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Are you TOO prepared?

You're assuming I don't also have 4-5 guys I train 3x a week.
Who’s protecting their house when they are protecting your stash?

or the plan is to have a group of 15 people in one location, which will surely begin the attention of everyone in the area making the “invading” group even larger.
 
Add to that no matter how hard core you think you are

5 guys roll up with a thought out plan to take what’s yours and it’s you and your dog with 5,000 rounds and 30 p-mags …. it’s over.

the homeowner might take some with him but if these scenarios come true it will be 1-2 intruders in the beginning.

when scarcity and famine happen the groups will be much larger.

before that happens the federal government will send in the national guard and federalize all farm land /live stock.

a household with a AR out one window and a custom bolt 6.5 out the other with all the Ammo and freeze dried food you can buy isn’t stopping a Stryker with a squad.
Things that go boom for a 1000 alex.....

Doc
 
I understand what you guys are saying. But your still dead

Force on force 3-4 guys in a concealment position (a house is not cover bullets go right through) on a force 3x or more…it’s over.
If shit was this bad, I would have abandoned my house awhile ago.....

Doc
 
You already bragged about the amount of Social Security money was more than you put in.

you are a fucking parasite.
Well, actually it wasnt a brag, just a notation that until they fucked it up, it was working .

But:

Youre right. Now I want 200K and a couple pigeons.

And a case of Pappy's.

And a Porsche 959.

And a stable of hookers.

And a big bag of blow.

And
 
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Add to that no matter how hard core you think you are

5 guys roll up with a thought out plan to take what’s yours and it’s you and your dog with 5,000 rounds and 30 p-mags …. it’s over.

the homeowner might take some with him but if these scenarios come true it will be 1-2 intruders in the beginning.

when scarcity and famine happen the groups will be much larger.

before that happens the federal government will send in the national guard and federalize all farm land /live stock.

a household with a AR out one window and a custom bolt 6.5 out the other with all the Ammo and freeze dried food you can buy isn’t stopping a Stryker with a squad.
So what the fuck, do you want ot live forever. We're all going to die, the sweet part is making them pay the highest price possible.

One at each door...

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And a couple or these for your last stand.

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Build a "Tribe" now. People you can trust, Family, long time friends and people who have skills.
Medical person, EMT, Nurse etc.
Mechanic, fix it person.
Good gardener. Not someone who just bought seeds and packed them away.
Some pipe hitters ex .mil 11B etc.
Have a place to rally at with your family. A place where everyone can go when SHTF. A primary have a bugout location as well.

Food is cheap now, stack it to the ceiling.
Radios, batteries, way to recharge electrical devices. Solar.
Weapons. Ammo. Spares. Have BBQs with your Tribe and everyone practice shooting.
Temp shelter. Water purification.
List goes one...

Remember 2 things that will get you after the TEOTWAWKI Starvation and People behaving badly.
 
Build a "Tribe" now. People you can trust, Family, long time friends and people who have skills.
Medical person, EMT, Nurse etc.
Mechanic, fix it person.
Good gardener. Not someone who just bought seeds and packed them away.
Some pipe hitters ex .mil 11B etc.
Have a place to rally at with your family. A place where everyone can go when SHTF. A primary have a bugout location as well.

Food is cheap now, stack it to the ceiling.
Radios, batteries, way to recharge electrical devices. Solar.
Weapons. Ammo. Spares. Have BBQs with your Tribe and everyone practice shooting.
Temp shelter. Water purification.
List goes one...

Remember 2 things that will get you after the TEOTWAWKI Starvation and People behaving badly.
Everyone talking about preparedness, schwacking people, food stacking, electrical power,, etc in this thread should read this series of books. At least the first 3-4 books. There's 10 in total.
 

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Everyone talking about preparedness, schwacking people, food stacking, electrical power,, etc in this thread should read this series of books. At least the first 3-4 books. There's 10 in total.

Started reading the first. Entertaining I guess. The writer doesn't know shit about guns though. He has used a few but is no professional. That becomes pretty painfully obvious.
 
i would like to say I'm prepared. but how prepared will we need to actually be will never be known i'm sure. i have a "plan" but pray i never have to use it. i would gather as much "necessities" as possible and haul ass to my best friends farm. i would strap the wife and kids and go jason statham on their asses until my life got snatched.
 
Add to that no matter how hard core you think you are

5 guys roll up with a thought out plan to take what’s yours and it’s you and your dog with 5,000 rounds and 30 p-mags …. it’s over.

the homeowner might take some with him but if these scenarios come true it will be 1-2 intruders in the beginning.

when scarcity and famine happen the groups will be much larger.

before that happens the federal government will send in the national guard and federalize all farm land /live stock.

a household with a AR out one window and a custom bolt 6.5 out the other with all the Ammo and freeze dried food you can buy isn’t stopping a Stryker with a squad.
My money would be on @TheGerman
 
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Who is protecting the gov men's houses and families while they're away violating rights?
they came to your house...you arent looking for theirs

this is not a rise up against up the government thread (there are more than enough of those with guys who dont do shit about it but talk), this is a SHTF which turned into a "protection" thread.

