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Vegas was done by feds with belt feds

All I know is that it definitely was not what they said it was. There's some compelling evidence of Saudi prince/royal family involvement. I've heard bump stocks enough to know that wasn't just some bumpstocks with a dude. There may have been a bumpstock involved but that definitely wasn't the only gun
 
Fundamental question.

Under what circumstances would a person bring all those firearms into a suite in LV? With the risk of someone seeing or noticing?

Unless you would be assured it was low risk. He used a "service" elevator IIRC. But perhaps had other assurances or inside help?

If it were an arms deal, why not just 30 miles out of town on some desert road? If it were an assassination attempt on a Saudi royal (a popular theory), you'd think a more covert operation than wheeling those firearms into the suite? Plus the type of firearms, no supressors?...seems odd imo.

And yes, that is auto belt fed fire. Always thought it was....there are several acoustic analysis that shows multi-positions and multi-calibers where at-play.

The girlfriend, the security guard. All so strange.

Lastly, its very weird this man's life history wasn't plastered all over the media...?
 
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I wouldnt accept that as 'proof' but certainly an interesting similarity.
Hey bro, I know you are into acoustics...go look up some of the acoustic analysis...unless they been taken down.
 
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The glass wasn’t pulled. It was shot through.

This is me working on the ledge of an RSA building in Mobile, Right next to the moon pie they drop on new year. We pulled the glass pain so I could get out on the ledge. Two people with suction cups and pry bars removed the glass , 2 people for safety. Heavy yes, but it could be done by one, if you’re in to concrete work and bench more than 275...

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Get off the window pain shit.


100% agree it sounded belt feed!
 
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I have some friends that were in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and they both unequivocally agree no way in hell that was bumpfire from one rifle alone. I am a pretty experienced firearms guy I never served in a combat zone, but I thought from the very beginning it seemed not like they said.
 
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If it were a belt fed, did they find links all over the hotel room? Seems easy to prove one way or the other. Asking because I don't know. There are lots of strange coincidences around this event and no satisfactory conclusions.
No but I'd hazard to guess the room was a decoy.

What was with the static display of guns, the hapahazard placement of ammo, the long blue "breathing tube" and mask - guy could buy 17 or so ARs but not one decent gas mask?

Shit just doesnt add up.
 
Someone with belt Feds.....

Trump knows what happened yet our savior ain't saying.

I'm more inclined to think Saudis going desert warfare on our territory and American lives are worth less than Saudi donations.
Typical Biden voter.

I'm sure while the FBI was running the Russian dossier scam and sucking Clinton cock they took the time off of their war on America to brief Trump.

You are literally the definition of the word, idiot.
 
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The glass wasn’t pulled. It was shot through.

This is me working on the ledge of an RSA building in Mobile, Right next to the moon pie they drop on new year. We pulled the glass pain so I could get out on the ledge. Two people with suction cups and pry bars removed the glass , 2 people for safety. Heavy yes, but it could be done by one, if you’re in to concrete work and bench more than 275...

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Get off the window pain shit.


100% agree it sounded belt feed!
Supposedly smashed out with a hammer.......I think there is a picture out there of the hammer.

I may be wrong but I am thinking those windows are tough to shatter better have been a big hammer.
 
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Typical Biden voter.

I'm sure while the FBI was running the Russian dossier scam and sucking Clinton cock they took the time off of their war on America to brief Trump.

You are literally the definition of the word, idiot.
Trump was President.

While not using his power to force transparency for the biggest mass attack since 9/11 he was quick to make bump stocks illegal............

Let us hear your theory......
 
Typical Biden voter.

I'm sure while the FBI was running the Russian dossier scam and sucking Clinton cock they took the time off of their war on America to brief Trump.

You are literally the definition of the word, idiot.
Everybody that has a different opinion, must be a Biden voter, right? Can we just get back to "youre a douche, asshole, or whatever" insult. It just sounds dumb, and makes one look foolish, becuase we all know hes not a Biden voter. Find a new insult.
 
