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Spring 2014 ASC Ladies Match Possible Date Change

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Spring matchs are fast aproching.

We will be having 2 matchs this spring. First match will be held on Mothers Day weekend. May 9th, 10th, 11th. This may be changed to May 2nd, 3rd, 4th??This will be a ladies only match. No husbands, boyfriends, ect will be allowed on the mountain. LADIES ONLY..Husbands, boyfiends, ect. will be allowed to come to Sat night dinner, but will have to pay for their meal.Guys feel free to come along with your gal and enjoy the wonderful area for a few days while your gal does the shooting. Fishing should be great that time of year. There is also Rock climbing, Hiking, and lots of other things to do here. This will be a Charity Match will all proceeds going to the Breast Cancer Center at WVU. We had a really hard time finding some place that was woman related that would take our donataions. All other places contacted refused our donation due to the fact that it was being raised by the shooting community, at a shooting event. We are hoping that there is enough intrest and enough ladies that will come out to enjoy a weekend of shooting in the WV Mountains, to help out a good cause. All information for match fees, registration, and Who to make checks out to, directions, places to stay, ect will be posted here at a later date. Hopefully with in a week. Match fees will cover the match, dinner Sat night, and a hat. Extra dinner tickets will be 25.00 each.

The second match will be May 16th, 17th, 18th. It will be open to everyone with all calibers up through 30 Cal Magnums. If you plan on shooting something hot you better ask first. You may be asked to help replace steel if you start punching holes. Info on match fees and other info will be posted later when the offical match anouncement is sent out to the email list.

If you wish to be added to the email list go to the match website and fill out the contact page. ascmatch(dot)us

The website will be updated soon with new match dates and info for both matches.

Hopefully the weather will soon break and we can start match prep, and start setting steel.

Mark you calendars, See you in May.

Brock
 
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Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Match announcement will be going out soon. That will start the registration process. All other information regarding the match, directions, where to stay and what there is to do for the Guys the first weekend will be included. I will post match announcement here as soon as I get it from Rod. If you wish to be added to the email list go to the website and send in your contact. Web site info posted above. That way you will be first in line to receive it and not have to wait on it here. Check you email often, and send in your contact info.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen-
Almost as casually as any of the countless comments spoken during last spring's ASC, the idea of hosting an all women's match sprang to life. Who actually made the suggestion is not clear, but Katie Adkins (John's Daughter) built on the idea by suggesting Mother's Day weekend as the most fitting date for such an event. Without missing a beat she followed one good idea with another when she suggested making it a charity match with the proceeds going to breast cancer research. So, the plan for ASC this spring is to do just that, but not wanting to leave the rest of you out in the cold, there will be a second match on the weekend after Mother's Day.
We fully anticipate lots of questions, especially from new ASC competitors. We would ask that you to thoroughly read the entire email before asking questions. In addition, please forward this email to anyone you think might be interested in participating in the ladies match.

There are two primary goals for holding the women's only match. The first is to provide a venue where the increasing number of women interested in long range shooting can come together as competitors and to meet other members of the community. The second is to raise funds for the search for a cure to breast cancer which affects one-in-eight women in the US. In keeping with the second goal, whether you sign up to shoot either of the matches your tax deductible charitable donation to this cause would be very gratefully accepted.
Under the heading of "For What It's Worth" a little more background about the process behind some of the details that follow and why it has taken nearly three months effort to get to this point seem to be worth a few sentences. Our original intent was to identify and partner with a national breast cancer research charity that had state and local affiliates. The thinking behind this goal was to accommodate community based contributions by all competitors. The charities fulfilling this goal declined to participate in the fundraising effort because of the tie with firearms. So be it. We elected to refocus our effort on university breast cancer centers, specifically the West Virginia University Mary Babb Randolph Cancer Center in Morgantown WV. The staff at the WVU Foundation were very enthusiastic and helpful in working through the process, despite the funding source being firearms related. Further, they should be congratulated for not having lost sight of the real purpose for which the center was established.
With that obstacle behind us, one further hitch in our original plan had to be resolved. The plan had been for each competitor to write a single check made to the charity, send it to us and then forwarded to the charity once they were all in hand. Simple, and clean, right? Well, not so fast. Apparently, due to IRS regulations that would be in play no matter what charity was selected, the fair market value of the product or service being used as a fund raising vehicle is not tax deductible. In this case that amounts to $250. The IRS regulations do not prohibit the fund raising organization from donating additional proceeds from the event. The complete details about how this is going to be handled are covered below, but 100% of the funds raised for the women's competition will benefit the breast cancer center at WVU.
At several points in the process of working out the details for this charity match there was a temptation to proceed in a different direction, but in each instance we were carried forward by the belief that relatively modest additional effort would benefit the search for a cure to breast cancer. We hope that you will join us in that belief.

