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At Least 36 Intelligent Alien Civilizations

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    More and more they are conditioning us to accept the fact, we are not alone.
    Well Ive always thought it was incredibly arrogant, and naive to think that in this insanely huge vast void of space we are the only intelligent beings around.
     
    Tinfoil hat on...

    So the coronavirus lockdown was a trial run to see if we could cope with being indoors for an extended period of time?
     
    Y'all need to read " A short history of nearly everything" by Bill Bryson. The odds are astronomical against that there is actually another intelligent civilization in our galaxy.
     
    Y'all need to read " A short history of nearly everything" by Bill Bryson. The odds are astronomical against that there is actually another intelligent civilization in our galaxy.

    Yes, the odds of another civilization in any particular region - solar system, galaxy, group, cluster, whatever - is astronomical. But since we're talking about astronomy, and there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,000,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe, even astronomical odds mean that the odds life exists somewhere is pretty damn good.
     
    Y'all need to read " A short history of nearly everything" by Bill Bryson. The odds are astronomical against that there is actually another intelligent civilization in our galaxy.
    Odds... astronomical... not "impossible". People are winning the lottery every week against those odds.

    Besides, who the F is Bill Bryson and why should I care?

    That said, I want my plasma rifle and I want it now.
     
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    Y'all need to read " A short history of nearly everything" by Bill Bryson. The odds are astronomical against that there is actually another intelligent civilization in our galaxy.
    I'm beginning the think the odds are astronomical against our civilization even being intelligent anymore. I'll take my chances with another civilization at this point!
     
    Knowing there are I don't know how many thousands (or more?) of galaxies, probability says there has to be something else out there.

    Probability also says that they won't be friendly.

    I still think the dumbest shit ever is those tards who are sending signals out into space basically letting anything out there know where we are.
     
    Knowing there are I don't know how many thousands (or more?) of galaxies, probability says there has to be something else out there.

    Probability also says that they won't be friendly.

    I still think the dumbest shit ever is those tards who are sending signals out into space basically letting anything out there know where we are.
    https://www.sciencealert.com/myster...-been-detected-coming-from-outside-our-galaxy

    Article is from 2016, but still compelling. My sources tell me the message is saying we’re poors for not adopting the G11.
     
    Astrobiological Copernican Limit.... sheesh.

    More egg head BS.
    It could also be just as possible ( and more likely to me personally ) That we are indeed the only life forms and the bible was actually correct all the time and God made all of the heavens merely for mans wonder until the day we meet our maker....
     
    I forget what it is called, but there is another school of thought that drastically reduces the odds of other life, let alone intelligent life in the universe.

    The premise boils down to how there is a “habitable zone” in the universe, but more like a “habitable time”. Anything past this point is decayed and anything before is too young. It is almost like the macrocosm of a habitable zone for a planet in a solar system but on a universal scale. Not only does it have to be in the right place with the perfect set of conditions, but the right TIME as well. More of a quality vs quantity type deal.

    But I honestly think it’s just a matter of time before we find something. I mean shit, how long we’re humans living unaware of other civilizations and societies just across the ocean from each other?

    But then again we could be dealing with other intelligent life and just have no means of comprehending it physically/mentally. Can an ant comprehend the world that exists beyond his colony?
     
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    Astrobiological Copernican Limit.... sheesh.

    More egg head BS.
    It could also be just as possible ( and more likely to me personally ) That we are indeed the only life forms and the bible was actually correct all the time and God made all of the heavens merely for mans wonder until the day we meet our maker....
    There it is....:eek:
     
    Much of this comes down to whether you’re a Christian — as in a true believer in Christ and the Biblical account of creation — or something (anything) else.
    As a Bible-believing “Creationist”, we know that “God” (a generic title/term, NOT a proper name) “created the earth not in vain, but to be inhabited.” By extension, that general principle applies to ALL of creation, so it’s obvious that, at some point in the relatively near future (on a “cosmic” time scale) the entire universe will teem with intelligent life. Not exclusively via evolutionary methods (though not to the exclusion of them either) but rather through the “seeding” of intelligent life on worlds throughout the cosmos that have been prepared in advance to support and sustain such life, just as it was done with the earth leading up to the creation of man (“Adam”).

