The things you list might make good trading material for food.
The OFFICIAL 'Wuhan' Coronavirus outbreak information and tracking thread. NARRATIVE CHANGE. "Endemic, just like the cold". Cuomo regrets lockdown.
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Watch this and see if any implications can be drawn from testing only people that have symptoms.
Perfect opportunity for some more 'freedom' aka social credit score and cashless society.
''LAST YEAR, A GOVERNMENT COMMISSION CALLED FOR THE US TO ADOPT AN AI-DRIVEN MASS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM FAR BEYOND THAT USED IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN ORDER TO ENSURE AMERICAN HEGEMONY IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. NOW, MANY OF THE “OBSTACLES” THEY HAD CITED AS PREVENTING ITS IMPLEMENTATION ARE RAPIDLY BEING REMOVED UNDER THE GUISE OF COMBATING THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS. ''
''Chief among the troublesome “structural factors” highlighted in this presentation are so-called “legacy systems” that are common in the U.S. but much less so in China. The NSCAI document states that examples of “legacy systems” include a financial system that still utilizes cash and card payments, individual car ownership and even receiving medical attention from a human doctor. It states that, while these “legacy systems” in the US are “good enough,” too many “good enough” systems “hinder the adoption of new things,” specifically AI-driven systems.
https://epic.org/foia/epic-v-ai-commission/EPIC-19-09-11-NSCAI-FOIA-20200331-3rd-Production-pt9.pdf
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond...e-using-coronavirus-fulfill-orwellian-vision/
While it is appearing that commerce / travel is beginning to open up... That is not the case for the rest of the world.
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www.aljazeera.com
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Coronavirus: Travel restrictions, border shutdowns by country
Countries around the world have taken drastic measures, including border closures, in an attempt to curb COVID-19.
Maybe now we can build the wall.
Or would demshits still defend illegal aliens.
You come in legally on a ship or plane or check point we can test them, and the dumbshits are ok with that but defend illegal activity.
Stupidity.
Or would demshits still defend illegal aliens.
You come in legally on a ship or plane or check point we can test them, and the dumbshits are ok with that but defend illegal activity.
Stupidity.
IHME data updated. Death estimates increased by 9%. Just in time for the "reopening" processes/plans that a few states are starting to implement.
Told ya.
Models work both ways and I predicted the model would trend back up - wasnt hard to see what was going to happen.
One way or another trump WILL have "blood on his hands".
Told ya.
Models work both ways and I predicted the model would trend back up - wasnt hard to see what was going to happen.
One way or another trump WILL have "blood on his hands".
do you mean Bill Gates/Microsoft and their 666 patent on biometric chipping tied to "obedience certificates" that control your bank account
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTBIBLIO
Bill Gates, Microsoft file patent for dystopian "body activity data" apparatus - Operation-Nation™
It's no longer a "conspiracy theory." Patent documents were published this week for Microsoft and Bill Gates body activity data system for ID2020.
operation-nation.com 
do you mean Bill Gates/Microsoft and their 666 patent on biometric chipping tied to "obedience certificates" that control your bank account
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTBIBLIO
Bill Gates, Microsoft file patent for dystopian "body activity data" apparatus - Operation-Nation™
It's no longer a "conspiracy theory." Patent documents were published this week for Microsoft and Bill Gates body activity data system for ID2020.
And people used to laugh at those of us quoting the old bible prophecy from thousands of years ago about no man being able to buy or sell unless he had the implant in his hand or head... and well... here we are and I'll bet most people claiming to believe in that book will go right ahead and get it.
Also what do you want to bet that they strongly push the one that can read your thought patterns and probably control them...
I can pretty much already start listing the folks on the hide here who will be demanding the whole global population be forced at gunpoint to get this "Vaccine" regardless of it it actually works, or if they don't even need it.
Life could get interesting very soon.
Life could get interesting very soon.
Death will get interesting too...very interesting.
No need for Bill Gatesdo you mean Bill Gates/Microsoft and their 666 patent on biometric chipping tied to "obedience certificates" that control your bank account
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTBIBLIO
Bill Gates, Microsoft file patent for dystopian "body activity data" apparatus - Operation-Nation™
It's no longer a "conspiracy theory." Patent documents were published this week for Microsoft and Bill Gates body activity data system for ID2020.
