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D R A K E N B U R G | advance precision rifle system

Palmetto-Pride said:
I learned my lesson the hard way…guy at the range let me shoot his Desert Eagle 50 pistol brass case came back and hit me in the right eye…..injured my eye pretty good I still don’t see as good out of that eye and this was about ten years ago.
Anyway your rifle looks great I wish you much success with it!
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That is unfortunate to hear. Thank you for the encouragement.

When I designed the rifle, I did make sure that the locking lugs have enough contact area and shear strength. For the prototype rifle the bolt head is machined from 4340 and then Nitrided. The barrel extension is machined from 17-4 PH Stainless that is heat treated. I hardness tested both twice to ensure that it is the correct hardness. So I knew as long as the barrel is made to spec, it will be safe to fire. But still, it was my first time not only shooting a rifle I designed myself, but also firing a round as big as a 338LM! So I was a bit nervous. Kind of like an experienced tailor not only parachuting for the first time, but also doing it with a parachute that he designed and sewed himself. A real test to see if one if willing to bet your life on ones ideas.

Hope your eye keeps on getting better.
 
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Mute said:
My pleasure. Certainly a bolt on will be fine since many of us have done it and are quite happy. However having the option of an integrated one (which should help to keep from adding more weight to the gun) will also be an desirable option. For example I think that one of the biggest feature improvements of the AI ASR over their previous models is the integrated ARCA along the bottom of those rifles.
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You are right, it will save a lot of weight and make the handguard even more rigid as well. Incorporating such a rail into the design would be easy, but might take a while before a new handguard is made. But stay tuned : )
 
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karagias said:
Hanno,

I just came across this thread. Congratulations on your achievement. Starting with an idea in your head and taking it to a working rifle is no small feat. Excellent job and best of luck to you.

Ted
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Hi Ted

Thank you for your message, it is an honor coming from you. I admire and have been following your work closely for many years since you are not afraid to think out of the box and innovate. Wish you all the best with your future projects.

Regards

Hanno
 
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Mlok or similar common mounting on bottom side of hand guard. Let people pick and choose which (if any) arca-swiss rail they want. Short, long, front, rear, picatinny rail, etc.

Nice work so far.
 
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D R A K E N B U R G said:
Hi all

I am in the process of developing an advance precision rifle system.

It has many unique features:
  • Uses 3D printed Titanium parts extensively.
  • Weighs only 11.5lbs (5.2kg) with a heavy 5.7lbs (2.6kg), 27" straight taper barrel.
  • Folding stock with thumbs-up grip that is shorter than conventual folding stocks with a pistol grip.
  • Trigger assembly can be removed and installed without tools in seconds without affecting the rifle's zero.
  • Probably the lowest full length top rail on any rifle.
  • Barrel clamping feature that results in more clamping force for the same amount of torque as other rifles.
  • Barrel tenon design that mates the barrel via a thread and tight fitting sleeve to improve the co-axial alignment between the barrel and barrel-extension.
If you are interested in my journey as an independent firearm developer, feel free to follow the links:

If you have any questions, let me know down below.

Thank you

Hanno
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Any updates?
 
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phlegm said:
Any updates?
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Thank you for your interest. I will give a summary of the project as it stands currently.

GENESIS 338 - Alpha
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This was the first prototype rifle. It was functional as one can see from the test video. It loaded, fired and ejected reliably. But it still required a lot of refinements, as one would expect from going from zero, to making a complete rifle.

After the video, I was approached by a local New Zealand company specializing in precision manufacturing to team up and continue developing the rifle. This was crucial for me since after the first rifle I was completely out of all my savings and it would have taken years for me to save up to build the second one.

I made over 40 improvements to the rifle and renamed it to:

G300 - Alpha
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The name change was two fold. There were too many other firearm related products named, "Genesis", so I wanted to move away from it and I also wanted to make the name simpler, hence the name, "G300". "Alpha" is just the phase of the project.