    Just the Christian Scriptural view. YMMV.
     
    Did the program give hypotheses about how these other worlds have bypassed Fermi's Paradox?
     


    More and more they are conditioning us to accept the fact, we are not alone.
    Sounds like a bunch of hypothetical bullshit.

    It is somewhat sad that so many who engage in mere baseless conjecture are called scientists by adoring media acolytes. It seems that today the primary qualification for being a scientist it support for larger government, more grants rather than learning through the scientific process.
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    Covid is/are the aliens. They are already here taking over our bodies. They are intelligent because you can't see or stop them.
     
    Quick note: Fermi's Paradox isn't a scientific rule, only an observation based on early speculation (ie no data).

    I don't have access to the paper this article is based on, but in reading the abstract even the authors point out that this calculation makes many assumptions, and that has always been the crux of these types of predictions. When Frank Drake came up with the Drake Equation, we didn't even know what values to plug into many of the terms in that equation. Since then we've learned so much more about how solar systems form, and have discovered thousands of exoplanets that allow us to make semi-reasonable statistical statements.

    Ultimately, it's still too difficult to accurately predict the existence of exo-civilization because we're still basing too much on our single sample of one known civilization: us. We can predict how many planets probably orbit stars in their Habitable Zone, but that alone does not mean life (let alone intelligent life) will arise there. More importantly, even if only a tiny percentage of those billions of planets in our galaxy alone lead to intelligent life developing into civilizations, the time factor really messes any reasonable chance of co-existence with us.

    There's every reason to believe that civilizations (as a whole), when plotted along a Time axis, rise and fall. It could be a normal distribution with a very even gaussian (bell) curve, so while some would end abruptly for a number of reasons, all would start out small and grow, then eventually shrink and fade. And here's the trick with this case: you could have 36 civilizations arise in the Milky Way, but none of them probably exist at the same time, so their curves never overlap.

    And on top of that, our galaxy is about 100,000 light years in diameter. We're located out in the suburbs of the Orion Arm, and if another civilization was on the opposite side of the galaxy we'd likely never know. Even if both civilizations last for exceptionally long times, in the cosmic sense it's just a blink of an eye.

    So is it possible that there are 36 other alien civilizations in our galaxy right now? Yes, it's possible, but it's highly unlikely.
     
    Stop trying to throw logic into my Alien conspiracy threads...

    When they land in Central Park, you'll only look foolish :)

    Most of my life I've looked foolish more often than not, but the example you cite would not do so as your post is about intelligent aliens, and if they landed in NYC they might be aliens but you would be hard pressed to prove their intelligence. In that case hopefully they round up a few hundred leaders stop in Albany for a few hundred more then go home with them.
     
    Central Park? No respectable alien would ever enter that park. China, China is the only place to start the take over of the world.
     
    It would be a safe guess to assume that the aliens would not look like humans or at the very least their reproductive system wouldn't properly interface with ours.
     
    It would be a safe guess to assume that the aliens would not look like humans or at the very least their reproductive system wouldn't properly interface with ours.
    If it’s carbon based, we’ll come up with a workable solution.
     
    What was the last thing to move from ‘crypto-zoology’ to ‘zoology’? ‘Conspiracy theory’ to ‘fact’?
     


    More and more they are conditioning us to accept the fact, we are not alone.

    Unfortunately one of them, the intelligent ones, is not on earth.

    If they land in Central Park do you think theyll stay at the Hilton or the Omni?
     
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    Odds... astronomical... not "impossible". People are winning the lottery every week against those odds.

    Besides, who the F is Bill Bryson and why should I care?

    That said, I want my plasma rifle and I want it now.
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    fuck yeah!
     
    If it’s NOT carbon based, boy howdy, what’s our point of reference?!