Enough on the background, let's get to the fun part.

First things first, the match dates are:

May 9, 10, and 11, 2014- Women competitors only breast cancer charity match;

May 16, 17 and 18, 2014- Open Match

WOMEN'S MATCH: The minimum contribution for the women's match is $300. As stated above, all proceeds from this charity match will benefit breast cancer research at the West Virginia University Mary Babb Randolph Cancer Center in Morgantown, WV. WVU and the Cancer Center are not involved in the planning, management or conduct of this event.
The sign up and payment process will work as follows: Competitors will request a slot on the roster by return email. Prior to the "match fee" deadline noted below you send two checks. The first check, for at least $ 50, should be made out to the WVU Foundation. On the memo line of this check write "ASC Breast Cancer Charity Event". Once received, the foundation will send you a letter acknowledging your tax deductible contribution. The second check should be made out to HSG (not SSG) for $250. Both checks are to be mailed to the address provided below. We will bundle the proceeds from the second checks and forward the entire amount to the WVU Foundation. The foundation will issue a letter acknowledging this donation as well, and it will be made available to all competitors.

The women's only event means exactly that. While fully recognizing there will be many circumstances where competitors will travel to Seneca Rocks with a sponsor, friend, husband or father, in keeping with the spirit of this event, no one other than competitors will be allowed on the mountain during the match. Like every other match in the country, ASC is as much a social event as it is a shooting match and we welcome all the traveling companions to participate in the evening activities. The cost of dinner on Saturday night for non-competitors is $25. As many of you know there is no shortage of activities in and around Seneca with which to occupy your time while the ladies are shooting at one of the most beautiful and challenging venues in the country. Among them are mountain biking, rock climbing, fishing, hiking, caving or just hanging out. We can recommend local attractions to those that are interested.

There are a number of companies serving the long-range shooting community that actively support female shooters. If you are among this group, we hope you will encourage these women to participate in this charity event. Alternatively, this match might provide the impetus to add to your team roster. As always, your generous support of ASC is very much appreciated.

OPEN MATCH: OK, there is going to be a little twist here that is a departure from the way the match fee has been handled in the past. A two tiered fee structure will allow a portion of the competitors to lock in slots for the second match and support the quest for a cure to breast cancer. The base match fee is $250.00. If you would like to lock in a slot for the match you can do so by making a tax deductible contribution of $100.00 to the WVU Foundation. In turn, your match fee will be reduced to $200.00. Obviously, this will require that you write two checks- one to SSGfor $200.00 and the second to WVU Foundation for $100.00. The sign-up process is the same as for the women's match.
General match information follows. Again, if you have questions, ask them.
General Match Info
Match Dates: Women’s Match- May 9, 10 and 11, 2014
Open Match- May 16, 17 and 18, 2014
Please Send All Checks To: Rod Hansen
PO Box 883
Ashburn VA 20146
The deadline to receive match fees is: April 25, 2014
The match fee includes dinner on Saturday night and an ASC ball cap.

Saturday Night Dinner: Brock's tenderloin seems to be as big a draw to ASC as the shooting, so we will continue the tradition by providing dinner on Saturday evening. Bring your beverage of choice.
Driving Destination
Seneca Rocks, West Virginia Use Google, MapQuest or your GPS. If you start looking for it on a map, bear in mind that Seneca Rocks is just an intersection with a handful of buildings and some sheep. The following info will help in locating Seneca Rocks:

From the Northeast: Find Strasburg, Virginia on I-81. Take Rt. 55 West through Wardensville (watch your speed here, the speed limit is 25 mph and they will ticket at 26 mph), Moorefield, and Petersburg to Seneca Rocks. If you are traveling this route be sure to use the new 4-lane section of Rt. 55; it starts 1.2 miles past the 7/11 in Wardensville. Exit the highway in Moorefield at the intersection with Rt. 220. Turn left to rejoin Rt.55. The new highway cuts out the hilliest/curviest portion of the drive on old Route 55 between Wardensville and Moorefield.

From the Southeast: Find Harrisonburg, Virginia on I-81. Take Rt. 33 West through Franklin to Seneca Rocks. Follow the signs for Rt. 33/ Seneca Rocks.

From the West: Find Elkins, West Virginia and take Rt. 33 East to Seneca Rocks.
Groceries
Please note that the closest real grocery store is 22 miles away in Petersburg, so either bring food from home or plan to stop in Elkins, Petersburg, Moorefield (24-hour Wal-Mart w/grocery and a Food Lion), Harrisonburg (many options), or Franklin. The grocery store in Franklin are not up to the standards that you will find in major metropolitan areas so if you need something exotic, plan on another option. There are a couple of local convenience-type stores at Seneca (Beer, milk, eggs, etc.).
Accommodations
All of the following options are within a 30 minute drive of the meeting place. The cabins might be a good option to explore if you are traveling with a few other shooters.

