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I have a ruger American 243 carbine and really like it ! let me know how the 22 does .
Looks like an excellent platform for barrel upgrades, as I am almost positive they retained the barrel mounting platform from the 10/22. As is I expect it to be a bit better than a Savage. Don't care for the stock but Ruger has certainly had an ear for their customers. Aftermarket stocks and new versions should be available real soon if not already.
It does look like a real sleeper especially if they keep the barrel mounting of the 10/22. I love a 60 degree bolt lift! The only thing I don't like is it looks like the ejector is made to the bedding of the stock and not the action or trigger. This may make after market stocks a PITA. But for what it is out of the box the price is good.
Looks like a real winner for sure. It will probably be my daughters first rifle. Looking at the exploded parts view on their website it appears to take a different barrel than the 10/22's. Hopefully there will be some options for aftermarket barrels in the near future.
I'll take my 77/22 over this any day of the week.
Would you take 3 of the Americans over the 77/22? 77/22 is a damn fine rifle but $899msrp? Ouch. Just saying.
I also love the 60* bolt lift. Did not notice the ejector.....that sucks. Hopefully they will sell a ton of them and there will be plenty of aftermarket options.
Yes, I would. You see mine was given to me by my Dad and the work that's been done to it from the barrel, to the trigger job (which I did), to the stock. Yes, it's worth every penny that's been put into it! It shoots great....couldn't even begin to fathom selling it.
The only thing stopping stock makers from producing awesome 77/22 stocks is that ridiculous bottom metal configuration.
Now they come out with a new action that shows a lot of promise yet they don't solve the above problem AND they put an ejector in the damn stock?
Of all the idiotic things you could do when designing a new action... putting an ejector in the stock has to be right up at the top.
18" instead of 16.5?
No threads?
Ejector in the stock?
Mag hanger not attached to action, eliminating aftermarket stock options EXACTLY as they did with the 77/22?
They're listening to someone... but it isn't us.
Now they come out with a new action that shows a lot of promise yet they don't solve the above problem AND they put an ejector in the damn stock?
Of all the idiotic things you could do when designing a new action... putting an ejector in the stock has to be right up at the top.
18" instead of 16.5?
No threads?
Ejector in the stock?
Mag hanger not attached to action, eliminating aftermarket stock options EXACTLY as they did with the 77/22?
They're listening to someone... but it isn't us.
Got mine yesterday. Outstanding rifle. I got the 22" version and the gun balances out very well and it was well thought out and for the price it can't be beat IMHO. I call it a winner. Just shot irons with it and will scope it up later.
In stock $249 delivered
http://www.kygunco.com/ruger-american-rifle-22lr-22in-matte-black-10rd-rifle-69968
*** That didn't last long. OUT OF STOCK*******
In stock $249 delivered
http://www.kygunco.com/ruger-american-rifle-22lr-22in-matte-black-10rd-rifle-69968
*** That didn't last long. OUT OF STOCK*******
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barrel is pinned, would have been great for the 10/22 easy match grade barrel swap setup. since they already have the tooling and such, they probably should have gone with the 10/22 barrel setup.
i didn't know they were putting this out, i certainly like the look and principle of the stock, and would probably go with the compact an buy an extra "full size" high cheek weld.
found some good articles about it that really break it down, including an honest to goodness 100 yard test while the others were at the "traditional" 50 Y.
Real Guns - Ruger's New American Rimfire Rifles
Ruger American Rimfire Bolt-Action 22 LR Rifle
Ruger American Rimfire Review (additional parts of the review at the bottom)
but, except for the aftermarket stock situation as described above (even though there are the boyd's tacticool & thumbhole, richards microfit, mcmillan, volquartsen for 22/77) this may be the one that bridges the gap between savage and cz, at least for sporter barrels. wront really know until the rimHIDERS get a hold of one.
kinda reminds me of a browning A bolt + zastava 99 / charles daly / remington 5 receiver sitting in a savage axis stock with a marlin barrel, 10/22 sights and magazine, and an accutrigger. good to see the safety is where it should be.
bedding feature is a plus.