At some point you have to realise that MIC , Intelligence Services and large parts of government simply envy Chinese government for the way they can influence ,steer and if necessary coerce the plebs . They are seeing in China stuff of their wet dreams and would like to go one better at home .COVID-19 is just opening they waited for to force more 'freedom' ,'patriot' whatever stupid label they like to stick to it.
''U.S. government organization called the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence (NSCAI). It was created by the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and its official purpose is “to consider the methods and means necessary to advance the development of artificial intelligence (AI), machine learning, and associated technologies to comprehensively address the national security and defense needs of the United States.”
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Spend $3 million for a secret survival bunker and then post an article like this... LOL
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yes they will. I'm surprised how many ex-military and popo are so eagerly behind the whole lockdown. To the point where I see some of them popping up on FB pages to troll the groups who want to reopen the economy. I had to delete several people I know well because of this. And they are all eagerly behind the totalitarian measures, and are all nominal "christians" who should know what totalitarianism always does to Christians.
But many people always want to side with power instead of morality. So when I see people like that, who I thought were friends, I realize that they are in fact enemies who would cut my throat or rat out my "thoughtcrime" for cash or just a pat on the head. And they'd do it with a smile on their face. So, buh-bye.
BREAKING: RANDOM ANTIBODY TEST SHOWS THAT 14% OF NY STATE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN INFECTED WITH COVID-19 AND RECOVERED.
A voluntary and random sampling of 3,000 grocery shoppers at various NY State, including metro NYC supermarkets have shown that over 14% of the sampling pool carry antibodies specific to COVID-19, which may prove the theory that the novel coronavirus known as SARS-COV-2 have indeed arrived in the continental USA much earlier than March 2020, and have spread undetected for a while. It will also explain why this year's "flu" season had been exceptionally severe, as many people, including members on this very board, have fallen sick with flu-like illnesses earlier this year but tested negative for any known influenza strain. Over 2.7 million New York State residents may have contracted COVID-19 sometime earlier this year, based on the results of the sampling pool.
www.syracuse.com
A voluntary and random sampling of 3,000 grocery shoppers at various NY State, including metro NYC supermarkets have shown that over 14% of the sampling pool carry antibodies specific to COVID-19, which may prove the theory that the novel coronavirus known as SARS-COV-2 have indeed arrived in the continental USA much earlier than March 2020, and have spread undetected for a while. It will also explain why this year's "flu" season had been exceptionally severe, as many people, including members on this very board, have fallen sick with flu-like illnesses earlier this year but tested negative for any known influenza strain. Over 2.7 million New York State residents may have contracted COVID-19 sometime earlier this year, based on the results of the sampling pool.
New York antibody tests: 2.7 million possibly infected with coronavirus statewide
The state tested 3,000 people for coronavirus antibodies in recent days.
www.syracuse.com So the fucking mongol virus from those shity china assholes just got real for my entire familiy and inlaws.
We sat around the reloading room and discussed this while prepping 308 cases.
Sons inlaws did some travelling in November and December.
Up the entire west coast, and then wait for it, steady lads, ITALY for several weeks.
This culminated in Christmas and New year's dinners with shared food prep and serving for the whole clan.
Every one of us had what we thought was the normal winter flue.
One grandchild went to hospital, and I being old and beat up should have with severe symptoms but held out thinking it was the flue.
I think an antibody test is in order.
Yes or no answere, no God damned stats, credentials or hypothetical bull shit.
Oun or nine, shisten or nix shisten.
But I will bet there are several on here that can't comply with a simple task without being a dick.
We sat around the reloading room and discussed this while prepping 308 cases.
Sons inlaws did some travelling in November and December.
Up the entire west coast, and then wait for it, steady lads, ITALY for several weeks.
This culminated in Christmas and New year's dinners with shared food prep and serving for the whole clan.
Every one of us had what we thought was the normal winter flue.
One grandchild went to hospital, and I being old and beat up should have with severe symptoms but held out thinking it was the flue.
I think an antibody test is in order.
Yes or no answere, no God damned stats, credentials or hypothetical bull shit.