Yokum's Vacationland: Hotel, cabins and camping 1-800-772-8342 or (304) 567-2351. The camping option at Yokum's will have more road noise than Seneca Shadows.

Harmon Cabins: (304) 257- 2220 picturesque setting in a deep canyon next to the river.

Smoke Hole Cabins: Several guys have found this an attractive option.(304) 257-4442

Seneca Shadows Campground: US Forest Service Facility. Full-on bathrooms (hot water) and group sites. Ask some of the guys from previous years, but I think several of them went together on a couple of group sites and it worked out well. It's a good (cheap) option if the weather is reasonable. USFS in Elkins (304) 257-4488 or (304) 567-2415 for information.

The Front Porch Restaurant : Above Harper's Store. This is the best local place for lunch and dinner if you arrive early on Friday. The menu offers plenty of variety and reasonable pizza. The owner of the store and restaurant is Joe Harper, who also owns the land where we hold the match. You might want to see if he is around and say thanks for letting us use his farm for the event.

Macksville Mart: This gas station /convenience store offers made to order breakfast sandwiches to start your day. It is located a mile or two South on Rt. 33 (toward Franklin and Judy Gap) on the right.

If you are a first time ASC shooter stop in at The Gendarme (Down the lane between Harper's and Yokum's) when you arrive at Seneca on Thursday and pick up a local area map highlighting campgrounds etc and the location for the shooters meeting. Look for the envelope marked Match Info on the bulletin board to the left of the door of The Gendarme. If you have any interest in rock climbing at any level poke your head in the door - they have it all including the best local guide service/ instruction.
Mandatory Shooters Meeting
The shooters meeting will be held at Rod's house (See local map that you pick up at The Gendarme). Attendance at the shooters meeting is mandatory. Planned start time is 7:00 PM on Thursday night prior to the start of each match.
Weather Preparations
As anyone that has spent any time on the mountain will tell you- be prepared for anything. It could be quite cool, especially in the morning and baking hot by afternoon. Bring clothes appropriate for the anticipated conditions. Don't forget sunscreen. The elevation at the match site is approximately 3,500 ft. - right on the Eastern Continental Divide.
Food and Water
Make sure you have plenty of water to meet your needs during the match. Bring whatever food you need for a full day. There will be time throughout the day to eat, but no planned lunch break. There are no bathroom facilities at the match site so be prepared for that too!
The Match
1. No rifles over .30 caliber. Magnums are OK. If you are thinking about shooting a non-SAAMI caliber it must be approved in advance. 3,100 fps velocity limit. If your caliber/load combination is capable of exceeding 3,100 fps it will be checked.

2. There will be no sighters

3. Laser range finders will be allowed on nearly all stages.

4. There will be no whining

5. Bring an operationally ready rifle and support gear. We presume you know what you need and use. If your equipment load starts getting over 35 pounds including your rifle, you might want to take a closer look at what you are planning to carry. You will enjoy the short walks in the hills more if you are hauling a minimum load. Think essentials!

6. Round Count: 180 rounds is plenty. It looks like some of the activities on the mountain over the past months might open some additional opportunities for target placement so the potential round count has been increased.

7. We like to think of this match as sniper golf - it involves short walks (50-300 yards) between firing positions as you engage various targets. This approach allows us to take maximum advantage of the terrain and present a very wide variety of shooting challenges. You will be moving throughout the day so plan your load accordingly. Target options include well over 3 tons of steel of various shapes and sizes. Stress in some form, will be an integral part of some shots.

That covers it. Those of you that have been to previous matches know the drill. Those of you that are new to ASC will probably have some questions - ask them. If you are a new ASC shooter you might want read the articles provided. The match changes every year, but these articles will give you an idea of what to expect.

We are looking forward to seeing previous year's participants and meeting all of the new folks.
Plan on a good time!
Registration Is Open
 
How do you get registered for this match? I have sent via E mail my contact info and interest in shooting.
 
Reply to the above announcement to [email protected] that you want a slot. Recieving an announcement only means your on the "mailing list". Please DO NOT send money unless you A: Are including a donation to secure a slot per the announcement or B: Have a reply from Rod telling you that you have a slot and need to send your entry fee. FYI Plenty of slots for the Ladies only match are still open!!!!
 
Reply to the above announcement to [email protected] that you want a slot. Recieving an announcement only means your on the "mailing list". Please DO NOT send money unless you A: Are including a donation to secure a slot per the announcement or B: Have a reply from Rod telling you that you have a slot and need to send your entry fee. FYI Plenty of slots for the Ladies only match are still open!!!!

