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New ATF definition of firearm

Exactly! Those that shrug their shoulders and say, “Nothing I do is going to change it.” Are part of the problem. Looking at you, VooDoo the Vaccine and others...
I am planning to write my representative about this. I am not one to "do nothing" about it.

However, I know that pretty much no matter what I do, or say, it won't matter to them... They gonna do whatever the hell they want.







AND SO AM I.

I know that no matter what they do, or say, I still consider myself a FREE MAN, and so I will continue to act accordingly, until they day they see fit to come try, and put a stop to it.

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I am planning to write my representative about this. I am not one to "do nothing" about it.

However, I know that pretty much no matter what I do, or say, it won't matter to them... They gonna do whatever the hell they want.







AND SO AM I.

I know that no matter what they do, or say, I still consider myself a FREE MAN, and so I will continue to act accordingly, until they day they see fit to come try, and put a stop to it.

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This ATF stuff reminds me of little kids playing doctor or house.

They're not a legislative body and this proposed 'rule making' does not amend any legislation. Just like them banning bump stocks did not actually do anything other than change what the agency itself does.

Now, how much power that has is the fault of SCOTUS, because of Chevron.

The ATF can release this and it's got some teeth but really only those who are under their regulatory boot. (FFLs, basically)

They're essentially trying to assert new powers here and amend a few legally defined terms that they have absolutely no authority over. I hope they do it. I'm tired of the ATF constantly threatening us. It's time stop stop playing the inchworm game and just get to the end of this. Either the courts are going to completely upend the Constitution, at which point they themselves have no authority, or they're going to shut down these rogue agencies that think the Executive branch has been gifted the power of the Legislative from the Judicial.

I'm not writing, I'm not asking, I'm done talking. The left, over this past year, has shown exactly what delivers results.
 
Then speak up. Do not let this go uncontested!

That there's funny. Do you really believe any amount of negative comments will change these guidelines?

However, I want to know a few things. Since most lowers/frames and uppers/slides can be interchanged without much effort, how is this thing ever going to work?

How many duplicate serial numbers do you think there will be when everything gets it's own SN? There will be a SN 12345 on 100,000 components.
 
However, I want to know a few things. Since most lowers/frames and uppers/slides can be interchanged without much effort, how is this thing ever going to work?
It’s very simple really. As it stands right now, there’s no regulation saying that all serialized parts on a firearm must be matching.

As to the teeth of this rule, the teeth of it is really the FFLs themselves. They will make it happen to keep their businesses open and not face loss of license and a federal offense. That’s the beauty of it really. All ATF has to do is regulate FFLs and compliance will be enforced by the FFLs.

It’s already that way with private sales of firearms that have to be shipped. Each one has a record of the buyer that’s permanent and would never be used as a search database by any agency. Nod, nod, nudge, wink wink.
 
That there's funny. Do you really believe any amount of negative comments will change these guidelines?

However, I want to know a few things. Since most lowers/frames and uppers/slides can be interchanged without much effort, how is this thing ever going to work?

How many duplicate serial numbers do you think there will be when everything gets it's own SN? There will be a SN 12345 on 100,000 components.
It won’t ever really work. What about the millions already out there? Do they think everyone going to fall in and go get everything they already own serialized? 🤣 do they think gang bangers and cartels going to care about any of this? Come on. But yes writing seems to have halted the last few times they had some great (rolling eyes) ideas.

PS The writing is really more for my own need than theirs. That way I’ll no I’ve done everything I can when I’m no longer represented. I’ll be in good conscience.
It’s very simple really. As it stands right now, there’s no regulation saying that all serialized parts on a firearm must be matching.

As to the teeth of this rule, the teeth of it is really the FFLs themselves. They will make it happen to keep their businesses open and not face loss of license and a federal offense. That’s the beauty of it really. All ATF has to do is regulate FFLs and compliance will be enforced by the FFLs.

It’s already that way with private sales of firearms that have to be shipped. Each one has a record of the buyer that’s permanent and would never be used as a search database by any agency. Nod, nod, nudge, wink wink.
Sadly.
 
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writing works. I highly encourage everyone to write in about this when the comments on it are open. I tried earlier and it is not available for comment yet. Probably the reason they dropped it on a friday so it would take a bit to get on the register and open for comments.
 
That there's funny. Do you really believe any amount of negative comments will change these guidelines?

