 30-06. There are better performing rounds. What are you doing with the rifle?

If you don't mind could you point me in a direction.

 

[Sgposin]

Take a look at 6.5 creedmoor. Good for long range to 1400. Also good for hunting up to Elk. Very little recoil and cheap match ammo.


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[Mark williams]

The 6.5 family of cartridges is where I would lean towards. Creedmore , 260 are great cartridges for hunting and target. You won't need a long action for these.

 

[DKDravis]

If you're new to long range and you have no longer than 700 yds, then go for the .308... Get a longish barrel, not the fashionable 20" ones ... to get that extra bit of muzzle velocity.

The venerable 30-06 is just that ... venerable as in 108 years old. ...

 

[Sgposin]

And you can use Accuracy international .308 mags


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[Iron Hide776]

Take a look at 6.5 creedmoor. Good for long range to 1400. Also good for hunting up to Elk. Very little recoil and cheap match ammo.


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Thank you for the info. I have read about it on here.

 

[Ren]

A lot of the advice from guys will vary. It totally depends on your budget.

 

[Iron Hide776]

Well right now I am just laying to ground work. I want to go into it either buy buying a rifle and adding to it or building it from the ground up. That being said there is a limit but i will find it when the time comes.

So everything is up for discussion actions (custom or not), stocks, barrels, etc
For starters I like the Accuracy International stocks but still up for discussion.

I am here learn from the experience of others and learn a new hobby.

 

[FN in MT]

I'd certainly TRY one of the AI stocks first before simply buying one. The ergo's are not for everyone.

No doubt though.... an AI WILL SHOOT out of the box. Awfully nice to unbox it and everything is right.

I started shooting a .308 Win and recently moved to a 6.5x47 Lapua. HUGE difference in downrange performance, especially the ability to buck the wind. Less recoil as well. I'd 2nd the Motion to take a look at the 6.5's.

Good Luck and Welcome to the addiction.

FN in MT

 

[Iron Hide776]

I'd certainly TRY one of the AI stocks first before simply buying one. The ergo's are not for everyone.

No doubt though.... an AI WILL SHOOT out of the box. Awfully nice to unbox it and everything is right.

I started shooting a .308 Win and recently moved to a 6.5x47 Lapua. HUGE difference in downrange performance, especially the ability to buck the wind. Less recoil as well. I'd 2nd the Motion to take a look at the 6.5's.

Good Luck and Welcome to the addiction.

FN in MT

Why did you choose the 6.5x47 Lapua instead of the creedmoor or grendel?

 

[GhengisAhn175]

Iron hide,

My suggestion is that since your new to this field, get a 308.
Best round to learn on imo for long range.
1. Cheap ammo
2. Long barrel life. You won't be doing competitions anytime soon so with good fundamentals and shooting habits can get 10k robs in Barrel life.
3. You can take 308 to 1000 yards (if you're really proficient).

By the tine you get to the level of #3, you will have learned a whole lot more about shooting and probably what you want in a rifle with a purpose behind it. Ie hunting, long range, competition, etc.

My 2 cents sir.

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[FN in MT]

Chose the Lapua round after reading it's history. Designed from start to be capable of stellar accuracy.
I was thinking of the .260 Rem as well..... yet as a fan of "something different" I chose the Lapua round. With limited shooting, due to bad weather...it appears to be a SHOOTER.

Frankly nothing wrong with the .308 win as a starter/first LR rifle.

 

[Iron Hide776]

GhengisAhn and FN in MT thanks for the information. I am toying with the idea of .308 still but have thought it would be a great choice to learn on.

That being said is the 6.5 family barrel life that much shorter than the .308?

 

[GhengisAhn175]

Iron, hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong but here is barrel life and why its subjective.
6.5 cm / 260 rem = 3k-5k
308 = 7k-13k

Thus will depend on your shooting cadence, maintenance, etc. if you shoot like a competitor, barrel life will degrade faster.

One thing I'm unsure about and hopefully someone on sh can correct me, if you shoot past a barrel life, will anything drastic happen other than drop in accuracy?
I say this because if you're not competing or anything crazy, you can keep shooting from they same barrel until its completely worn down. Main reason why competitors change out barrel is because it shoots from 1/4 moa to 1moa.

If you're not doing anything fancy other than just plinking, no need to swap barrels until way later.

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