Same here except for a Nuke. Yes, just put it’s for a LH in the notes and they acknowledge it on the order confirmation.
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6.5 Creedmoor
Back in Black
Terminus Apollo
TT Special
Hawkins M5 DBM
18” Proof carbon at Bugholes for chambering
Thinking about a March 3-24 to top it but I may just say screw it and get a ZCO 4-20. Trying to keep it on the light side. So the ZCO may be out. Haven’t decided yet.
trying to find a lightweight scope with world class glass and all tactical features is not as easy it sounds. The ZCO 527 is only a few Oz more then the 420. I have the same dilemma and ill probably go 420 bc after using the 527's I don't think I can sacrifice glass quality after using those. Vortex has and LRH model that's very light weight but I have not looked though one.
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What velocity you getting in 18”
My hunting loads are super mild. 2,450-2,575 ish area. I loaded some real hot trying to make power factor for nrl hunter with a 130eldm and couldn’t get to 2,700 before they were way to hot. I don’t remember the details but wasn’t able to use this rifle for it. Rl15 was the fastest and most accurate but settled on h4350 for my hunting ammo. I do think this is kind of a slow barrel.
You could run factory ammo for NRL hunter correct?
Yes but I didn’t have any then or now. Couldn’t find it nor did I want to spend that much even if I could. Especially when I have a cabinet full of components. I ended up just using a different rifle but had to switch classes to the heavier rifle.
Yeah I get it. With price increases it makes a definite consideration
I actually put in a comment that they should change the power factor if your a sub 20” barrel. Seems kinda stupid when you can’t use a hunting rifle for a supposed hunting comp.
What height are those rings with the ZCO?
Got mine put together. 6.5 PRC, Bat machine igniter action, triggertech diamond, Hawkins M5 DBM, 24” 8 twist proof sendero barrel, silencertech single baffle can, spuhr hunter mount, NF nx8 4-32x50. Build weighs right at 12lbs as shown. My only complaint is I need another spacer for the cheek riser, a little low for my face.
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Super nice! Just put a redman in that cheek
Nice. Long or short action?
Short action.
Might have another PRS2 to sell. This would cut down 20oz or so on my 7SS build
I need three full length ARCA rails to fit my LRH stocks. Wish 419 would offer one compatible to the pre spaced holes in these stocks. Please build it, buyers will come!
Yep, saw that. I think the need is still building to fit these super popular Manners LRH stocks. I hope he will reconsider making them a regular catalog item.
Manners installed the hardware for an Area 419 universal 12" rail that I'm modifying to fit around the both metal.
Lots of rails currently being modified to fit around the front action bolt of the Manners LRH stocks. Just would be nice to have a drop on fit, holes line up, 12-14 inch arca rail option that is a direct bolt on and is anodized instead of touched up or cerakoted.
Hey guys, great thread! Let me see if I can help with some of the posts through the thread.
Chassis: the LRH is available with or without a M5 mini chassis. If you choose the chassis it essentially replaces pillars and bedding. It lets you choose your preferred M5 bottom metals. The Hawkins, APA, and OTM seem to be very popular choices. Simply drop in barreled action and bottom metal, torque down, commence to fire! The chassis is pretty light so when you compare a bedded rifle vs a chassis it is only a few single oz apart.
Weight: The stock alone will weigh in around 2lbs depending on your choices of hardware, buttpad, and options. We see most rifles with light actions (Evo Ti, Defiance AnTi, and others) along with the Bartlein M24 carbon barrels come out around 7lbs. If you get a normal action you’re looking at about 8 lbs. Steel barrels obviously vary a good bit so that will case by case.
Arca rail: it comes standard with the 3.5” Arca rail just ahead of the msg well. It wraps around the bottom metal in a step that is the same height therefore giving you a pretty flush transition from the bottom metal to the Arca rail. Since we released it we saw a demand for a full length version. We are done with the prototype and hope to get pricing and pics up here in a few weeks. It will be the same thing essentially as it wraps around but it will carry all the way to the end giving you a flush bottom from grip to tip! This will be an option for existing stocks as well. If you wanted one you wouldn’t need to modify much. Just pop the center hole, drop in weld nut, and you should be good to go!