OOPs just seen RSR's post. for 249.00, it'll be hard to beat unless they come out with a bull barrelled one for alittle more $.
i didn't know they were putting this out, i certainly like the look and principle of the stock, and would probably go with the compact an buy an extra "full size" high cheek weld.
found some good articles about it that really break it down, including an honest to goodness 100 yard test while the others were at the "traditional" 50 Y.
Real Guns - Ruger's New American Rimfire Rifles
Ruger American Rimfire Bolt-Action 22 LR Rifle
Ruger American Rimfire Review (additional parts of the review at the bottom)
but, except for the aftermarket stock situation as described above (even though there are the boyd's tacticool & thumbhole, richards microfit, mcmillan, volquartsen for 22/77) this may be the one that bridges the gap between savage and cz, at least for sporter barrels. wront really know until the rimHIDERS get a hold of one.
kinda reminds me of a browning A bolt + zastava 99 / charles daly / remington 5 receiver sitting in a savage axis stock with a marlin barrel, 10/22 sights and magazine, and an accutrigger. good to see the safety is where it should be.
bedding feature is a plus.
OOPs just seen RSR's post. for 249.00, it'll be hard to beat unless they come out with a bull barrelled one for alittle more $.
it looks to me like a solution to a problem that wasnt there. but ruger wanted to get into the low-end bolt action game to try and take some market share from salvage and remingtons shitty-stocked low-end rimfires. the only way i thought they could get a leg up is if they offered it threaded from the factory and they failed on that.
i think orkan summed it up the best.
i think orkan summed it up the best.
Copied this over from my post on another website. Figured I'd toss it up here.
Here are some preliminary photos. Sorry they aren't great. The more I handle this rifle the more impressed I am with it. It feels very solidly built. I swapped out the butt/cheek piece and it literally takes 10 to 15 seconds. Unscrew the rear sling stud and then pull out the stock and place the new one in. Very quick and no rattles.
I mounted a 12x Leupold and used Leupold QRW quick-release rings. The rings are definitely a little heavy looking but they are very solid rings. This way I can shoot scoped or open sights and the whole conversion will take less than a minute. Pop off the scope and swap the butt/cheek piece. Pretty cool if you ask me.
The stock is solid. Remington could take some lessons from Ruger on how to make synthetic stocks. The barrel is perfectly centered in the stock and the action mounts into the stock with a unique pillar system. Check that link to Real Guns for photos of that. At $259 I think Ruger knocked this one out of the park! Oh, and it's nice to see bluing that isn't just matte finish to hide rough machining.
Here are some preliminary photos. Sorry they aren't great. The more I handle this rifle the more impressed I am with it. It feels very solidly built. I swapped out the butt/cheek piece and it literally takes 10 to 15 seconds. Unscrew the rear sling stud and then pull out the stock and place the new one in. Very quick and no rattles.
I mounted a 12x Leupold and used Leupold QRW quick-release rings. The rings are definitely a little heavy looking but they are very solid rings. This way I can shoot scoped or open sights and the whole conversion will take less than a minute. Pop off the scope and swap the butt/cheek piece. Pretty cool if you ask me.
The stock is solid. Remington could take some lessons from Ruger on how to make synthetic stocks. The barrel is perfectly centered in the stock and the action mounts into the stock with a unique pillar system. Check that link to Real Guns for photos of that. At $259 I think Ruger knocked this one out of the park! Oh, and it's nice to see bluing that isn't just matte finish to hide rough machining.
Got to the range the other day and spent some time with the Ruger American Rimfire. I shot several types of ammo at 100yds. I wasn't super excited with the results but I think I have a major flaw in my front rest. I was shooting off of my 3" wide top which is meant for a 3" wide flat BR stock. I'll probably retest the rifle with a better and more stable front rest. Here are the groups. All at 100 yards.