Oun or nine, shisten or nix shisten.
But I will bet there are several on here that can't comply with a simple task without being a dick.
You probably all had the Wuhan Virus.
There is lots of us who have had it and were sicker than we had been in years, but got over it and got back on with life and are now really pissed off about the government murdering the economy, the bill of rights, the constitution and common sense.
I said that back in the thread W54 started. I'm willing.
I'm just wondering if they really want to know the answer like you and I. It would severely firk up their little numbers game.
BREAKING: RANDOM ANTIBODY TEST SHOWS THAT 14% OF NY STATE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN INFECTED WITH COVID-19 AND RECOVERED.
A voluntary and random sampling of 3,000 grocery shoppers at various NY State, including metro NYC supermarkets have shown that over 14% of the sampling pool carry antibodies specific to COVID-19, which may prove the theory that the novel coronavirus known as SARS-COV-2 have indeed arrived in the continental USA much earlier than March 2020, and have spread undetected for a while. It will also explain why this year's "flu" season had been exceptionally severe, as many people, including members on this very board, have fallen sick with flu-like illnesses earlier this year but tested negative for any known influenza strain. Over 2.7 million New York State residents may have contracted COVID-19 sometime earlier this year, based on the results of the sampling pool.
New York antibody tests: 2.7 million possibly infected with coronavirus statewide
The state tested 3,000 people for coronavirus antibodies in recent days.
Anecdotal
No, that’s probably good data. We still need to see more details on their methods, but I suspect that’s not far off. Note that it confirms the ~1% IFR that has been predicted all along from the rest of the data.
You ever get less leathal training?
Ie taser?
Your qualifying class most likely included getting a short ride. Same with pepper sprays/ cs, bean bag rounds etc. Yes?
So don't take it pesonal getting called a dick, I have been vetted many times over. Thought I would get the hose.
In retrospect , too sic to shoot, reload, walk or stand upright, could hardly breath.
Maybe if I weren't a dick I would have gone to the emergency room like a normal person, still feeling rough.
Ie taser?
Your qualifying class most likely included getting a short ride. Same with pepper sprays/ cs, bean bag rounds etc. Yes?
So don't take it pesonal getting called a dick, I have been vetted many times over. Thought I would get the hose.
In retrospect , too sic to shoot, reload, walk or stand upright, could hardly breath.
Maybe if I weren't a dick I would have gone to the emergency room like a normal person, still feeling rough.
I would seriously suggest that you get one of those little fingertip SpO2 meters that you can get just about in any pharmacy for cheap and test yourself regularly. If you get into the low 90s you need to be very concerned.
If you are still feeling rough, you should monitor yourself to be on the safe side because it's not unknown to have a relapse if your body doesn't fully fight it off.
That being said, if you had it and are recovering, expect a tickling cough at the very least for a month, or at worst being winded and weak all the time for a month.
Allready went through that. Was short of breath falling down dizzy.
The o2 test, my doctor priviosly said I was bad but one point off from ss disability due to work place injury.
Why, because she doesn't want to treat me for that on insurance and workmans comp is owened by the companies not the state.
Didn't bother with her iether, useless.
The o2 test, my doctor priviosly said I was bad but one point off from ss disability due to work place injury.
Why, because she doesn't want to treat me for that on insurance and workmans comp is owened by the companies not the state.
Didn't bother with her iether, useless.
A smart dude from DHS dropped some knowledge at yesterday's briefing:
It would appear that the virus suffers greatly from a combination of increased temperature, increased humidity, and solar radiation. This is extremely encouraging, at least with regards to the short-term outlook.
I'll leave it to one of the smarter members to comment on the suggestions offered by the president immediately afterwards, as I only have a modest amount of experience with UV disinfection techniques.
It would appear that the virus suffers greatly from a combination of increased temperature, increased humidity, and solar radiation. This is extremely encouraging, at least with regards to the short-term outlook.
I'll leave it to one of the smarter members to comment on the suggestions offered by the president immediately afterwards, as I only have a modest amount of experience with UV disinfection techniques.
UV is what has turned Bikini atoll from a nightmare to almost inhabitable. The issue is that radiation is still in the soapstone and leeches into the food supply if grown locally.