Lead times: we introduced a new process to keep up with the demand of this model. The result has allowed up to build extras and put in the website when we can. Once we get through the prior orders we think a lot of people will be ordering ready to ship. Being a universal inlet design it will let guys choose short or long, left or right hand, and no other specs really effect the build. You choose chassis or not, what color, and your choice of bipod mount. This new process also leaves you with a very nice finished product. The molded in texture and colors come out very nice!
Universal inlet: one benefit of the universal inlet is it will let you use larger barrels which are becoming common with the carbon barrels. We’ve seen some 1.25” straights out in some. The m-24 contour carbons are very popular and still allow most any steel barrel to fit. If you needed to do any sanding to get a steel shank in it would be very easy. I don’t see anyone really needing to do that ever but it’s easy if you needed to.
Cheek pc: this is one of the really cool features of the stock. While the traditional KMW loggerhead is the good standard and all we use for cheek hardware the backcountry hunters wanted something a bit lighter. We took the style of mounting the CS used and made into a standard option. The entire thing is made up of a wrap around carbon shell giving you a ton of strength for an extremely light weight. We knew the adjustment would be the sacrifice but you save over a pound and should only need to take it off for cleaning. I’m able to pull all my bolts out without removing my cheek. This is an completely ambi cheek and uses spacers underneath that stack up to your desired height. If a customer wanted more that is no problem. Also, we have already done a quick adjust method that doesn’t add any weight and we hope to be able to release to production before much longer. Uses an Allen wrench to loosen and tighten and you slide up/down to your desired height!
I hope this helps, let me know if y’all have any questions.
I can usually be reached the easiest at:
[email protected]
As many of you know I’m an precision rifle enthusiastic as much as I am an employee so these these things are dear to my heart as well. I’ve personally built several rifles off these stocks and I think it has truly elevated my capabilities with a lighter rifle and keeps it a joy to carry. While I still use our other models a lot any of my hunting builds, field rifles, and NRL Hunter comp guns are built on these and I’m very happy with all the results from them. We want y’all to have the same satisfaction so if you see anything we can do to improve please let us know!
See you on the range!!
Chassis: the LRH is available with or without a M5 mini chassis. If you choose the chassis it essentially replaces pillars and bedding. It lets you choose your preferred M5 bottom metals. The Hawkins, APA, and OTM seem to be very popular choices. Simply drop in barreled action and bottom metal, torque down, commence to fire! The chassis is pretty light so when you compare a bedded rifle vs a chassis it is only a few single oz apart.
Weight: The stock alone will weigh in around 2lbs depending on your choices of hardware, buttpad, and options. We see most rifles with light actions (Evo Ti, Defiance AnTi, and others) along with the Bartlein M24 carbon barrels come out around 7lbs. If you get a normal action you’re looking at about 8 lbs. Steel barrels obviously vary a good bit so that will case by case.
Arca rail: it comes standard with the 3.5” Arca rail just ahead of the msg well. It wraps around the bottom metal in a step that is the same height therefore giving you a pretty flush transition from the bottom metal to the Arca rail. Since we released it we saw a demand for a full length version. We are done with the prototype and hope to get pricing and pics up here in a few weeks. It will be the same thing essentially as it wraps around but it will carry all the way to the end giving you a flush bottom from grip to tip! This will be an option for existing stocks as well. If you wanted one you wouldn’t need to modify much. Just pop the center hole, drop in weld nut, and you should be good to go!
Lead times: we introduced a new process to keep up with the demand of this model. The result has allowed up to build extras and put in the website when we can. Once we get through the prior orders we think a lot of people will be ordering ready to ship. Being a universal inlet design it will let guys choose short or long, left or right hand, and no other specs really effect the build. You choose chassis or not, what color, and your choice of bipod mount. This new process also leaves you with a very nice finished product. The molded in texture and colors come out very nice!
Universal inlet: one benefit of the universal inlet is it will let you use larger barrels which are becoming common with the carbon barrels. We’ve seen some 1.25” straights out in some. The m-24 contour carbons are very popular and still allow most any steel barrel to fit. If you needed to do any sanding to get a steel shank in it would be very easy. I don’t see anyone really needing to do that ever but it’s easy if you needed to.