Everybody that has a different opinion, must be a Biden voter, right? Can we just get back to "youre a douche, asshole, or whatever" insult. It just sounds dumb, and makes one look foolish, becuase we all know hes not a Biden voter. Find a new insult.

I have no blind loyalty to Trump.

He got outplayed masterfully with force.

He is either inept or incompetent.

Should he hold office again he had better be as ruthless as the enemy.

The enemy is that ruthless I do not think he will hold office again.

It’s up to us. The enemy learns from its mistakes and does not repeat them…..

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Did they fear bump stocks that much that they had to kill a lot of people to force the POTUS to ban them. Or did they use the bump stock as a ruse to cover a larger plot. If you weren't in on it you'll never know what actually happened unless you still believe in governmental agencies telling you the truth.
 
Trump was President.

While not using his power to force transparency for the biggest mass attack since 9/11 he was quick to make bump stocks illegal............

Let us hear your theory......

Agree on Trump, transparency and the like.

I think bump stocks were just a victim of the circumstance tbh.
 
Trump was President.

While not using his power to force transparency for the biggest mass attack since 9/11 he was quick to make bump stocks illegal............

Let us hear your theory......
Agree on Trump, transparency and the like.

I think bump stocks were just a victim of the circumstance tbh.

I'm not really positing a theory but also realize that the NRA gave him the green light. Trump isn't a gun guy like us on this esteemed forum.

He's a businessman and politician before anything else and doesn't understand the gun issues like we do. I'm not giving him a pass but just stating an observation.

With that said, he's going to take (in his mind) the easiest path to a solution to a problem. That solution was to ban bump stocks. Again, let me emphasize this point. The NRA gave him the green light to do that.

Had country-club board of directors and the man with the best wardrobe of suits in the pro-gun world been doing their job and raising hell about any proposed ban, Trump would have pursued another course of action.

I cannot find the story now but at one time he wanted to ban the evil assault weapons but advised not to.

Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong but when he asked why he couldn't pursue a ban on the evil assault weapons the reply was, "because you will lose."

So in summary, the NRA can take a lot of the blame for the bump-stock ban.

If it were a belt fed, did they find links all over the hotel room? Seems easy to prove one way or the other. Asking because I don't know. There are lots of strange coincidences around this event and no satisfactory conclusions.

There probably wasn't any belt-fed MGs in the room. There are plenty of people and video evidence showing possible shooters and gunfire coming from other locations than Paddock's room.

As for the absence of spent brass and links that doesn't mean that there were no belt-fed MGs firing that night. The shooter(s) could have been using brass catchers.

 
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Of course this was conducted by or with the help of a three letter agency. There was more than one shooter, the guns used were not found in the room and the dead guy was not the shooter. At best that fellow was a fall guy that got suckered into being in the right place at the wrong time.

For the question regarding "did anyone find any links", is that a serious question? If the alleged shooter did not have a belt fed in his possession then there would not have been any links in the room. That also goes for brass that might have been linked. The people pulling the triggers would have cleaned up after themselves.
 
They had plenty of time to clean up the mess and stage the room to fit the storyline. Back when this happened I questioned why the lack of his life story. Within hours we knew the life history of the Boston brothers and their family. Within hours we knew the life story of the San Bernardino muzzies. Within hours we knew the life story of the gay bar muzzy shooter in Florida and a lot more. But this guy..... Nothing.
JFK comes to mind
 
Who knows what it really was about, but with how quickly ALL of the media and gov went zero comms on it, all the other stuff that didn’t add up, yeah there was some fuckery going on

Maybe some connected Saudi who wanted to slaughter some “infidels” for fun

Maybe someone the crown needed to not exist

Maybe a push to take some more of our rights

Who knows 🤷‍♂️

Also “the shooter” smelled to high heaven of a fall guy
 
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They said they found a dead accountant in a hotel room.
And that was the last thing the media or law enforcement said that was remotely believable……….
 