back to the premise, they roll up...you and your friends are done plain and simple

we arent talking about the ATF coming in and shooting your dog, this is a federalization of taking over farmland/livestock if a true disaster. and the owners of that land thinking they can fend them off with a few AR's and a few friends from around the block who shoot 1/2 moa all day.

as much as the regular mil/LE guy may not want to enforce property seizure of a citizen

when it comes to his home town starving and the farmer down the road who was his friend for years having chickens and not sharing....dead farmer
 
I guess some would rather die on their feet that live in chains on their knees.
self-respect has nothing to do with effectiveness of civilians against armor, especially in a non urban area
 
when it comes to his home town starving and the farmer down the road who was his friend for years having chickens and not sharing....dead farmer

That is what soviets did. Stalin would have anyone that got in his way, including farmers, executed.

People in the big cities loved Stalin because he forced the farmers on the collectives to feed them.

Regarding “plans;” I think a boxer once said that, “Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.”

Planning is good but it is essential to have the correct plan for the correct scenario, which I don’t think anyone of us could accurately predict.

IMHO a lot of us overlook the concept of hiding in plain sight.
 
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this is a federalization of taking over farmland/livestock if a true disaster. and the owners of that land thinking they can fend them off with a few AR's and a few friends from around the block who shoot 1/2 moa all day.

I guess you know everyone/everything
 
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I ran across this video this morning. I’ve always laughed at the fat guy who said that he’d head for the hills when the SHTF.

As this gentleman points out, very rarely can the best of us survive long term without serious ramifications and consequences.

IMHO I think preparing for long term survival should be a collective effort among like minded people with an eclectic set of skill sets.

What is puzzling to me is the vast array of social media groups of preppers that want to hide from the government’s prying eyes. Yet they put themselves on social media for all to see.

Watch the video. He presents some thought provoking information.

 
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we arent talking about the ATF coming in and shooting your dog, this is a federalization of taking over farmland/livestock if a true disaster. and the owners of that land thinking they can fend them off with a few AR's and a few friends from around the block who shoot 1/2 moa all day.

as much as the regular mil/LE guy may not want to enforce property seizure of a citizen

when it comes to his home town starving and the farmer down the road who was his friend for years having chickens and not sharing....dead farmer
Lol

you think the goat fuckers was a bad time

Start pulling that shot in America

Better have anyone related to one of those thieving murderers on a mil base

not to mention all the fun stuff white people will come up with
 
Considering that literally, no one 'bugged out' or go to use that ammo stash of his in anger in last 100 years or so in US , what makes folks think that they should be 'prepping' for 'bugging out, whatever they mean by that term.

Literally just about the only 'preppers' that got anything useful from their prep were those building up their wealth,rest got to stand in lines playing hunger games for TP
 
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I ran across this video this morning. I’ve always laughed at the fat guy who said that he’d head for the hills when the SHTF.

As this gentleman points out, very rarely can the best of us survive long term without serious ramifications and consequences.

IMHO I think preparing for long term survival should be a collective effort among like minded people with an eclectic set of skill sets.

What is puzzling to me is the vast array of social media groups of preppers that want to hide from the government’s prying eyes. Yet they put themselves on social media for all to see.

Watch the video. He presents some thought provoking information.


Good watch. He didnt touch on the fact that there are very few 'lone wolves',, wolves tend to run in packs fro the very reason of survival. They dont tend to live very long in the wild. Worms and other ailments tend to get them. Break your leg in the wild and your chance of survival drop to zilch.
 
Nope, not too prepared! Awaiting my government assistance faithfully delivered every month ......provided I vote “demoncrap” in every election! 🤬 memtb
 
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Some of ya'll haven't read One Second After, and it shows...

“BINGO”! Many here definitively represent the reason many experts state, that in the event of a catastrophic event (EMP, massive Solar Flare, total economic collapse, ect.)..... approximately 70+% of the American population would die within the first 12 months! memtb
 
“BINGO”! Many here definitively represent the reason many experts state, that in the event of a catastrophic event (EMP, massive Solar Flare, total economic collapse, ect.)..... approximately 70+% of the American population would die within the first 12 months! memtb
They are soft. Third world countries already have those types of problems. Can you imagine the "Karen's" walking a mile or three to a water source and hauling the 5 gallon bucket. Once they realize that they lost their 3 thousand facefuck friends half would jump off of a tall building.
 
“BINGO”! Many here definitively represent the reason many experts state, that in the event of a catastrophic event (EMP, massive Solar Flare, total economic collapse, ect.)..... approximately 70+% of the American population would die within the first 12 months! memtb
For the most part, If you can make it through the first winter, you should be able to get by for a while.
 
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I am not worried about any of the government alphabet agencies....

They are not coming to confiscate, arrest, harass, or help anyone in a true SHTF situation. They will be in their own homes protecting their own families.

I’m gearing up to sustain life for persons in my clan - and repel the anarchists and opportunists who will certainly be looking for whatever they can find to keep themselves or their family alive.
 