Ultraviolet Radiation: How It Affects Life on Earth
Stratospheric ozone depletion due to human activities has resulted in an increase of ultraviolet radiation on the Earth's surface. The article describes some effects on human health, aquatic ecosystems, agricultural plants and other living things, and explains how much ultraviolet radiation we...
UV is a powerful disinfectant.
I dont ever work with UV or anything, I learned most of what I know about UV disinfection from reading threads in forums on the internet, and watching government doctors on tv....and....I did stay at a holiday inn Express last night.
If you put a UV light in your AC system you get net cleaner air. Not because UV treats the air-stream but it treats the coil. The coil stays clean because nothing can grow on it. Which make the air cleaner. But UV does not treat the air. The air is moving by the light to fast to kill anything in the air. UV needs exposure time to work.
Cool thing about UV light is the hertz it vibrates at. Understand that and you can use it fishing for pelagics in deep water. Also look at where UV penetration is most prevelant and match that to the high and low spots in the earth's magnetic field. Understand that the animals of the world interact with that field through their vermosal gland. Get an understanding of that you have a pathway to target them land or sea. The high spots in that magnetic field act like waypoints in their migrations or home range. Brings the why a buck will cross the high spot in a field into perspectiveUltraviolet Radiation: How It Affects Life on Earth
Stratospheric ozone depletion due to human activities has resulted in an increase of ultraviolet radiation on the Earth's surface. The article describes some effects on human health, aquatic ecosystems, agricultural plants and other living things, and explains how much ultraviolet radiation we...earthobservatory.nasa.gov
I use this little thing at home to clean room by room
and if we leave house for more than couple hours I also run the ozone generator, with AC ventilation on to distribute the shit all around the house
Both have increased in price recently...
and if we leave house for more than couple hours I also run the ozone generator, with AC ventilation on to distribute the shit all around the house
Both have increased in price recently...
So given your experience with germicidal UV, would you recommend direct exposure to the skin or internal organs?
The eyes. Lots and lots for the eyes.
I don't have much experience with using UV other then having a fish tank that had one once, and thinking about buying a UV disinfection cabinet, but from what I read being exposed to UV that is intensive enough even for a few minutes will result in a higher instance of cancer, and there are issues with proper sealing. After looking at it I decided the cabinet wasn't really necessary for disinfecting packages.
Kind of interesting, involving UV Irradiation of Blood. I am sure that is what Trump meant when he was explaining the available treatments.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/
Kind of interesting, involving UV Irradiation of Blood. I am sure that is what Trump meant when he was explaining the available treatments.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/
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Some antibody testing results from Miami-Dade:
miami.cbslocal.com
The early findings of SPARK-C, the Surveillance Program Assessing Risk and Knowledge of Coronavirus, a public-private partnership designed to determine the actual rate of COVID-19 exposure in the community found 6% of participants tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies, which equates to 165,000 Miami-Dade County residents.
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Researchers say they are “95% certain that the true amount of infection lies between 4.4% and 7.9% of the population, or between 123,000 and 221,000 residents. These results are similar but not identical to other recent, non-randomized testing programs that have been conducted throughout the United States.”
So it would seem that NYC clocks in with a ~21% infection rate, the state of New York minus NYC is less than 4%, Miami is sitting at approximately 6%, and LA County is a touch over 4% in a preliminary survey. Metro Detroit just started testing a few days ago and I haven't yet seen any published preliminary results.
While I haven't yet seen evidence that proves or disproves the validity of the small sample sets used in these surveys, we probably have a rough idea of where those areas are at in the game. Hopefully antibody testing happens soon in areas that have not yet experienced widespread impact.
Miami-Dade County's COVID-19 Screening Program 'Sheds New Light' On Infection Rates
The number of positive COVID-19 cases in Miami-Dade County appears to be much higher than is actually being reported, according to results of a preliminary study by Miami-Dade County and the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine.
miami.cbslocal.com The early findings of SPARK-C, the Surveillance Program Assessing Risk and Knowledge of Coronavirus, a public-private partnership designed to determine the actual rate of COVID-19 exposure in the community found 6% of participants tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies, which equates to 165,000 Miami-Dade County residents.
