True, yeah we do on occasion! I don't even go out in it - not because of the lack of knowledge of how to drive in those conditions - it's to avoid the numerous asses that don't!
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True, yeah we do on occasion! I don't even go out in it - not because of the lack of knowledge of how to drive in those conditions - it's to avoid the numerous asses that don't!
Yup, those amazing northern snow drivers. Been my experience there are bad drivers everywhere.
I just put blizzaks on my subaru, for my commute up into the eastern Sierra. Dang that car is unstoppable with those tires. Downright enjoyable to drive in those condition imo.
You're comparing a Great Lakes blizzard that dumped at the rate of several inches an hour to a light dusting. Good one. Try again.
The Firestone Winterforce on my car allow me to easily and SAFELY push 5 to 10 mph over what drivers with all season tires can do.
For those of you who might think that's irresponsible, you're wrong. I can go faster not because I can get going faster, but because I can steer and brake effectively from higher speeds. Snow tires develop more traction than all seasons in the same conditions. Period. Full stop.
Don't poke the Yankee. Next thing you know he'll be telling us 'how they do it up north'.
It's really about being able to clear the roads, not some magic ability to drive in snow. I've lived in Colorado, PA, eastern slope of the rockies. Dumbasses everywhere.
I'm a huge fan of outright winter tires too, but they are FAR more expensive than a set of chains and not ideal for those who see only a couple-few snowfalls a year and the mercury rarely dips into single digits and below. In the south outside of the Appalachians, chains and a good all-season tire set really are the best option. Everything closes at the first flake there anyhow, so most driving until the plows get the roads cleared can be held off.
A good 3PMSF all season tire handles most conditions for folks who see typical 1-4 snows a year and where a winter spends more time above freezing than below, and requires no additional investment such as wheels (nowadays with expensive TPMS too) or additional mount and balance costs. Top that with a set of chains or cables that run under $200 for a good set of four (also the price of just one decent winter tire), and your traction will exceed even the best studded winter tire out there. Only caveats are you can't be a lazy fuck and not put them on because they don't do shit for you in the trunk, and you aren't getting anywhere fast (<30mph) so stick to town.
@Redmanss you're absolutely right and that's how I rolled when I lived in the west coast and KS. Now that I live in the snow belt, the snow tire investment more than pays for itself.
I happen to have a car that doesn't need exotic, giant rims and ultra low profile tires so here's how I made snow tires affordable:
I happen to have a car that doesn't need exotic, giant rims and ultra low profile tires so here's how I made snow tires affordable:
- Went -2 on the tire/rim size. Summer tires are 205/50R16, winter tires are 185/70R14
- Went with cheap aftermarket rims instead of OEM
- Buy whichever winter radials in my size are on sale/closeout on Tire Rack online
- Did not pay for TPMS sensors. I can live with the TPMS light on in the dash for 3 months out of the year. Since I'm not a millennial, I own and know how to use a tire pressure gauge
- These tires see only about 3 months of road use, which means a set lasts me on average 5 years.
- Since the tires are always mounted on rims, I change them out in my garage while drinking whiskey
On simpler vehicles like my old ‘97Explorer, yeah, TPMS what? On my lady’s fancy Subaru with all the safety add-ons like X-Mode, adaptive cruise and emergency braking, a TPMS fault disables all that stuff so it’s not an easy option to skip that one.
Here in Wyoming, I’m a bit slow this year getting to the snow tires for the new car, but I did drive across the Hills a couple weeks ago in the Subaru on stock tires and snow covered roads with zero problem, just did 45 instead of the usual 60. Roads in town are mostly a glazed ice covering on packed snow, just can’t get this thing to slip, but then again I know how to take my sweet time.
My Exploder, well it does donuts if you pop the clutch slightly wrong. Fucking open diffs... It wears chains a lot.
Here in Wyoming, I’m a bit slow this year getting to the snow tires for the new car, but I did drive across the Hills a couple weeks ago in the Subaru on stock tires and snow covered roads with zero problem, just did 45 instead of the usual 60. Roads in town are mostly a glazed ice covering on packed snow, just can’t get this thing to slip, but then again I know how to take my sweet time.
My Exploder, well it does donuts if you pop the clutch slightly wrong. Fucking open diffs... It wears chains a lot.
I see that as a plus. We have two old cars (2005 Chrysler Pacifica, 2010 Honda Fit). ABS brakes is about as high tech as it gets on them. We also have a new Toyota RAV4 AWD with a lot of that "driver assist" bullshit. I have disabled as much of it as I can. I hate all that shit.
Ouch, that really sucks. Seems these storms are running towards the south the last few years and us in the southern parts of the Mid-Atlantic have been lucky.
Then again people from the south kind of laugh at what they call "heat waves" in more northern climates.
But around here driving on Ice / snow everybody follows very strict rules.
1. Go as fast as you can, swerving around and cutting off anyone going slow.
2. Once you are in front of the person who was going slow, stomp on the gas for effect
3. Realize you are now on a solid sheet of ice going over a bridge.
4. Stomp on the brakes as hard as you can
5. Commence the ice ballet. (Style points awarded if you can hit the retaining walls on both sides of the road in the same action).
Points also awarded for sliding on your rooftop, tumbling, number of highway signs taken out, and if you come to rest on top of another vehicle.