Lots of weird things about this one.

I believe an LV reporter that extensively covered this shooting was killed recently. Though apparently by a politician that he was reporting on.

But perhaps it's a Gary Webb situation...
 
If you are going to commit murder, why use a bumpstock? Why not just turn your shit on and quit playing games?

If you are going to commit murder of a BUNCH of people why not use a belt fed?
 
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Why would you break a glass window with a hammer that you're about to spray hundreds of rounds through? If you were going to fire one or two shots maybe, but seems kind of odd otherwise.
 
Why would you break a glass window with a hammer that you're about to spray hundreds of rounds through? If you were going to fire one or two shots maybe, but seems kind of odd otherwise.
My thought on this from years of glass and construction work: fire a couple rounds to get it started, use a hammer to clear the rest which is likely laminated.
 
Even that seems a little odd in having the forethought and knowledge of window construction.
"The muzzle of the rife might not work well enough, I better bring a hammer."
 
Moral of this thread ?
Fuck country music.
"oh my horse died and my truck got pregnant, oh woe is me......"
Sung to a very cheesy 3 note riff does not make music, it makes caterwauling, insidious, back ground white noise....also known as static.
 
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Trump was President.

While not using his power to force transparency for the biggest mass attack since 9/11 he was quick to make bump stocks illegal............

Let us hear your theory......
Trump sucks. He was 100% correct when he called it a swamp. He completely underestimated how dangerous and untrustworthy Republicans are as a political party.

His problem was/is that he thinks Republicans want to drain the swamp. In reality the political class wants to fuck everyone not already in the political class and that means they'll fuck Trump along with the rest of us.

I promise you that the FBI lied right to his face about Vegas, just like they did on every other plot they were running.

Trump's greatest failing is trusting any politician to do the right thing for American citizens.
 
Trump sucks. He was 100% correct when he called it a swamp. He completely underestimated how dangerous and untrustworthy Republicans are as a political party.

His problem was/is that he thinks Republicans want to drain the swamp. In reality the political class wants to fuck everyone not already in the political class and that means they'll fuck Trump along with the rest of us.

I promise you that the FBI lied right to his face about Vegas, just like they did on every other plot they were running.

Trump's greatest failing is trusting any politician to do the right thing for American citizens.

So I'm guessing you voted for Biden?
 
Prince Alaweed(sp) had the suite above the shooters rooms. The doors were locked between them from the room that was empty before the shooting started so no way Paddock could have shot from the other room. This was in the computer logs because the whole building room locks are on that system. Prince Aliweed was arrested in SA as soon as he returned to the Kingdom. Prince Aliweed was one of the largest donater to the Clintons, as well as a major share holder of twitter. He also had a helipad above his suite, Witneses heard a chopper take off from the building and others caught muzzle flashes in the sky during the shooting. Casings were found 1/4 mile from the building so we know Paddock had to be over gassed to do that lol. Then ther are these videos
 
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Prince Alaweed(sp) had the suite above the shooters rooms. The doors were locked between them from the room that was empty before the shooting started so no way Paddock could have shot from the other room. This was in the computer logs because the whole building room locks are on that system. Prince Aliweed was arrested in SA as soon as he returned to the Kingdom. Prince Aliweed was one of the largest donater to the Clintons, as well as a major share holder of twitter. He also had a helipad above his suite, Witneses heard a chopper take off from the building and others caught muzzle flashes in the sky during the shooting. Casings were found 1/4 mile from the building so we know Paddock had to be over gassed to do that lol. Then ther are these videos

"Get to the choppa!"
 
I believe we had a thread on it here, the Route 91 Documentary. I actually watched the whole thing. There was a good portion of that dedicated to some "very unusual" helicopter activity that took place during that evening. Wouldn't have to clean up any belt fed droppings if they never left the cabin.
 
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