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Buy the AnD fx120i. You can build on it with a V3 or V4 auto throw. In the mean time you have a lab rated scale to verify throws.
For just checking the RCBS Lite I can recommend the Ohaus SPX123. It's the same resolution, and more importantly, just as fast to weigh and stabalize as an A&D120fx, but it's smaller and simpler, almost like someone planned its footprint for use on a reloading bench.
Think they're aimed at use in the jewlery and/or pharmacutical industry. Not exactly cheap, but not too bad.
Think they're aimed at use in the jewlery and/or pharmacutical industry. Not exactly cheap, but not too bad.
Scout™ SPX Portable Precision Balance SPX123 AM
Portable Precision Balance SPX123 AM is part of the Scout™ SPX family of products.
us.ohaus.com
Very true. Where is the best place to buy?
a scale of this grade will generally let you resolve/measure charges by the physical piece of propellant, if you are using larger stick type extruded powders. This is about as good as it gets, although every gadget has its limitations. Looks like it may be gone. Wish you all would learn how to use search function.
www.snipershide.com
CE Products Discount Code?
Anyone got the 2022 discount code for CE Products. It seems the old "CAMBRIDGE" one no longer works... TIA
www.snipershide.com I ended up getting the fx 120i scale and wow amazing scale. My plan was to throw powder with my rcbs lite then fine tune with the dandy trickler til I can get the v4 setup. I think at this point I will try to sell the rcbs lite and get a powder thrower to speed things up.
For just checking the RCBS Lite I can recommend the Ohaus SPX123. It's the same resolution, and more importantly, just as fast to weigh and stabalize as an A&D120fx, but it's smaller and simpler, almost like someone planned its footprint for use on a reloading bench.
Think they're aimed at use in the jewlery and/or pharmacutical industry. Not exactly cheap, but not too bad.
Scout™ SPX Portable Precision Balance SPX123 AM
Portable Precision Balance SPX123 AM is part of the Scout™ SPX family of products.us.ohaus.com
This scale is not the same accuracy as the AnD. It has an overall 95% accuracy of 0.08 to 0.09 grains. The Fx-120 is ~.06 to .07 gr.
Having used both, pragmatically, they seem the same to me, both are fast and will weigh to a single kernel. Obviously if one is planning on getting an Autotrickler down the road, the FX120 is a no brainer.
But, if one is just looking for a good general purpose scale for their bench, I stand by my opinion that the little Ohaus is better for that (though I found mine for significantly less than they typically go for, costs being nearly the same I'd go FX120).
That said, if one is really looking more so for a powder dispenser that'll do +/- 0.02gr... and they're current or ex Mil/LEO, their discount price on the RCBS Matchmaster is really tough to pass on.
I see its battery powered. How long do the batteries last? When the batteries get low does the device let you know or does it start weighing erratically?
The A&D Fx 120 is probably your best bet if you ever plan to upgrade to the Auto trickler. But any lab rated milligram scale will work. I've got a couple MetlerToledo's and they'll both measure in grains. I set up my RCBS uniflo to throw close, put the pan on the scale and trickle up with a cheap Hornady trickler. My poor man's auto trickler. Ebay has a lot of milligram lab scales. Every now and then one pops up for sale in the PX.
I have know idea, it has a power cord too and I've only run it on 120V (I'm not really sure why it even has the option to run it off the batteries?).
It's a portable balance and yes it has low battery indicator. Says it right in product description.
I didn’t see the 120v power cord in the description or photos that I was looking at. Good to know. I picked up the A&D fx120I that was in the exchange a couple days ago that should be here tomorrow or I would have tried the Ohaus you recommended.
I don’t have a v4 either nor one on the way. I have actually been plenty happy loading off of two chargmasters. The newer chargmaster supremes throw a charge in about 15 seconds in learn mode. I don’t know why I even bought the balance?
I have the rcbs lite which isn't super fast but I put it at 70.9 then trickle up to 71 on the fx120i scale. Been working pretty good but I notice the rcbs lite does mess with the fx120i scale a little while it throws the charge.I don’t have a v4 either nor one on the way. I have actually been plenty happy loading off of two chargmasters. The newer chargmaster supremes throw a charge in about 15 seconds in learn mode. I don’t know why I even bought the balance?
I have a lite as well. I can pour the charge from the lite into a case and then return the pan, grab the pan from the supreme and pour that charge into a case and return the pan, and the supreme will still throw the next charge faster than the lite. Its quite a bit faster. I still like the lite but will probably sell it off at this point.
For how you are loading, it would make the most sense. I see no benefit in using a chargmaster set light and then trickling up. Way to slow. You would be better off with a scoop and trickling up
Haha yeah I don't doubt it. But only had it a few days trying to figure out for sure exactly what I want and how to do it. But I have been throwing a charge on lite then dumping that into the fx120i pan so my lite can start throwing another charge while that's happening I trickle up throw charge in case and seat bullet by then the lite is ready to go again
I didn’t think about it like that. Makes more sense to me now.
Just a lot going on now on the bench. I don't like how the lite vibrates on the fx120i I'm looking at getting a small table to set next to the bench might run smooth. Always something to play itI didn’t think about it like that. Makes more sense to me now.
When I first got my Fx120i I used a Frankford Arsenal powder throw and would dump a charge about a half grain low. I had a Hornady vibratory trickler mounted over the Fx with a small funnel in the top lid. Throw and set on scale then a couple pushes on a button for the trickler and done. Pretty fast, but not as nice as the V4. And it took a lot of practice to be fast and accurate, but it worked.
I have the dandy trickler coming tomorrow so going to help out on that part but v4 is a 6 month wait and then gotta round up more cash so in the mean time gotta rig something up that's good
The main thing is: with a good scale, however you do it, getting every charge to within a kernal or two makes a big difference downrange. After spending thousands on reloading shit, a good scale was one of the last things I bought, and my only regret is I wish I had got one sooner.
I don't want to open the can of worms here, but I don't buy into the whole "node" thing at all, so I cringe when I hear guys say shit like "having charges within +/- 0.1gr is good enough"... It's just not, a tenth of a grain is a lot, way too much variation really.
With all the crazy tedious stuff us reloading guys do in order to make good ammo and get low ES/SD numbers, you'd figure measuring one's charges to be as close to each other as possible would be where we'd all start... yet there are still guys turning necks and uniforming flash holes while using powder charges that are all over the place.
I don't want to open the can of worms here, but I don't buy into the whole "node" thing at all, so I cringe when I hear guys say shit like "having charges within +/- 0.1gr is good enough"... It's just not, a tenth of a grain is a lot, way too much variation really.
With all the crazy tedious stuff us reloading guys do in order to make good ammo and get low ES/SD numbers, you'd figure measuring one's charges to be as close to each other as possible would be where we'd all start... yet there are still guys turning necks and uniforming flash holes while using powder charges that are all over the place.