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this is a federalization of taking over farmland/livestock if a true disaster. and the owners of that land thinking they can fend them off with a few AR's and a few friends from around the block who shoot 1/2 moa all day.

as much as the regular mil/LE guy may not want to enforce property seizure of a citizen

when it comes to his home town starving and the farmer down the road who was his friend for years having chickens and not sharing....dead farmer

Generally the above actions are the desperate last tries before starvation and collapse.

The soviet union would have collapsed from starvation and death much earlier if the west hadn't sold them food.
Had there been a full on trade embargo where nothing was allowed to be bought and sold, it would have been over much quicker.
North Korea for example has to some years literally give the soldiers time off to go try looting the countryside for food, and that's with still being able to buy a bit of food from other countries.

You steal all the farmer's land... sure... but you best have somebody that knows how to work it ready to go.
Military / Police decide to play goons, and go kill, steal and loot from the citizens, sure they will eat for now, then what?
You killed the farmer and their family and grabbed a bunch of on the hoof cattle, now what you going to do with them?
How long before most of what you killed for is spoiled because you can't process it, store it, preserve it, distribute it?

Very quickly you collapse into famine and starvation.
If you ever wonder why much of Africa is in perpetual famine and starvation, it's the above.
 
@brianf - i know you are a smart guy.

3-4 mildly trained guys with no ROE and a will to live greater than the thugs will win.

Just saying
they depend on the group force. They start dropping, the rest scatter….

And most have a decoy house picked out to draw them in.
easy to find another
few thugs (besides the taliban) have NV or thermal.

Give some paranoid hillbillies the credit they are due.
 
We could live off the pantry for a couple of months if we had too. Eggs and milk would be the first to go. Given the current state of the union and the level of hate and dishonesty of the average Democrat, it is probably a good idea to be able to support yourself at home for a while.

We do not need a big natural disaster to expose the violence of the average Democrat voter. If the power went out for a week, seven days, these animals would be attacking passers-by to steal their cars, clothes, food and whatever else they felt they deserved. They would be banging on your door to demand you feed or house them and threatening you if you did not. Democrats are the scum of the earth. Do you think the millions of foreign parasites who come here illegally are going to starve or freeze? Hell no, they will be at your door.

If you have a home on acreage, a generator, your own well, a wood stove for heat, extra fuel for cars and equipment, room for a garden and food in the pantry you better have a gun. The Democrats welfare state breeds parasites who are as worthless as a third nipple on their best day, they will expect to be fed, housed and clothed and they sure as hell do not plan on working for it.
And a few Rottweilers roaming the yard!
 
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@brianf - i know you are a smart guy.

3-4 mildly trained guys with no ROE and a will to live greater than the thugs will win.

Just saying
they depend on the group force. They start dropping, the rest scatter….

And most have a decoy house picked out to draw them in.
easy to find another
few thugs (besides the taliban) have NV or thermal.

Give some paranoid hillbillies the credit they are due.

i agree, but if there is true hardship/starvation setting in it a whole different ballgame.

"regular stuff" like a run on toilet paper lol you are 100% correct
 
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...man, y'all need to learn about Area Denial Techniques...

you dont need overwhelming firepower and a professions hit team if you can just make your shit enough of a pain in the ass to get to in the first place.

the VietCong were able to make life hell with some sharpened sticks....imagine what yall can do with a trip to Home Depot.
 
Started reading the first. Entertaining I guess. The writer doesn't know shit about guns though. He has used a few but is no professional. That becomes pretty painfully obvious.
Correct. Kinda fudd-ness. But gets the brain going from different angles.
 
Quality footwear and clothing items are as important as your foodstuffs. No loud colors, no swishing, no crinkling.

quality blankets and ways to stay warm.

Metal or wood cups, bowls, etc.
I get metal, but why wood over plastic?

Genuinely curious.
 
I get metal, but why wood over plastic?

Genuinely curious.
Plastic works. I guess I just forgot it. I prefer wooden dishes over plastic dishes. However, it needs to be heavy plastic. The important point is to have durable items to eat and drink out of, that can withstand travel and not being babied.

Nalgene bottles are something I keep around.
 
You know. I was with you on thar whole posts until this terrible analogy

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One for each hand and your mouth? Possibilities are endless

"There once was a woman who was quite begat.
She had three babies named Nat, Pat, and Tat.
She said it was fun in the breeding,
but found it was hell in the feeding
when she saw there was no tit for Tat."

 
There are many more dead Ukrainians from soldiers in BMP’s than Russians who died from throwing cocktails.

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...man, y'all need to learn about Area Denial Techniques...

you dont need overwhelming firepower and a professions hit team if you can just make your shit enough of a pain in the ass to get to in the first place.

the VietCong were able to make life hell with some sharpened sticks....imagine what yall can do with a trip to Home Depot.
Yeah man! Barbed wire tanglefoot and let the grass grow!

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You're assuming I don't also have 4-5 guys I train 3x a week.
I know how most people took this.... I pondered on the statement.. "Training" is a big umbrella. Training could be back country trauma first aid training, could be a Master Gardener class, short wave radio training, training on tearing down a Stihl chainsaw and getting it running again (chain sharpening), auto mechanics, lock smith training, carpentry.... "Training packs light and travels easily"...

“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
 
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