However, I want to know a few things. Since most lowers/frames and uppers/slides can be interchanged without much effort, how is this thing ever going to work?

How many duplicate serial numbers do you think there will be when everything gets it's own SN? There will be a SN 12345 on 100,000 components.
This is the question I have to ask. My wife was a 911 Disp. Super., she use to run Ser.#'s on lost/stolen/used in a crime, firearms. When she would run a particular #, she would get up to 10-15 hits, and they would all be for different types of firearms, I.E. rifles, handguns, shotguns, all different calibers, manufacturers and any variation of such firearms.
It would have to be one hell-of-a data base. But, what do I know? Mac
 
writing works. I highly encourage everyone to write in about this when the comments on it are open. I tried earlier and it is not available for comment yet. Probably the reason they dropped it on a friday so it would take a bit to get on the register and open for comments.
Comment period is open
 
If you have successfully made a comment could you post the link. All the links I have tried have taken me to the federal register and the proposed rule does not appear in the register search function.
 
Meh, not worth my time. Won’t comply with this bullshit on firearms I already allegedly own. As for new guns, well Glock has been putting serial numbers on lowers and slides for many years now and I must have missed the thread bitching about that. Save the argument about govt compulsion, since I will not comply I don’t give a fuck. It really is that easy.
 
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If you have successfully made a comment could you post the link. All the links I have tried have taken me to the federal register and the proposed rule does not appear in the register search function.
I have not yet but it says the comment portal will not be available online until it’s published in the federal registrar even though the comment period begins the minute the AG signs it. Best guess, Monday.
 
Here you go Son:
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From the ATF’s summary . . .

Under the proposed rule, a “frame or receiver” is any externally visible housing or holding structure for one or more fire control components. A “fire control component” is one necessary for the firearm to initiate, complete, or continue the firing sequence, including, but not limited to, any of the following: hammer, bolt, bolt carrier, breechblock, cylinder, trigger mechanism, firing pin, striker, or slide rails.

Any firearm part falling within the new definition
that is identified with a serial number must be presumed, absent an official determination by ATF or other reliable evidence to the contrary, to be a frame or receiver.


Tell me exactly how an AR upper does NOT fit the above description. Here, I’ll repeat this line in case you missed it the first time:
“but not limited to, any of the following: hammer, bolt, bolt carrier, breechblock, cylinder, trigger mechanism, firing pin, striker, or slide rails.”

By my count, at least six, if not seven of the above items are contained in the upper receiver.

In the DOJ summary statement:

To help law enforcement trace guns used in a crime, the rule would require that manufacturers include a serial number on the firearm “frame or receiver”

Now consider which agency will be loosely interpreting these new rules. Do you really believe that Obiden appointed his favorite gun grabber to oversee the ATF and do nothing?

Just because you didn’t bold it doesn’t mean it isn’t part of the definition. None of the uppers I have are serialized, so they don’t fit that definition. As was pointed out to you before, they said their “intention” is not to reclassify which part of the weapon is considered a firearm, and they specifically list the AR-15 as one that they don’t intend to change the classification of.

If you want to argue that the government, specifically the ATF, can’t be trusted then fine (and I’d agree), but what’s in that document doesn’t make an upper a firearm.
 
Just because you didn’t bold it doesn’t mean it isn’t part of the definition. None of the uppers I have are serialized, so they don’t fit that definition. As was pointed out to you before, they said their “intention” is not to reclassify which part of the weapon is considered a firearm, and they specifically list the AR-15 as one that they don’t intend to change the classification of.

If you want to argue that the government, specifically the ATF, can’t be trusted then fine (and I’d agree), but what’s in that document doesn’t make an upper a firearm.
Lol, “intention”. Like any government agency anywhere ever gave a crap about intention when the political winds blew. Take a good long look back at the history of gun control and how it is implemented. Nobody nowhere no how ever ‘intended’ for it to restrict anyone’s rights. That has worked wonderfully don’t you think?

You all took my words too literally and fail to see reality when it’s placed there in front of you. I am able to read through this and see it for what it is, not for what it isn’t. Not because I’m somehow more able, but simply because I’m applying past tactics, that have worked wonders for the gun grabbers, to current situations.

The fact is that this language opens up the door for further restrictions, no matter how much you think otherwise. This type of language is not placed there innocuously or without reason. Boil that frog slowly, so that your opponents always think it all glorious, until it isn’t.