Best groups were with Eley Tenex and I think it could actually shoot better than this. Group avg of .978 MOA and my technique wasn't as good on group 2 as it was for group 1 (.782 MOA) as you can tell from the gap between shots 1&2 and 3,4 & 5. All shots were basically touching except for the huge gap in POI.
Next up is Eley Match OSP which is technically a rapid fire pistol ammo.
Aguila Match Rifle
CCI Standard Velocity
SK Std+
Best groups were with Eley Tenex and I think it could actually shoot better than this. Group avg of .978 MOA and my technique wasn't as good on group 2 as it was for group 1 (.782 MOA) as you can tell from the gap between shots 1&2 and 3,4 & 5. All shots were basically touching except for the huge gap in POI.
Next up is Eley Match OSP which is technically a rapid fire pistol ammo.
Aguila Match Rifle
CCI Standard Velocity
SK Std+
Okay after handling this rifle at Cabela's yesterday I take back what I said about this rifle. With the proper love it will be a nice shooter and the targets above show some promise.
Nathan, the 77/22 is a great rifle. The one I had was one of the only rimfires I've owned that felt so similar to a centerfire rifle. They just have a very RIFLE feel to them.
This little American though is a low cost, high "value" rimfire. For about $260 you get a pretty accurate rifle that can be put to serious work in the woods or as a trainer for kids. Or for what I bought mine for which is a lighter rifle for my wife to shoot in silhouette competitions on the few times a year she joins me. Cheers!
This little American though is a low cost, high "value" rimfire. For about $260 you get a pretty accurate rifle that can be put to serious work in the woods or as a trainer for kids. Or for what I bought mine for which is a lighter rifle for my wife to shoot in silhouette competitions on the few times a year she joins me. Cheers!
How many rounds through it? I've noticed my rimfires really start to tighten up groups after a couple hundred rounds.
I can understand and agree with you completely on that statement.
since its been a couple months since you've first shot the rifle and im going to guess and say put a whole lot of rounds through, have your groups tightened up at all? The accuracy on this, even though its at 100yrds, isnt comparable to what ive seen of the savage mkII and I want to make sure i get the most accurate rifle.
I'm leaning pretty heavily towards one. From what I've read and seen of this rifle, I pretty much like everything about it, though I wish the trigger could be adjusted lower then a 3 pound pull. I expect we'll see some fix for this eventually. I like the fact that it's 100% American made, and IMHO, no one can match Ruger's customer service. This may be a low cost value, but I bet it has the capability of high class performance. I'm so close to getting one!
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I really want one of these but am going to hold out for one with a threaded barrel. It looks to be promising.
If they come out with a Varmint Barrel version, I will buy one. Can't get by the front site!
i got to fondle one of these on saturday. IMO the feel and the build is much better than the savage tupperware stocked stuff - being a lefty i really like they put the safety where it belongs. putting it on safety and back to fire was very fluid.
grip angle felt a heck of a lot better than a savage tupperware stock, it felt really nice coming up to the shoulder, though a little front heavy. the finish of the blueing also appears to be superior to a mkii, i think the RAR is crying for a a nicely finished wood stock - that's how nice the finish looked in person.
i really appreciated the recessed crown, it seemed the sporter barrel was thicker than a mkii sporter barrel, almost maybe even fatter than a marlin sporter barrel. i didn't have a mic with me, just appeared so.
i also really liked the open sights, the carryover from the 10/22 rear sight was beautiful, and working the mag seemed natural with the extended release.
the angle of the bolt handle / knob was surprising, it stood out away from the stock enough to find easily (both left and right handed operation), without being squished up against the stock.
it seemed a bit stiff upon closing the bolt, but it was a new rifle. otherwise it was somewhat smooth for a new rifle everywhere in between. i didn't dryfire it, so i have no feel for the trigger pull, though it seems the face of the trigger is wider than the usual "trigger in trigger" setups.
it didn't seem cheaply made at all, i liked the look and feel of it more than savage's bmag or mkii, almost has a sako / tikka ness to it.
