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Seekins Interview, SP10M Complete Breakdown

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    Here is my 24 Minute interview with Glen Seekins, if you want knowledge bombs when it comes to a semi-auto and what makes a good semi-auto great, this is the interview to watch



    It's the secret sauce here for sure,

    PS, don't get distracted that splash screen we are talking Aliens, because, Aliens Rule
     
    24 minutes and I’m convinced I may need a precision AR15/10... great.

    Looks like a great rifle, I like the system approach they are doing with these.
     
    Great video. Makes me that much more confident in the order I placed in February for an sp10 in 6.5. Hopefully it ships soon because I’m chomping at the bit to get my hands on it. Lol.
    Do you know if the flat wire buffer spring is an M exclusive thing or does it also go into the commercial guns as well? The mechanics of how they are using the higher closed bolt spring pressure to control the dwell time and early bcg momentum sound really smart to me.
     
    Great video. Makes me that much more confident in the order I placed in February for an sp10 in 6.5. Hopefully it ships soon because I’m chomping at the bit to get my hands on it. Lol.
    Do you know if the flat wire buffer spring is an M exclusive thing or does it also go into the commercial guns as well? The mechanics of how they are using the higher closed bolt spring pressure to control the dwell time and early bcg momentum sound really smart to me.

    I don’t know if the flat wire is in production models but if not David Tubb makes a flat wire buffer spring for ARs.
     
    Great video. Makes me that much more confident in the order I placed in February for an sp10 in 6.5. Hopefully it ships soon because I’m chomping at the bit to get my hands on it. Lol.
    Do you know if the flat wire buffer spring is an M exclusive thing or does it also go into the commercial guns as well? The mechanics of how they are using the higher closed bolt spring pressure to control the dwell time and early bcg momentum sound really smart to me.

    I've got one. You won't be disappointed.
     
    Great video as always. Awesome to see small changes in the AR platform that work together to yield a significant result. Now my wallet wants to spend money I don’t have for an SP-10.
     
    If anyone is interested I've got a 30% and 20% off coupons for Seekins. With the 30% off you can get a brand new SP10 6.5 CM for $1850.

    Send me a PM if interested.
     
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    I actually had a 40% coupon, my shooting partner and I ordered an sp10 and a havak in 6.5 at the same time. Definitely anxious to get our hand on em!
     
    Great video. Makes me that much more confident in the order I placed in February for an sp10 in 6.5. Hopefully it ships soon because I’m chomping at the bit to get my hands on it. Lol.
    Do you know if the flat wire buffer spring is an M exclusive thing or does it also go into the commercial guns as well? The mechanics of how they are using the higher closed bolt spring pressure to control the dwell time and early bcg momentum sound really smart to me.
    I have an SP – 10 that I purchased three months ago and it came with the flat wire spring.
    Phil G
     
    would you say the seekins is more accurate or more reliable than a Jp enterprises? Or on the same page.
     
    Has the improved/modified ejection port been implemented in the SP-10 commercial series rifle and builders set? Will it be?
     
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    Has the improved/modified ejection port been implemented in the SP-10 commercial series rifle and builders set? Will it be?
    That’s what I’m waiting to find out too. I’ll bump this up in hopes of finding out.
     
    There ya go. Think I might have to buy a SP10. Definitely a lot going on behind the scenes.
     
    I love Seekins products but I just don't get it. This looks like the definition of diminishing returns.

    For that kind of money, it would be foolish to NOT go with KAC who has the pedigree and millions in R&D behind them that has resulted in most of the large frame AR's such as this. The LMTM8 would also be another combat proven, hard duty use design. They both just plain work, in shitty environments with little support needed.

    If I am a small department or any agency, why I am I going to take a flyer on a gun that is new and unproven over something that has 15-30 years of combat and duty proven pedigree?

    Most competent builders/armor's could but something similar , with similar performance, and arguably better components to work as a system. It doesn't have to be all designed by the same outfit to work well as a system. Until this gun has gone through the same kind of trials and testing as its military counterparts then its unproven. Independent controlled testing in numbers and volume is the only way to proof a system. Most shops not named KAC/COLT/BCM and DoD can't afford this.

    Doing ridiculous amounts of QA on parts that quite frank;y, don't really factor into the reliability/durability/accuracy equation is a waste of labor hours that could be better put towards optics/lasers/ accessories. Its a poor use of resources that drives the price up beyond proven systems like Larue/LMT into KAC type prices Proprietary parts that don;t add value to the equation

    Call me a pessimist, but i don't see them selling many of these to actual duty end users.
     