Alphabet much?
 
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Lol, “intention”. Like any government agency anywhere ever gave a crap about intention when the political winds blew. Take a good long look back at the history of gun control and how it is implemented. Nobody nowhere no how ever ‘intended’ for it to restrict anyone’s rights. That has worked wonderfully don’t you think?

You all took my words too literally and fail to see reality when it’s placed there in front of you. I am able to read through this and see it for what it is, not for what it isn’t. Not because I’m somehow more able, but simply because I’m applying past tactics, that have worked wonders for the gun grabbers, to current situations.

The fact is that this language opens up the door for further restrictions, no matter how much you think otherwise. This type of language is not placed there innocuously or without reason. Boil that frog slowly, so that your opponents always think it all glorious, until it isn’t.

Alphabet much?
REGISTRY
 
Lol, “intention”. Like any government agency anywhere ever gave a crap about intention when the political winds blew. Take a good long look back at the history of gun control and how it is implemented. Nobody nowhere no how ever ‘intended’ for it to restrict anyone’s rights. That has worked wonderfully don’t you think?

You all took my words too literally and fail to see reality when it’s placed there in front of you. I am able to read through this and see it for what it is, not for what it isn’t. Not because I’m somehow more able, but simply because I’m applying past tactics, that have worked wonders for the gun grabbers, to current situations.

The fact is that this language opens up the door for further restrictions, no matter how much you think otherwise. This type of language is not placed there innocuously or without reason. Boil that frog slowly, so that your opponents always think it all glorious, until it isn’t.

Alphabet much?

You were pointing to language in the proposed definition to say that uppers would be firearms. That’s not the case. If you want to turn the argument into a conspiracy theory where you claim to have the heightened intelligence to predict the future, then fine.
 
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You were pointing to language in the proposed definition to say that uppers would be firearms. That’s not the case. If you want to turn the argument into a conspiracy theory where you claim to have the heightened intelligence to predict the future, then fine.
So currently only the lower has to be serialized because that is considered the firearm. Under this new rule, the bolt carrier is part of the firing mechanism and is contained in the upper and because of this the upper now has to be serialized and is considered a firearm. It’s really that simple. No conspiracy.
 
So currently only the lower has to be serialized because that is considered the firearm. Under this new rule, the bolt carrier is part of the firing mechanism and is contained in the upper and because of this the upper now has to be serialized and is considered a firearm. It’s really that simple. No conspiracy.

Keep reading.
 
Keep reading.
Oh I’ve read it and I know what your getting at and it doesn’t matter as long as we aren’t dealing with NFA items. But this will make the upper of an SBR need a separate tax stamp as well as the lower if current practice continues. can’t put a short barrel on a frame or receiver that isn’t registered as an SBR.

the Greater rub is that they are changing a definition which is codified in law not regulation. Only congress can do that. That alone should terminate this shitpile. They want to change, they need to put it on the floor of Congress.
 
I’ll have to catch up on this later, but I do have a question.
If I have to serial number any of my guns will the SSNs of say ATF-FAQ, and ATF-FAQ2 suffice for proper ID numbers?

Asking for a friend.
 
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Arbitrary, politically motivated and capricious. This does not affect me as I departed the classification of gun owner within the past week. It was the illness which convinced me that my need for firearms was outweighed by my physical inabilities to operate them to their best capacity. I turn 75 next week and will be hanging up that particular pair of spurs.

This does not, in any way, diminish my commitment and support of the 2nd Amendment, and those like minded patriots who see this enumerated liberty as graven in stone, immutable, and a necessary implement belonging to the people alone and in perpetuity. Its primary purpose is to serve as a check against government overreach and desertion of the constitution.

The ATF has become a weaponized arm of our constitution's most flagrant and deliberate enemies. It is the deliberate American version of the Soviet Cheka.

Resist. The most ludicrous part of this situation is that the ATF may be official and well funded, but they still purvey the image of the Keystone Cops.
 
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Oh I’ve read it and I know what your getting at and it doesn’t matter as long as we aren’t dealing with NFA items. But this will make the upper of an SBR need a separate tax stamp as well as the lower if current practice continues. can’t put a short barrel on a frame or receiver that isn’t registered as an SBR.

the Greater rub is that they are changing a definition which is codified in law not regulation. Only congress can do that. That alone should terminate this shitpile. They want to change, they need to put it on the floor of Congress.