grip angle felt a heck of a lot better than a savage tupperware stock, it felt really nice coming up to the shoulder, though a little front heavy. the finish of the blueing also appears to be superior to a mkii, i think the RAR is crying for a a nicely finished wood stock - that's how nice the finish looked in person.
i really appreciated the recessed crown, it seemed the sporter barrel was thicker than a mkii sporter barrel, almost maybe even fatter than a marlin sporter barrel. i didn't have a mic with me, just appeared so.
i also really liked the open sights, the carryover from the 10/22 rear sight was beautiful, and working the mag seemed natural with the extended release.
the angle of the bolt handle / knob was surprising, it stood out away from the stock enough to find easily (both left and right handed operation), without being squished up against the stock.
it seemed a bit stiff upon closing the bolt, but it was a new rifle. otherwise it was somewhat smooth for a new rifle everywhere in between. i didn't dryfire it, so i have no feel for the trigger pull, though it seems the face of the trigger is wider than the usual "trigger in trigger" setups.
it didn't seem cheaply made at all, i liked the look and feel of it more than savage's bmag or mkii, almost has a sako / tikka ness to it.
Copied this over from my post on another website. Figured I'd toss it up here.
Here are some preliminary photos. Sorry they aren't great. The more I handle this rifle the more impressed I am with it. It feels very solidly built. I swapped out the butt/cheek piece and it literally takes 10 to 15 seconds. Unscrew the rear sling stud and then pull out the stock and place the new one in. Very quick and no rattles.
I mounted a 12x Leupold and used Leupold QRW quick-release rings. The rings are definitely a little heavy looking but they are very solid rings. This way I can shoot scoped or open sights and the whole conversion will take less than a minute. Pop off the scope and swap the butt/cheek piece. Pretty cool if you ask me.
The stock is solid. Remington could take some lessons from Ruger on how to make synthetic stocks. The barrel is perfectly centered in the stock and the action mounts into the stock with a unique pillar system. Check that link to Real Guns for photos of that. At $259 I think Ruger knocked this one out of the park! Oh, and it's nice to see bluing that isn't just matte finish to hide rough machining.
What is the demensions of the dovetail?
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Can those iron sites be removed?
Can those iron sites be removed?
looks like the rear can be drifted out (dovetailed) in about 30 seconds and the front is held on by a screw. the rear also folds down 10/22 style.
if you ever removed a marlin's rear and front site, or a savage mkii's sites, they appear to require the same amount of minimal effort.
if you ever removed a marlin's rear and front site, or a savage mkii's sites, they appear to require the same amount of minimal effort.
from the ruger site: A 3/8" rimfire scope base is machined into the receiver, which is also drilled and tapped for Weaver® #12 bases (not included).
i noticed the receiver base hole "plugs" have torx like screws, which i though was some good attention to detail rather than a plain ol slotted screw or allen.
Then a DIP rail is in order?
I like the idea of sharing mags with the 10/22, the iron sights are good, and the adjustable comb is kind of nice.
I don't think (from what I've seen) that is as accurate as the Savage or the Marlin which cost $100 less. All I can say is for $150, I am very impressed with the accuracy of the xt-22.
I don't think (from what I've seen) that is as accurate as the Savage or the Marlin which cost $100 less. All I can say is for $150, I am very impressed with the accuracy of the xt-22.
ok i'm at odds on getting a RAR (guess that's the "cool" term for it) or a CZ american for silhouette use. any one else have any 100Y groups they'd like to post up to help me decide whether to get one or not?
i've been scanning the 'net the last few days doing more reasearch on this thing. alot of 25 & 50 yard stuff, some 100Y stuff, but only enough to get me around 75% sure to fill out paperwork for one. would rather rely on the shooting skills and opinions here on the hide for anything past 50Y putting equipment through the wringer more than anywhere else to get me the rest of the 25% confident to buy one.