6. Call 911 / Insurance company
Now if they would just pretend the ice is rain and all slow to a crawl wondering if they should go forward like happens every time it rains they would all get home safely.
But around here driving on Ice / snow everybody follows very strict rules.
1. Go as fast as you can, swerving around and cutting off anyone going slow.
2. Once you are in front of the person who was going slow, stomp on the gas for effect
3. Realize you are now on a solid sheet of ice going over a bridge.
4. Stomp on the brakes as hard as you can
5. Commence the ice ballet. (Style points awarded if you can hit the retaining walls on both sides of the road in the same action).
Points also awarded for sliding on your rooftop, tumbling, number of highway signs taken out, and if you come to rest on top of another vehicle.
6. Call 911 / Insurance company
Now if they would just pretend the ice is rain and all slow to a crawl wondering if they should go forward like happens every time it rains they would all get home safely.
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Little piece of black electrical tape makes that light go away. ?
Yeah. Just what in the name of all that is holy is freakin’ wring with people and driving in the rain? We have people that pull off of the road and stop, we have people that slow down to 25 in the left lane of the interstate and turn on their flashers (which st least let’s me know that there’s a moron ahead) and we have those that don’t turn on their headlights so that they are running silent and deep since you cannot see them.
I survived this shit sandwich in a rental Chrysler 300. This is I-75 southbound just north of the River Rouge bridge in Detroit. Anyone who knows that place knows what I'm talking about.
That road would have left any cocky southerner crying for momma on the wall.
That road would have left any cocky southerner crying for momma on the wall.
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Unfortunately DC shows signs of evil life. The scum sucking fucking evil ones survived and America is the worse for it
Right?! I grew up in Mid-State New York and gained my snow driving skills while in Michigan. I live in Florida now, so I guess it should not surprise me that the drivers here suck. Just remember that almost all of those morons are from somewhere else up north. They bring their crappy driving skills and ideas to change Florida into their previous home state with them.
Didn't we already do that once?...........
Just messin with ya MtCrick. Aint trying to start the second war of northern aggression
Idiots from all over try driving on the nice roads here in CO. See a fool with a 50k car with pimped rims and low pro tires stuck in a snow bank. I used to commuted 45 miles each way in an old Honda Civic with Nokia Haka's, studded. Never had an issue, never got stuck. Car was paid for in cash.
Yeah....Ummm.... hows that working out for you...I never met a southerner that moved north to get away from the south....
I bet that's as much fun as a lawn chair at the public boat ramp on a Saturday
Weather like this just proves that the majority of people are sheep. Hoping the government will make sure the roads are clear so they can get around in the storm, instead of making sure your vehicle is snow worthy in the first place. Saw it on my trip back from Maine, just before thanksgiving. Maine drivers all good. As soon as we got into Mass, everything turned to shit, and the storm was less severe.
Or the docks....ever watch and listen to some people trying to dock or shove off? LOL
Met a buddy a the ramp last month and as I pulled up, I noticed the white guide posts of a trailer sticking out of the water.
I asked the owner if he wanted help pulling it out of the water.
He said his buddy had a strap but it wasn't long enough.
My response was that a trailer could be pulled out by hand.
He asked what about the truck attached to it...
I didn't see a truck, nor did I look for one because there was a blue chevy sitting where his truck should have been.
Turns out his 2017 Super Duty diesel went in with the trailer.
Two 30' tow straps and a 20' chain got the truck and trailer out.
I snapped it and shared with Geno, 1J04 and Oneshot.
Looking back, I should have made a full video of it...
I'm pretty sure he's gonna press Ford on this issue. The parking pin had failed to engage.
My F-250 has done it too, but I always set the parking brake.
I wish I had taken pics. I used snap like a dumbass and have nothing to show for it.
It was pretty awesome to watch.
The best part is he is a fishing guide and had clients about 20 minutes out when the truck was pulled out of the water.
CO is not the worst just yet. Just messin with ya too. I am a jersey guy who spent most of his life in the south or overseas.
So you spend your weekends in dad's basement?
Pre sunrise report for upstate S.C.
No zombies in sight , they may not like the bottoms of their feet cold from the slight amount of ice?
The French toast was delicious.
No zombies in sight , they may not like the bottoms of their feet cold from the slight amount of ice?
The French toast was delicious.
Every car we own has two sets of wheels. Nice rims with all season tires and steel rims with blizzard. The truck has a set of knobbies on steel for winter. I put them on Black Friday and take them off Good Friday.
Why not Blizzaks for the truck too? I thought about steels for my Winterforces but the savings over aftermarket aluminum wasn't all that great.
My two other cars are AWD and are driven mostly in urban areas where snow removal is much more effective. I have to commute 30 rural miles, and even the state highways that are part of the route are often a mess when I need to go.
It's REAL bad in upstate SC...
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/uh...cle_2113e4c0-fbc2-11e8-bea5-6ffe68a52138.html
https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/uh...cle_2113e4c0-fbc2-11e8-bea5-6ffe68a52138.html
Dixie is full of pussies. That's a dusting.
And I don't want to hear the sad song of "We don't have enough plows here". We hardly even get roads plowed here, the town is snow and ice covered from December-March.
I think it's more of a joke about the Waffle House Index. However, we have an abundance of really stupid folks in this part of the country that can barely drive with their bald tires even on dry pavement.
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