Paragraph 2, I completely agree.

I’m still not seeing anything that changes the classification of the upper receiver of an AR, NFA or otherwise though. My reading of the split/modular receiver section makes it seem pretty clear that one firearm is one firearm, not many firearms.
 
Paragraph 2, I completely agree.

I’m still not seeing anything that changes the classification of the upper receiver of an AR, NFA or otherwise though. My reading of the split/modular receiver section makes it seem pretty clear that one firearm is one firearm, not many firearms.
Under this NPRM, an upper receiver could easily fall under this “Therefore, to reflect existing case law, this proposed rule would add a sentence at the end necessary to complete a functional weapon within a short period of time. Some of them include jigs, templates, instructions, drill bits, and tools that allow the purchaser to complete the weapon to a functional state with minimal effort, expertise, or equipment. Weapon parts kits such as these are “firearms” under the GCA because they are designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive.43 Manufacturers of such parts kits must be licensed, abide by the marking and recordkeeping requirements, and pay Federal Firearms Excise Tax on their sales price.”

now while this implies they are speaking of “ghost guns” you can’t deny due to its intentional vagueness that it couldn’t be used against anything. requiring the serialization of upper receivers will affect the NFA. It has to. Each tax stamp is tied to a specific serial number on a specific receiver. So the question remains, do both parts of the receiver require separate stamps or not? What if you put an SBR upper on on a non SBR lower? its an open door to the latest and greatest whim of whatever tyrant is in control. All under the guise of public safety, national security and its for the children.
 
Under this NPRM, an upper receiver could easily fall under this “Therefore, to reflect existing case law, this proposed rule would add a sentence at the end necessary to complete a functional weapon within a short period of time. Some of them include jigs, templates, instructions, drill bits, and tools that allow the purchaser to complete the weapon to a functional state with minimal effort, expertise, or equipment. Weapon parts kits such as these are “firearms” under the GCA because they are designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive.43 Manufacturers of such parts kits must be licensed, abide by the marking and recordkeeping requirements, and pay Federal Firearms Excise Tax on their sales price.”

now while this implies they are speaking of “ghost guns” you can’t deny due to its intentional vagueness that it couldn’t be used against anything. requiring the serialization of upper receivers will affect the NFA. It has to. Each tax stamp is tied to a specific serial number on a specific receiver. So the question remains, do both parts of the receiver require separate stamps or not? What if you put an SBR upper on on a non SBR lower? its an open door to the latest and greatest whim of whatever tyrant is in control. All under the guise of public safety, national security and its for the children.

I can deny it because it’s a huge leap that isn’t supported by anything but your assumption and is contradicted in the split receiver section. Again, if we’re going to get into conspiracy theories and predictions of the the future, then fine, but there’s nothing in this current rule that changes the classification of an upper receiver.

While we’re on the topic of predicting the future, I do think the language needs to be firmed up and changed as it relates to their “intention” to not change the classification. Everything the gov does has unintended consequences, so the current language doesn’t give me much comfort. I think they need to specifically state that X component on Y weapon is the “firearm” and no interpretation of this rule will change that classification. If they were to suddenly declare the upper as the firearm, then I agree the NFA implications would be especially painful. Also, the legacy AR lowers would still be considered firearms because they are serialized and otherwise meet the definition, so you would wind up with this odd situation where one firearm was two firearms.
 
the Greater rub is that they are changing a definition which is codified in law not regulation. Only congress can do that. That alone should terminate this shitpile. They want to change, they need to put it on the floor of Congress.
Congress has been delegating it's power and responsibilities to unelected govt officials for generations. It's one of the (many) reasons our government has become as bloated and corrupt as it has - the people's vote has been diluted.
 
Does it really matter what the ATF does? They are not there to create laws. thats congress's job. Its the ATF job to enforce existing laws. Not try and help Congress and the Gov't disarm its citizens. I'm sure Joe Biden has asked for assistance from his new man in charge over there. So while the ATF tries to get creative, it really doesn't matter until the laws change. Am i wrong?
as for the serialized upper and lowers...... i think KAC has been doing this for awhile now. I kinda like it as i feel i have high probability I am getting a factory made weapon not a rifle cobbled together. other than that, dillhole is right. they can weaponize this against us in a number of ways not even thought of yet. So again, the answer is and always should be NO.
 