Some of the major improvements on the G300 are:
  • Made action a little bit longer to fit extended length cartridges.
  • Bolt stroke is a lot smoother.
  • Refined barrel clamping mechanism. Nothing wrong with original one, the new one is just better.
and the biggest off all,
  • what was already the lightest rifle in it's class, is another 600 grams (1.3lbs) lighter! Total weight of the bare rifle with a straight tapered 27" steel barrel is now only 5.2kg. Note that the original weight of the Genesis 338 was with a light 20" barrel.
The manufacturing company did a phenomenal job in record time making three of these rifles. The plan was to send it to a customer for review, but we decided against it since there were still improvements required.

I made another handful of improvements, and that bring us to:

G300 - Beta

This rifle has not been manufactured yet as Covid has made it nearly impossible due to supply chain issues and lock downs. New Zealand companies are under severe strain to keep their bread and butter projects going, thus projects like these has to be put aside for the time being.

Conclusion

I can not wait to try out the latest iteration and my plan has always been to make an update video of the project once I've tested it. Unfortunately I am not sure when that will be. Hopefully it will be soon!
 
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D R A K E N B U R G said:
Thank you for your interest. I will give a summary of the project as it stands currently.

GENESIS 338 - Alpha
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This was the first prototype rifle. It was functional as one can see from the test video. It loaded, fired and ejected reliably. But it still required a lot of refinements, as one would expect from going from zero, to making a complete rifle.

After the video, I was approached by a local New Zealand company specializing in precision manufacturing to team up and continue developing the rifle. This was crucial for me since after the first rifle I was completely out of all my savings and it would have taken years for me to save up to build the second one.

I made over 40 improvements to the rifle and renamed it to:

G300 - Alpha
View attachment 7844299
The name change was two fold. There were too many other firearm related products named, "Genesis", so I wanted to move away from it and I also wanted to make the name simpler, hence the name, "G300". "Alpha" is just the phase of the project.

Some of the major improvements on the G300 are:
  • Made action a little bit longer to fit extended length cartridges.
  • Bolt stroke is a lot smoother.
  • Refined barrel clamping mechanism. Nothing wrong with original one, the new one is just better.
and the biggest off all,
  • what was already the lightest rifle in it's class, is another 600 grams (1.3lbs) lighter! Total weight of the bare rifle with a straight tapered 27" steel barrel is now only 5.2kg. Note that the original weight of the Genesis 338 was with a light 20" barrel.
The manufacturing company did a phenomenal job in record time making three of these rifles. The plan was to send it to a customer for review, but we decided against it since there were still improvements required.

I made another handful of improvements, and that bring us to:

G300 - Beta

This rifle has not been manufactured yet as Covid has made it nearly impossible due to supply chain issues and lock downs. New Zealand companies are under severe strain to keep their bread and butter projects going, thus projects like these has to be put aside for the time being.

Conclusion

I can not wait to try out the latest iteration and my plan has always been to make an update video of the project once I've tested it. Unfortunately I am not sure when that will be. Hopefully it will be soon!
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This is pretty cool! Excited to see what you do with it :)

- Josh
 
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Sniperwannabee said:
Absolutely amazing! Please don’t release it for sale calling it a beta.. we have too many beta’s in the USA…Any ideas on price range yet?
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Thank you for the compliment and advice. "Beta" will not be in the name, I just added it to the write-up to make it easier for people to follow the status of the project.

My interaction with Theis ended up being limited. I would like to give a shoutout to @brainf and @Feniks Technologies for how they handled the situation. Wish the team @Hoplite Arms all the best for the future!
 
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D R A K E N B U R G said:
Rifle: #Drakenburg #G300
Manufacturer: #glacierriflecompany
Scope: #LeupoldCore #LeupoldOptics - Mark5HD (7-35x56 Tremor 3)
Scope mount: #spuhr - ISMS (SP-5002)
Bipod: #atlas - BT69-LW17 Gen. 2
Suppressor: #oceaniadefense - 338 Ratchet Lock Titanium
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I had never seen this thread before... Just read-through... Will these be available in the US, and in other chamberings, like a 1:8 twist .28 Nosler? It should work well in the larger Lapua-sized action design, with a RUM magazine. You could also seat the big 195's out really nice and long in a Lapua-length magazine made for slightly thinner RUM cartridges...Should be easy enough to 3D print the RUM mag body and follower.