was looking to do a CZ 455 american for a dedicated silhouette hunting class rifle, but this ruger has really my attention. as the CZ has the features to change calibers and such, as the silhouette rifle will stay .22lr, i have no use for that feature for this setup. as long as it's half minute of ram at 109Y, consistant enough to let me know it was shooter error and not the equipment, i think the RAR will fit my needs for 150.00 less. found a guy on steelchickens that first match shot with the RAR, pulled off some impressive scores, though he is a higher classed shooter than i. "trent" may be "trental" that posted earlier in this thread (same group pics, AO and such) steelchickens.com ? View topic - My first match with the Ruger American Rimfire (i sent you a PM over there, may as well do the same here).
from what i get alot of folks were using run of the mill bulk and HV ammos, of which the rifle didn't seem too bad handling them, but will probably go with CCI SV.
if i go with the RAR my simple setup will be:
RAR (hopefully 18" compact)
nikon buckmaster 6-18 target dot
millet engraved med. angle loc 3/8 dovetail rings
fiddle with trigger for a 2lb pull
boyd's rimfire hunter stock, walnut (tweaky, yet fits hunting class rules)
2 extra BX-1 mags (black, i see the clear ones don't work as well)
i've been scanning the 'net the last few days doing more reasearch on this thing. alot of 25 & 50 yard stuff, some 100Y stuff, but only enough to get me around 75% sure to fill out paperwork for one. would rather rely on the shooting skills and opinions here on the hide for anything past 50Y putting equipment through the wringer more than anywhere else to get me the rest of the 25% confident to buy one.
was looking to do a CZ 455 american for a dedicated silhouette hunting class rifle, but this ruger has really my attention. as the CZ has the features to change calibers and such, as the silhouette rifle will stay .22lr, i have no use for that feature for this setup. as long as it's half minute of ram at 109Y, consistant enough to let me know it was shooter error and not the equipment, i think the RAR will fit my needs for 150.00 less. found a guy on steelchickens that first match shot with the RAR, pulled off some impressive scores, though he is a higher classed shooter than i. "trent" may be "trental" that posted earlier in this thread (same group pics, AO and such) steelchickens.com ? View topic - My first match with the Ruger American Rimfire (i sent you a PM over there, may as well do the same here).
from what i get alot of folks were using run of the mill bulk and HV ammos, of which the rifle didn't seem too bad handling them, but will probably go with CCI SV.
if i go with the RAR my simple setup will be:
RAR (hopefully 18" compact)
nikon buckmaster 6-18 target dot
millet engraved med. angle loc 3/8 dovetail rings
fiddle with trigger for a 2lb pull
boyd's rimfire hunter stock, walnut (tweaky, yet fits hunting class rules)
2 extra BX-1 mags (black, i see the clear ones don't work as well)
I haven't shot mine since I shot it in that silhouette match I posted on steelchickens a while back. In the next couple months I'm going to shoot it in some local matches. I've been my high dollar rifle trying to keep up with the big guys. I won the Florida State match for Standard rifle yesterday. Got 2nd in AAA for Hunter today. Choked on chickens of all things.
I think the RAR is one of the best value rifles. I'm very impressed with mine. No regrets at all.
I think the RAR is one of the best value rifles. I'm very impressed with mine. No regrets at all.
thanks trental, and congrats on the standard rifle title, and the runner up in hunting rifle.
for those that are unfamiliar with silhouette, that's 4 different targets, off hand, 4 different distances at 40 targets ranging from a .50 piece to a soda can, 43 - 109 yards.
for those that are unfamiliar with silhouette, that's 4 different targets, off hand, 4 different distances at 40 targets ranging from a .50 piece to a soda can, 43 - 109 yards.
I was looking at one of these today, full size and compact. I had the thread on the CZ and I think I will run with one of these, trying to decide on which one. Right now, this makes more sense since I do have a couple 10-22's and extra mags for one. For precision, I think I might hold off and get the Anschutz I really want instead of not being happy with the CZ if I get a bad one or putting money into it.