Oh I’ve read it and I know what your getting at and it doesn’t matter as long as we aren’t dealing with NFA items. But this will make the upper of an SBR need a separate tax stamp as well as the lower if current practice continues. can’t put a short barrel on a frame or receiver that isn’t registered as an SBR.

the Greater rub is that they are changing a definition which is codified in law not regulation. Only congress can do that. That alone should terminate this shitpile. They want to change, they need to put it on the floor of Congress.
Even if they sent it to congress today it would probably pass given the current state of things. Frankly I’ve gotten to where I really don’t care what they decide to do. The 2A is the supreme law of the land and until its amended its pretty freaking clear. So I don’t care. Most people have what they need already and only a fool would comply with such nonsense even if they did make the interpretation. If you comply with this you might add well move to Australia or go ahead and turn it all in.
 
I can deny it because it’s a huge leap that isn’t supported by anything but your assumption and is contradicted in the split receiver section. Again, if we’re going to get into conspiracy theories and predictions of the the future, then fine, but there’s nothing in this current rule that changes the classification of an upper receiver.

While we’re on the topic of predicting the future, I do think the language needs to be firmed up and changed as it relates to their “intention” to not change the classification. Everything the gov does has unintended consequences, so the current language doesn’t give me much comfort. I think they need to specifically state that X component on Y weapon is the “firearm” and no interpretation of this rule will change that classification. If they were to suddenly declare the upper as the firearm, then I agree the NFA implications would be especially painful. Also, the legacy AR lowers would still be considered firearms because they are serialized and otherwise meet the definition, so you would wind up with this odd situation where one firearm was two firearms.
I’m not trying to be conspiratorial. The NPRM says they are purposely leaving it vague so as technology or definitions change they don’t have to keep asking for comments to reevaluate what is what. I think their intent is pretty clear.
 
Even if they sent it to congress today it would probably pass given the current state of things. Frankly I’ve gotten to where I really don’t care what they decide to do. The 2A is the supreme law of the land and until its amended its pretty freaking clear. So I don’t care. Most people have what they need already and only a fool would comply with such nonsense even if they did make the interpretation. If you comply with this you might add well move to Australia or go ahead and turn it all in.
You and I don’t have to comply with anything. As someone stated earlier, this will be enforced and complied with by manufacturers and resellers With the fear of losing their FFL or SOT as the bait.
and like I said earlier. Radio fucking silence from them.
 
writing works. I highly encourage everyone to write in about this when the comments on it are open. I tried earlier and it is not available for comment yet. Probably the reason they dropped it on a friday so it would take a bit to get on the register and open for comments.
Public comments have worked in the past to stop or change the rule making process. Will they this time? I don't know. They do have to be overwhelming enough to get legislators attention, though. I will make one.
 
Then speak up. Do not let this go uncontested!

That there's funny. Do you really believe any amount of negative comments will change these guidelines?

However, I want to know a few things. Since most lowers/frames and uppers/slides can be interchanged without much effort, how is this thing ever going to work?

How many duplicate serial numbers do you think there will be when everything gets it's own SN? There will be a SN 12345 on 100,000 components.
It wouldn't be the first time in recent history we've put them on their heels. Silence is consent, disobey the unlawful shit they peddle fine, but say nothing and they will continue to do as they please without fear. As long as we stand as one they will fall over backwards.
 
It wouldn't be the first time in recent history we've put them on their heels. Silence is consent, disobey the unlawful shit they peddle fine, but say nothing and they will continue to do as they please without fear. As long as we stand as one they will fall over backwards.
Phone calls and emails are the same as doing nothing. Would you give an example of our side putting anyone in govt on their heels?

To put any govt entity on its heels, our side must stop blindly backing the blue. We can only back those that leave us the fuck alone while we’re working on the problem. Whoever gets in the way should be considered the problem as well. If we can convince people of this then we have a shot. Start talking and persuading.
 
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I can deny it because it’s a huge leap that isn’t supported by anything but your assumption and is contradicted in the split receiver section. Again, if we’re going to get into conspiracy theories and predictions of the the future, then fine, but there’s nothing in this current rule that changes the classification of an upper receiver.