I'm confused:

Were we supposed to reply to the email requesting a slot - and wait for an email from Rod asking us to send in donation and entry fee checks?

Or, were we supposed to:

Send a donation check as a request for a slot?
 
Scenario 1

You choose to make the charitable donation, and are including the required donation to lock in a match slot.:
In this case reply to Rod that you are doing so, and go ahead and send your checks for both the match fee and the donation to Rod per the announcement.
In the case that the match fills up, your checks will both be returned, per my conversation with him today.

Scenario 2

You want a match slot, but do not wish to donate to the charity.
In this case reply to the match announcement, but wait until you recieve a confirmation selection for registration before you send a check.

Clear as mud? :)

Thanks for your patience!
 
trying to put logistics together for the women's match May 9, 10, and 11, 2014-anyone got cabin space or wanna go in on a cabin?

I also see that storm mountain has May 8-10 Carbine-II (CQB Prep) class going at the same time that I am thinking about doing when wife is on the mountain....PM me

2014 Course Calendar - Storm Mountain Training Center

jim and jane
 
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Jim, Syd (My Daughter) Would be interested in a Cabin if we could enough folks in to make it worth while. about 6-8 paying customers makes it the most economical boarding available.
 
Is anyone staying anywhere besides yokums? I'm coming by myself if I get in. Yokums up the road (not over the store ) was pretty unpleasant last time I stayed there but I also want to be where the people are. The fellowship is a fun part of this match to me. So do any of the veterans stay anywhere else but there ? Over the store might be better ive never stayed there.
 
The trick to staying over the store is take a shot of the water in the bag over the door before you go to bed. Never slept better.

Sent from the firing line.
 
The rooms above the store are nicer than the motel down the road and usually filled with shooters during the match. I've never stayed at the cabins but I have heard they are hit or miss depending which establishment you choose.
 
I know from last year the Motel was pretty damn bad down the road. The cabins were also a mess and needed bug bug bombing. I think this year I am going to camp (less bugs than in the rooms!).
 
Try smoke hole cabins. They are about 10 miles north. They are normally better. They also have some houses they rent. Some of the houses near Seneca arnt so good and have bad water. For camping Seneca shadows NF camp ground is close and have hot showers.

Harmans North Fork Cottages are also near by. About 9 miles. They are probably the nicest cabins around. Some have out side hot tubs and all have a nice deck over looking the river. They offer Catch and Release Trout Fishing for any of their guest. 304-257-2220
 
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Notice!!!

We have tossed around the idea of changing the dates for the Womans only Match to May 2nd, 3rd, 4th. Those that have already registered should have been contacted already. It seamed that several wemen have stated that the original dates interfeared with their Mothers Day Plans. Please reply hear and/or through the Contact link on the ascmatch(dot)us web site if these new dates would serve you ladies better. We are hoping the new dates will increase those that can/will participate. Thanks Brock/ASC CREW
 
Does that mean that the other match will be moved to (the usual) Mother's Day weekend, or will those dates remain?
 
Only the ladies match is going to change if it happens. Open match will remain May 16,17,18. That keeps us all from having to buy extra flowers!!! Brock
 
Brock, when do you expect to know? Syd elected to shoot the match and NOT walk at her College Graduation on the original Date. If you move it she can Make Momma happy and register for Graduation!
 
Brock, when do you expect to know? Syd elected to shoot the match and NOT walk at her College Graduation on the original Date. If you move it she can Make Momma happy and register for Graduation!

WOW - that is dedication to shooting! Congratulations Jon for having such a dedicated daughter! She is good enough to rock the men's field so she can successfully shoot both ASC matches this spring!
 
Jon, Call Rod. Last time we talked it was not going to make any difference if we moved the match or not. For each woman gained we had a woman lost. I think it is May 9,10,11 but he was going to make the final call. Brock
 
Shooters should try to arrive about 10-15 min before 7:00pm for the shooters meeting so we can get settled and start by then. A NOTE ON WEATHER FOR EVERYONE : Weather is forecast to be mild with a chance of rain. You should read this as there is no clue what will hit us on the mountain. Up there we have seen snow at this time of year to driving monsoon/hurricane conditions(50-70mph gusts with heavy rain on the ridgeline one match). Temperatures may range from freezing to near 100deg. Come prepared for anything in between for the full weekend. Ususally each morning you can look at the forecast and update your loadout accordingly with no problems. Good rain gear and clothes to let you be comfortable down to the mid 40's in the morning should be adequate. Sun screen suggested as well at least for your face. We will NOT stop the match for foul weather, unless lightning or severe conditions create a safety concern and if you go off the mountain you cannot come back for the rest of that day. Staff will be prepared to stick it out with you, whatever you are shooting in. Be safe driving in, we have lots of deer. Look forward to seeing everyone this weekend.