    Doing ridiculous amounts of QA on parts that quite frank;y, don't really factor into the reliability/durability/accuracy equation is a waste of labor hours that could be better put towards optics/lasers/ accessories.

    OMG Glenn... Primus has figured it out, you have been wasting countless man hours in designing a quality firearm, you should put your R&D into making lasers...lol..lol

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    "Doing ridiculous amounts of QA on parts that quite frank;y, don't really factor into the reliability/durability/accuracy"

    Last I checked, doing ridiculous amounts of quality assurance/control was what separated the Top-Tier semi-autos from the mass-produced junk.

    Oh... And doing "QA" on Barrels, BCG, Receivers, and Buffer Systems doesn't really factor into reliability/durability/accuracy????...LMAO

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    Negative child.

    Spending time inspecting the outside dimensions of a lower that has zero relevence to the fit and function of the weapon, especially with CNC machining is not really needed.

    I would venture to guess unless they let tools go dull , once the tool paths and fixtures are dialed in, there is not much need to inspect everything. Hence why batch testing is used. This insist 20 guys on bridgeports spinning dials and wheels.

    You could build a million dollar rifle that is identical to a $2000 rifle, if you elect to QA/QC/Non destruct test it to the nth degree. Both are going to come out of the machine within tolerance and modern CNC's are going to be within .0005".

    Material science is more important at this point and as long as you are using quality, sourced material you should be good to go.

    Anyone want to guess how many top tier parts don't pass MP or other non destructive testing? What do you think the reject rate is?
     
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    Very Very Low, IE less than 1%. Which is why some manufactues don't even MP test besides the fact it actually weakens the part.

    MIL-STD-1916 is why some still do it.
     
    Folks on the hide can argue about just anything, it seems.
     
    Very Very Low, IE less than 1%. Which is why some manufactues don't even MP test besides the fact it actually weakens the part.

    MIL-STD-1916 is why some still do it.

    Are we talking about magnetic particle inspection here? If so, how does it weaken the part?
     
    Even if you are too stupid to "Get it" the military does and there is reason, not just a method to the madness

    Lives are on the line in this context, it's not meant for guys plinking on the weekends.

    What Glen is doing is paying off, more so than most realize
     
    I'm Pissing myself laughing...lol

    I'm watching Tropic Thunder for the first time, and I can stop thinking of Primus as Simple Jack!!....


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    Who do you think buys these weapons for the war fighter and federal LE? Who do you think has to understand these requirements in the FAR/DFAR/various regs?

    Considering the cat who defines the requirements, determines if something meets spec and whether or not the contractor gets paid, doesn't get shit or gets sued; I have a pretty good idea about gov and .mil requirements.

    Just because there is some archaic standard or regulation ( which is what the small arms procurement community has to deal with, when 50 years ago weapons and components were sourced from suspect materials with hard to control process resulting in not getting the alloy you want). Doesn't matter if its Davis-Bacon or Mil-STD-1916, both are bureaucratic, non value added requirements. Today we can get material in the exact alloy we want and heat treatment that is an exact science.

    Like I said I like seekins products and own a number their products. But those who actually understand this platform and what there is out on the market, the history,ect; can see there is nothing new here that hasn't already been done or tried.

    Lets be real , how many of these guns do you think are going to go onto a 2 way range? Its cute marketing for the non professional market. You think the cats down at 10th group are going to be trading in their SR-25's, G28's and MK20's for this?
     
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    Why are Accuracy International Military Variants bonded to the chassis so you cannot remove them? With over 60+ countries using them must be a reason they are bonded when no other precision rifle is bonded to the chassis system.

    Things and Spec's change all the time, it's not Low IQ types buying all these things, look at the PSR now ASR Program and how many Millions have gone into R&D to meet the specs.

    There are very specific specs for everything from gas leakage at the suppressor to a very specific bipod spec of which nothing currently on the market meets

    Clearly, once word gets out you might find a clue, but only if Alex lets you buy one
     
    Sure but why would you want too, call MHSA I bet they sell you one, it's twice as much as the SP10 though.

    Just get the SP10, non M for less money, the same rifle essentially
     
    Sure but why would you want too, call MHSA I bet they sell you one, it's twice as much as the SP10 though.

    Just get the SP10, non M for less money, the same rifle essentially
    Do you know if they have any 18" 6.5s in the works. 22" + a can seems too long east of the Mississippi