If they will be, I could probably be interested in something like that in the future for a badass hunting rifle. Especially if you will offer a smaller compact tactical version in short-action cartridges with short barrel lengths, like a 16.5" .308 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, .25 Creemoor, .260 Rem, 7mm-08 Rem, etc...
 
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FuhQ said:
I had never seen this thread before... Just read-through... Will these be available in the US, and in other chamberings, like a 1:8 twist .28 Nosler? If they will be, I could probably be interested in something like that in the future. Especially if you will offer a smaller version in short-action cartridges with short barrel lengths, like a 16" .308 Win, 6.5 Creedmoor, .25 Creemoor, .260 Rem, 7mm-08 Rem, etc...

It should work well in the larger Lapua-sized action design, with a RUM magazine. You could also seat the big 195's out really nice and long in a Lapua-length magazine made for slightly thinner RUM cartridges...Should be easy enough to 3D print the RUM mag body and follower.
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Yes, once the design is ready, this will be available in the USA. As for chamberings, we are only focusing on Lapua sized cartridges for now. The rifle in the picture above is fitted with a 300 Norma barrel.
 
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Dave62677 said:
What kind of pricing are we expecting at?
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Preferably one healthy kidney, but two okayish ones will probably suffice when the rifle on special : )

On a serious note, unfortunately I do not have an estimate of the price at the moment. The rifle has more Titanium than Travis Pastrana and thus heavily dependent on the price of it. The price will dependent on the cost of Titanium the day it is in production and there is no production date currently.
 
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D R A K E N B U R G said:
Preferably one healthy kidney, but two okayish ones will probably suffice when the rifle on special : )

On a serious note, unfortunately I do not have an estimate of the price at the moment. The rifle has more Titanium than Travis Pastrana and thus heavily dependent on the price of it. The price will dependent on the cost of Titanium the day it is in production and there is no production date currently.
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I can’t grow anymore kidneys , take my alcoholic liver.
 
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D R A K E N B U R G said:
Preferably one healthy kidney, but two okayish ones will probably suffice when the rifle on special : )

On a serious note, unfortunately I do not have an estimate of the price at the moment. The rifle has more Titanium than Travis Pastrana and thus heavily dependent on the price of it. The price will dependent on the cost of Titanium the day it is in production and there is no production date currently.
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Are you using titanium primarily for weight reduction? If you can stick to the weight of the current prototype I think you have a winner.
 
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Mute said:
Are you using titanium primarily for weight reduction? If you can stick to the weight of the current prototype I think you have a winner.
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Yes, I am using Titanium for weight reduction, but not for the same reason most designs do. In most firearms, Titanium is used to reduce weight of big parts that require the strength of steel, for instance a bolt action receiver. For the G300, all the high stress parts are relatively small, like the bolt head and barrel extension, thus there are no big components that require the strength of steel and no real benefit to go to Titanium. The reason why I went for Titanium is because it is the lightest metal that can be 3D printed practically. So the weight savings are not primarily because of the Titanium, but more so because of the advantages that come with 3D printed compared to machining.

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As for weights, here are some numbers. The rifle in the photo above has the following:
  • Quick attach Titanium suppressor (14.85 oz / 0.421 kg).
  • Ratchet lock muzzle brake ( 3.9 oz / 0.110kg).
  • 27.5" straight taper barrel weighing in at (6lb 1.5 oz / 2.757 kg) by itself.
  • Spuhr scope mounts (9.6 oz / 0.272 kg).
  • Leupold Mk5 7-35X56 (33 oz / 0.935 kg).
  • 10 Rounds of 300 Norma (14.6 oz / 0.413 kg).
  • Atlas bipod (16.15oz / 0.458 kg).
  • Total weight without accessories = 11.8 lb / 5.351 kg.
  • Total weight with all accessories above = 17 lb 5.1 oz / 7.85 kg.
That makes it the lightest rifle in it's class by 3 to 6 lb while having a longer and heavier barrel than some.
 