Cheek pc: this is one of the really cool features of the stock. While the traditional KMW loggerhead is the good standard and all we use for cheek hardware the backcountry hunters wanted something a bit lighter. We took the style of mounting the CS used and made into a standard option. The entire thing is made up of a wrap around carbon shell giving you a ton of strength for an extremely light weight. We knew the adjustment would be the sacrifice but you save over a pound and should only need to take it off for cleaning. I’m able to pull all my bolts out without removing my cheek. This is an completely ambi cheek and uses spacers underneath that stack up to your desired height. If a customer wanted more that is no problem. Also, we have already done a quick adjust method that doesn’t add any weight and we hope to be able to release to production before much longer. Uses an Allen wrench to loosen and tighten and you slide up/down to your desired height!
I hope this helps, let me know if y’all have any questions.
I can usually be reached the easiest at:
[email protected]
As many of you know I’m an precision rifle enthusiastic as much as I am an employee so these these things are dear to my heart as well. I’ve personally built several rifles off these stocks and I think it has truly elevated my capabilities with a lighter rifle and keeps it a joy to carry. While I still use our other models a lot any of my hunting builds, field rifles, and NRL Hunter comp guns are built on these and I’m very happy with all the results from them. We want y’all to have the same satisfaction so if you see anything we can do to improve please let us know!
See you on the range!!
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Great info, thanks Robert. I love my LRH stock. I’ll be ordering the full length arca rail ASAP
Yessssssss. I’ll def be ordering three full length arca rails when avail. Thank you!!!!
Is the full length rail going to be like the stubby one and not wrap and the bottom metal on a long action, thus making the unsightly gap, or are you going to offer one for the long action that makes it look finished?
EDIT: I made one mistake but its not a big one (hope not at least) The new full length arca rail will need a center hole drilled but with the trench in the middle and a weld nut it should be just a simple hole drilled and weld nut dropped in. Sorry for the bad info. We have 30 coming out of coating here soon and will make some posts about it. Being I see a good bit of demand here I may can get the initial release to happen here for you guys and then the next batch be opened up to the rest of the world.
We have one of them here that we are cerekoting so we can get pics and info out for y'all!
We have one of them here that we are cerekoting so we can get pics and info out for y'all!
I think it's best that we only offer one. Keeping up with all the hardware for specific stuff causes longer wait times. The gap for longs is the downside to that. We didn't want to have to run different molds for both short and long actions. The full length rail will be the same as the short yet carry out to the end.
Hope this helps.
I'd be in for a full length arca rail also. Just bought another A419 to mill out again but would rather have one thats made to fit.
I would take one also
I have a couple going in for cerakote. Will be available in a few weeks.
Hey guys, I have the first full length arca rail for the LRH in hand and will start sharing stuff on it when I get back. Here at the PRS finale at the moment and the stock is waiting at the house!
The one I'll be showing is cerakoted but all production models will be anodized and black to match the finish!
Mounting hardware is 1/4x20 so it will be mounted very strong and should handle anything you throw at it. It did go against our original plans to use current bipod and short arca rail mounts but think this solid option is best. For all future models we plan on having provisions for easy mounting. If anyone wanted us to add the full length arca rail we are happy to do so. We also will be selling them if you would like to mount it yourself.
We hope to have more details on this product in the next week or so when we get the batch back from coating. We've seen a big demand for it and look forward to getting them out there! I'm pumped to use it for the NRL hunter matches next year! I think it will really help the modern day rifleman that wants more options on where to mount their bipod/tripod!
The one I'll be showing is cerakoted but all production models will be anodized and black to match the finish!
Mounting hardware is 1/4x20 so it will be mounted very strong and should handle anything you throw at it. It did go against our original plans to use current bipod and short arca rail mounts but think this solid option is best. For all future models we plan on having provisions for easy mounting. If anyone wanted us to add the full length arca rail we are happy to do so. We also will be selling them if you would like to mount it yourself.
We hope to have more details on this product in the next week or so when we get the batch back from coating. We've seen a big demand for it and look forward to getting them out there! I'm pumped to use it for the NRL hunter matches next year! I think it will really help the modern day rifleman that wants more options on where to mount their bipod/tripod!
Same here since I tried earlier this week lolI’d like to order mine now thanks,
What is weight on this?
Looks great….have a 223ai almost identical in a bravo right now and considering this stock and bottom metal.
Thanks
Took a couple pics of one of my Manners LRH stocks. Impact NBK sits in a Altus Saltwater colored LRH. Rig weighs 11lbs 4oz as you see it, with can on.
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How’s the weight? I’m looking to sale my 737r for an nbk to drop some weight on the hunting rig once i switch the prs2 out for the LRH
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