Just handled the 3.5-18 Kahles at EuroOptic.....very nice! Compared the S&B 5-20 Compact.....very nice. Looked out to 1000+yds through some fog/rain and both did great. Looking for a short optic for my LH Desert Tech Covert. I'm running the 16" 308 and 18" 338L....both suppressed. Their...