While we’re on the topic of predicting the future, I do think the language needs to be firmed up and changed as it relates to their “intention” to not change the classification. Everything the gov does has unintended consequences, so the current language doesn’t give me much comfort. I think they need to specifically state that X component on Y weapon is the “firearm” and no interpretation of this rule will change that classification. If they were to suddenly declare the upper as the firearm, then I agree the NFA implications would be especially painful. Also, the legacy AR lowers would still be considered firearms because they are serialized and otherwise meet the definition, so you would wind up with this odd situation where one firearm was two firearms.
You keep throwing out the term conspiracy theory as if that’s supposed to shut people up from recognizing what’s really happening. Of course, that means you have to have accepted what has already been done as perfectly okay and blinded yourself to what these politicians have specifically stated they are going to do.

Is it a conspiracy theory if they’ve openly stated that’s what they are going to do and this fits their narrative as a small piece that can be done while they fight the legislative side of things.
 
They're going after 80% receivers. The next thing will probably be online ammo sales.
 
Phone calls and emails are the same as doing nothing. Would you give an example of our side putting anyone in govt on their heels?

To put any govt entity on its heels, our side must stop blindly backing the blue. We can only back those that leave us the fuck alone while we’re working on the problem. Whoever gets in the way should be considered the problem as well. If we can convince people of this then we have a shot. Start talking and persuading.
I both disagree, with your first statement, and agree, with your conclusion.

To say that phone calls and emails do nothing is naïve and limits the total responses who actually have time to go and see their representatives and spend the time getting personally involve. No entity, be it business personal or governmental gets things accomplished by a single line focus/approach.

There are those that are stretching their ways in order to call or email. To expect that they join the extremely small percentage of movers and be extroverts and open public servants is unrealistic. Everything matters! Anytime someone gets up off of their daily business to address an issue that matters enough to do so, is a good time and a good thing.
 
I both disagree, with your first statement, and agree, with your conclusion.

To say that phone calls and emails do nothing is naïve and limits the total responses who actually have time to go and see their representatives and spend the time getting personally involve. No entity, be it business personal or governmental gets things accomplished by a single line focus/approach.

There are those that are stretching their ways in order to call or email. To expect that they join the extremely small percentage of movers and be extroverts and open public servants is unrealistic. Everything matters! Anytime someone gets up off of their daily business to address an issue that matters enough to do so, is a good time and a good thing.
All my calls have been unanswered. All my emails have been either ignored or had some generic bullshit reply. You think our govt is salvageable. I don’t.
 
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You keep throwing out the term conspiracy theory as if that’s supposed to shut people up from recognizing what’s really happening. Of course, that means you have to have accepted what has already been done as perfectly okay and blinded yourself to what these politicians have specifically stated they are going to do.

Is it a conspiracy theory if they’ve openly stated that’s what they are going to do and this fits their narrative as a small piece that can be done while they fight the legislative side of things.

I know things have gotten more expensive, but I would still try to find some room in your budget for the tin foil.
 
Privately made firearms" (PMF) need to be marked within seven (7) days of manufacture. Transfer of the PMF back to the owner would not require a 4473, but would be logged in the licensee's records. This would appear to be the single most impactful outcome of the proposal.
Logged in the licensees records?
What does this mean?

Can I not take my privately built weapon to the trophy shop to be engraved like many have done with their SBRs with no logging.
 
How about stopping to be whiny, lazy bitches about what may supposedly not work and how systemically <insert your favorite trauma> the system is?
  • Comment on the ATF's NPRM as encouraged
  • Call/email your representatives and give them an ear full
  • Support your favorite gun rights groups​
  • while you prepare to survive the storm heading our way in any way you see fit​
As usual, our reaction to these attempts to diminish our rights and liberties should not be "either" - "or" but "all of the above"
 
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Claiming to end crime by eliminating “ghost guns” (their wording/their definition).

In the end, No common criminal is going to go to the trouble of purchasing a partially finished frame, acquire the tools to finish the frame, then acquire the tools and parts to assemble the firearm.

Gun control. Not about eliminating crime. Gun Control, Controlling the serfs to assure that they properly serve and worship the rulers. Control being the key word.
The problem with “ghost guns” as the govt sees it is not the thug on the street putting one together.

it’s the shady gun store or guy in his basement who puts together cheap weapons with no registration

then sells them to the thugs etc

We all know every law they pass is just closer and closer to registration. So they will just keep making less and less important parts need a #.

once everything has a number it’s registered from initial sale ...then they can stop you from loosing them in a boating accident because your still liable.

They are following the route of the IRS, if you own enough they take everything.

if you buried it in woods they put you in prison...and it’s all legal.
 
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