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Sidearms & Scatterguns Sig Scorpion traditional 1911 range report

mnhntr

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So I finally got to the range with the new Sig I just bought and thought I would write up a short range report on it. After owning close to a dozen different 1911s and carrying them on and off for years, I feel I have some experience and can give a fair assessment of them.
I wanted to be a fair as possible so I stripped and cleaned the pistol. I used PMC 230gr FMJ, Blazer Brass 230gr FMJ, Federal 230gr Hydra-shok, and my handloads which are 200gr MBC RNFP over a moderate charge of A#5. I used the 2 stock mags and a WC 47D which have been the most reliable in my experience.
I started at 7yds and fired 8 rounds out of each mag twice. I then did the Hilton Yam extractor test using 16 rounds with only one fail which threw the round in my face. Otherwise it passed with the other 15. I then loaded the mags with the ammo staggering the different types and brands to see if it would fail on certain ammo.
I fired approx. 175 rounds total and had 10-15 fail to return to full battery which required a tap to the back of the slide to push it in to battery. I attribute this to two things. First I always use Mobile 1 as gun oil on all my firearms and it has always worked well for me. I had an STI Lawman that had the same Cerakote finish that needed to be greased instead of oiled. I think this would have helped. I also think with 1911's and especially Cerakoted or any of these types of finishes, they need a break-in. I know there are verying opinions on this topic. Some may think a $1000 dollar pistol should not need one but it is a simple fact that anything having metal to metal friction get better with a little use.
As for accuracy this pistol is on par with my TRP and the Lawman. I shot two groups at 25yds with good results for me. I am an action pistol shooter and not a bullseye shooter so slowing down is hard to do. I got 5in groups shooting my version of slow fire, two handed, unsupported.
Overall fit and finish is just what you would expect from Sig Sauer. It is very well fitted and not too tight to cause failures but tight enough to know it is quality. The feel of this is very similar to the TRP with slightly less aggressive checkering on the front strap. The mag well is nice and blends from the grips but is not as slick as a race funnel magwell. I had reservations about an external extractor, but so far so good.
This pistol listed at 1099.99 and the LGS salesman who I know well gave me a deal and I got it for 859.00 plus tax. I feel for the money this is a great pistol. I paid 699 for the SR1911 when it came out and you get a lot more for the extra money it costs. While I will not say this is equal to the TRP it is very close for $500-$600 less, it is a value. The trigger is better on the TRP and this is most likely due to the Sig having series 80 parts which I will probably replace with the bypass parts. This should make the trigger better with less creep and lighter pull. I will post again when I get a few hundred more rounds down it but as for now it is a keeper. I will also get some pics posted later.
 
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I have one in the Commander frame, it is a fun little gun. Ir really does hold well in the hand with all the stippling and the grips. My wife actually suggested it when we were in a local gun store, I didn't really want it, but it has been fun to shoot. I am at around 1,000 rounds through mine, during break in it had a misfeed on the wife but she might have caused it, nothing bad has happened to me with it.

There really isn't any slop to it either, seemed to be pretty accurate, but we just blast steel I haven't gotten on a bench and shot paper groups with it. I am happy with it.
 
Similar story here picked up the commander model a few months back, I have about 400 rounds through it and have had no issues to speak of. I'm not that good with a pistol (good enough to qual expert on a MC range 2 times in 2 tries) but I was bouncing hostage targets at 30 yards the first day I had it... only killed the hostage once! I've never shot what most consider to be HIGH DOLLAR 1911's but I have shot less expensive and I would give it a thumbs up in its price range.
 
What are you guys with the Sig 1911's (not the traditional slide versions) doing about holsters? I've been looking but not a lot of options out there. Mostly the custom kydex makers are the only option at this point or the generic holsters.
 
I have the scorpion carry version, although not a die hard 1911 fan it is a great pistol for range fun, I have shot several thousand rounds in it and accuracy is there aplenty at 25 and beyond, I can hit a 5 gallon bucket at 200 yds off hand about 4-5 out of 8 shot.
I wouldn't mind the full size version.
 
What are you guys with the Sig 1911's (not the traditional slide versions) doing about holsters? I've been looking but not a lot of options out there. Mostly the custom kydex makers are the only option at this point or the generic holsters.
I would think a leather holster for a traditional 1911 would work. The Kydex has to be specific because it is rigid.
 
I would think a leather holster for a traditional 1911 would work. The Kydex has to be specific because it is rigid.

Not always. The leather holsters are pretty rigid as well. I have a small of back holster for my SW1911 and the Sig only fits if you shove it in there making it nearly impossible to get out. That goes for most of the traditional 1911 holsters available....it fits....but it's so tight that you know it's not correct.
 
I fired approx. 175 rounds total and had 10-15 fail to return to full battery which required a tap to the back of the slide to push it in to battery. I attribute this to two things. First I always use Mobile 1 as gun oil on all my firearms and it has always worked well for me. I had an STI Lawman that had the same Cerakote finish that needed to be greased instead of oiled. I think this would have helped. I also think with 1911's and especially Cerakoted or any of these types of finishes, they need a break-in. I know there are verying opinions on this topic. Some may think a $1000 dollar pistol should not need one but it is a simple fact that anything having metal to metal friction get better with a little use.

Very interesting observation about greasing rather than oiling the cerakoted pistols. I have one cerakote 1911 that I haven't shot yet, and plan on picking up a Scorpion this year as well. What type of grease are you using?
 
As for holsters I was trying to find a nice leather but wasn't able to get anything that the manufacture had tried the Sig in previously. I opted for a custom kydex and its working fine when I have the extra scratch I'm going to gt a custom leather made up for it. I would guess that more manufactures are going to start making them as they've been out for a while and selling well.

I will say this that the blackhawk SERPA ones do work didn't believe the guy at my LGS and he pulled it off the wall and proved me wrong
 
Very interesting observation about greasing rather than oiling the cerakoted pistols. I have one cerakote 1911 that I haven't shot yet, and plan on picking up a Scorpion this year as well. What type of grease are you using?

Shooters Choice Red Grease
 
Thanks Buddy,

So oil on the barrel, and the Red Grease on the slide rails to smooth up the cerakote/cerakote contact surface?
I use oil in all the small moving parts like the barrel link the hammer pivot point and safety pivot points. I use grease on the barrel where it contacts the bushing and the lugs, the slide and frame.
 
Really good information, thanks Mnhtr. I'm sure I would have been cursing up a storm with the cerakoted pistol/s without ever considering the need for better lube to account for the coating.
 
Nice gun.. I've always been a Sig P Series fan and I find their 1911's to be very attractive. I may have to look at picking up a new Commander here soon. Thanks for posting.