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Researchers say they are “95% certain that the true amount of infection lies between 4.4% and 7.9% of the population, or between 123,000 and 221,000 residents. These results are similar but not identical to other recent, non-randomized testing programs that have been conducted throughout the United States.”
So it would seem that NYC clocks in with a ~21% infection rate, the state of New York minus NYC is less than 4%, Miami is sitting at approximately 6%, and LA County is a touch over 4% in a preliminary survey. Metro Detroit just started testing a few days ago and I haven't yet seen any published preliminary results.
While I haven't yet seen evidence that proves or disproves the validity of the small sample sets used in these surveys, we probably have a rough idea of where those areas are at in the game. Hopefully antibody testing happens soon in areas that have not yet experienced widespread impact.
Same thing has been said here for a over a month. No study requir. It doesn’t take a PhD to understand a virus can’t be contained like the media wanted people to believe. Dumbasses ate it up. Every day new information is released, it makes many here look like geniuses and many others look like fools. No time for I told you so’s. We need to all get on the same page and the same team already and make the mother fuckers that did this pay. The enemy is here and abroad.Some antibody testing results from Miami-Dade:
Miami-Dade County's COVID-19 Screening Program 'Sheds New Light' On Infection Rates
The number of positive COVID-19 cases in Miami-Dade County appears to be much higher than is actually being reported, according to results of a preliminary study by Miami-Dade County and the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine.
The early findings of SPARK-C, the Surveillance Program Assessing Risk and Knowledge of Coronavirus, a public-private partnership designed to determine the actual rate of COVID-19 exposure in the community found 6% of participants tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies, which equates to 165,000 Miami-Dade County residents.
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Researchers say they are “95% certain that the true amount of infection lies between 4.4% and 7.9% of the population, or between 123,000 and 221,000 residents. These results are similar but not identical to other recent, non-randomized testing programs that have been conducted throughout the United States.”
So it would seem that NYC clocks in with a ~21% infection rate, the state of New York minus NYC is less than 4%, Miami is sitting at approximately 6%, and LA County is a touch over 4% in a preliminary survey. Metro Detroit just started testing a few days ago and I haven't yet seen any published preliminary results.
While I haven't yet seen evidence that proves or disproves the validity of the small sample sets used in these surveys, we probably have a rough idea of where those areas are at in the game. Hopefully antibody testing happens soon in areas that have not yet experienced widespread impact.
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It looks like the people who though everyone had already been exposed or lot of people had it months ago were wrong with those results.
Stupidity can be more contagious than any disease.
Well, if 6% of the population tests positive, that suggests 94% hasn't yet been exposed. Spreading linearly (which isn't quite the case), we're a long ways from the end; in football terms, we're about 3:30 into the first quarter. Seems a bit premature to declare victory, even if we're up 3-0.
Assuming exponential growth (which also is not the case), 6% exposure would suggest about 24 doubling periods have passed, and we've got perhaps another 4-5 to go. That would suggest that we're almost 80% to the end in terms of time despite having infected only 5% if the population. Exponential growth always saves the best for last.
Either way, take whatever death toll believes to be accurate to date, multiply by 10-12x, and that's approximately where things might settle once this runs its course if an effective intervention is not developed.
The accuracy of the sampling is going to be a factor in the short term. One can argue (fairly) that the people who are out and about in public are more likely to have been exposed, and thus the extrapolation of overall exposure is over-estimated. One can also argue (fairly) that people who are out and about in public are more likely to be healthy, and thus the extrapolation is under-estimated. Tricky stuff, especially for people who have an agenda and lack basic math skills.
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Don’t know the author’s creds
coronavirustruths.godaddysites.com
Coronavirus Truths
coronavirustruths.godaddysites.com Yeah. If that's what you are getting from the "new" old info, you didn't learn much yet.
How are you determining some of us didn't have it months ago?
Some of you folks just...damn.
Don’t know the author’s creds
Coronavirus Truths
David A Williams may be Communist sympathizer.
I think finding infection rates of 4-6% in a lot of big cities, makes it likely we are not win our second wave as I had hoped. The worst hit city and the biggest example of bad things happening is NYC. They estimated from testing that 21% has had it.
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