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Longshot85 said:
@D R A K E N B U R G

I've been off the hide for 10-12 months......

I cannot use words to successfully describe how AMAZING this is!!!!!!

Any updates ?

Any thoughts of trying a Carbon Fiber barrel?
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Thank you for the compliment @Longshot85, you have really good timing as I took some footage last weekend. I am just cleaning it up and hope to share it soon.

A carbon barrel will of course reduce the weight even more and since it is a quick change barrel system, one can set up the rifle for many scenarios quickly.

I don't have a carbon barrel at the moment, but hope to get one in the future.
 
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I'm loving the design of this rifle. I like how you used additive manufacturing, because once you get the printer tuned for the material you can print multiple receivers in the same time as it would to print one. I do have to say I hated machining metal prints, I broke a lot of taps in them lol. I wish you the best of luck with this project. I hope to see more soon.
 
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I am left wondering what kind of animal would be appropriate to shoot at short range with a with a 338 Lapua :)

Did you build your own trigger or use a drop in from someone else?
 
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Digetydog said:
I am left wondering what kind of animal would be appropriate to shoot at short range with a with a 338 Lapua :)

Did you build your own trigger or use a drop in from someone else?
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You do realize he's from South Africa right?



Also, short range....long range......it's all covered in a light weight package that's carrying plenty of payload with big cals.......and is extremely modular.

A person could own this rifle in a very unpopulated area.....long way away from civilization.......use it to hike/hunt ......is very user friendly for cleaning/servicing.....and barrel swaps are smooth. There's zero need for a gunsmith.

There's only a couple other rifle systems that are this robust from the factory and can be multical very easily.

When you add lightness and folding shorter than other folding chassis/rifles........this rifle is definitely filling a void where most people desire what @D R A K E N B U R G is making but its not currently offered. Users are either stuck trying to piece together top tier parts.....or making a compromise when trying to build a rifle that would be similar to the G300.

Even if you got similar in weight.......you're not swapping barrels this easy (unless you snagged a BARLOC a while back) and it's not gonna fold that short.
 
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Longshot85 said:
You do realize he's from South Africa right?



Also, short range....long range......it's all covered in a light weight package that's carrying plenty of payload with big cals.......and is extremely modular.

A person could own this rifle in a very unpopulated area.....long way away from civilization.......use it to hike/hunt ......is very user friendly for cleaning/servicing.....and barrel swaps are smooth. There's zero need for a gunsmith.

There's only a couple other rifle systems that are this robust from the factory and can be multical very easily.

When you add lightness and folding shorter than other folding chassis/rifles........this rifle is definitely filling a void where most people desire what @D R A K E N B U R G is making but its not currently offered. Users are either stuck trying to piece together top tier parts.....or making a compromise when trying to build a rifle that would be similar to the G300.

Even if you got similar in weight.......you're not swapping barrels this easy (unless you snagged a BARLOC a while back) and it's not gonna fold that short.
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Lighten up Francis. It was a joke!
 
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Jigstick said:
So when can I buy one?
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The best answer I can give you is that we are doing our best to optimize the rifle and it will be ready when it is ready : )
Digetydog said:
I am left wondering what kind of animal would be appropriate to shoot at short range with a with a 338 Lapua :)

Did you build your own trigger or use a drop in from someone else?
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First there was the 300 Blackout, then the 8.6 Blackout, the next logical step is to cut a 338 lapua case shorter and jam a 50cal projectile in for a 50 Blackout. Then this rifle will be perfect for launching sub sonic 800 grain projectiles at short range animals ;)(y) But yes, a big rifle like this at short range does makes a bit of a mess : /

Yes, the whole rifle is bespoke, including the trigger.
 
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reubenski said:
Tell me more about this 50 Blackout? 🤣
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Made a quick CAD model to see if this will actually work. This is what I got:

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The shoulder might be a bit of a problem it seems as it is potentially too small to headspace on. Maybe 416 Blackout makes more sense? 🤨

Hopefully Kevin Brittingham is already working on something like this :cool:
 
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