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    The story of 21 Sikhs who stood against 10,000 Muslims, to the last man.

    Even though its spoken in Hindustani, the story, landscape, photography, and music make it well worth the watch.

    Highly recommended.

    On Amazon Prime and likely other places.
     
    I watched this movied a few weeks ago. I thought that it was entertaining and authentic. It was about a real battle that happened in 1897.

    It did go Bollywood when the soldiers were singing and dancing and romantic with the appearance of the wife in several scenes.

    There was a Muslim with a muzzle loader long range rifle who was a campy character, but added some drama.

    What was interesting is that the Sikhs had Martini-Henry breech loading single shots. They looked like authentic originals. Near the end a Sikh captured two rifles from some Afgans when they got into hand to and fighting. In a high level shot when they were laying on the ground you could see that they were Lee-Enfields with the 5 round magazine.

    So I'm wondering if this was an error on the part of the film makers but the Lee-Enfield was introduced in 1895 while the Martini-Henry was introduced in 1871, so what was the answer for the Sikhs having an inferior rifle? Apparently the British didn't want the Sikhs to be able to out gun them, is the rumor that I discovered, so they didn't issued them the newer rifle.

    Now it could be that the British just didn't want to spend the money, but who knows.
     
    Fellow member harry_x1 maybe? Edit to add I don't seem to know how to tag someone...
     
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    21 against 10,000? Sikhs had them out numbered.
     
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    thanks for adding me in to the conversation. Yeah, it is one of the endless list of battles in Sikh history where they fought to the last man against a far superior (in number) force. The most famous of the last stands is actually from time of our 10th Guru (1705) wherein 40 men defended a fort against an army of 100k (mostly hindu and muslim soldiers of the Indian govt of that time). It was an unbelieveable battle wherein Sikhs would come out of the fort in a batch of three and engage a sea of enemy, who were constrained by a narrow uphill approach to the fort. Sikh historical sources claim thousands of casualities among besiegers.

    Regarding Saragarhi, I was a bit disappointed by the movie. I think it does disservice to the story due to many fictional elements. It also does not represent the Sikh regiment, known for its discipline and hardiness in a correct fashion. Believe me, Sikhs, when in uniform, need no man to motivate them to fight till the last. Anyways, this short animation in my view provides the most authentic description of the battle. Do watch if you interested in this event.

    Another must read is a book by Winston Churchill,"The story of the Malakand Field Force". It details the second battle/campaign of British against Afghans. It will give chills to anyone remotely interested in wars/military. Available for free on kindle
     
    Watched the previews, reminds me of the movie 300, accurate or not I'm going to enjoy it for entertainment.
     
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    thanks for adding me in to the conversation. Yeah, it is one of the endless list of battles in Sikh history where they fought to the last man against a far superior (in number) force. The most famous of the last stands is actually from time of our 10th Guru (1705) wherein 40 men defended a fort against an army of 100k (mostly hindu and muslim soldiers of the Indian govt of that time). It was an unbelieveable battle wherein Sikhs would come out of the fort in a batch of three and engage a sea of enemy, who were constrained by a narrow uphill approach to the fort. Sikh historical sources claim thousands of casualities among besiegers.

    Regarding Saragarhi, I was a bit disappointed by the movie. I think it does disservice to the story due to many fictional elements. It also does not represent the Sikh regiment, known for its discipline and hardiness in a correct fashion. Believe me, Sikhs, when in uniform, need no man to motivate them to fight till the last. Anyways, this short animation in my view provides the most authentic description of the battle. Do watch if you interested in this event.

    Another must read is a book by Winston Churchill,"The story of the Malakand Field Force". It details the second battle/campaign of British against Afghans. It will give chills to anyone remotely interested in wars/military. Available for free on kindle

    Sat Nam
     
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    The story of 21 Sikhs who stood against 10,000 Muslims, to the last man.

    Even though its spoken in Hindustani, the story, landscape, photography, and music make it well worth the watch.

    Highly recommended.

    On Amazon Prime and likely other places.
    Lmao. When Veer was around, you sure gave him shit. Guilty conscience?
     
    Lmao. When Veer was around, you sure gave him shit. Guilty conscience?
    I tried numerous time to make peace with Veer, he wasnt interested. I hold no grudge, whats past is past.

    I posted the article because it was interesting.

    Period.
     
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    Another must read book. The incredible story of american adventurer Alexander Gardner who ended serving as a General in the Army of Sikh Empire. Such men are not born anymore.
     
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    Another must read book. The incredible story of american adventurer Alexander Gardner who ended serving as a General in the Army of Sikh Empire. Such men are not born anymore.

    Thanks for the recommendation. Seems he was cut from the same bolt of cloth as Sir Richard Francis Burton.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendation. Seems he was cut from the same bolt of cloth as Sir Richard Francis Burton.
    thanks for sharing his name...just read the wikki on Sir Richard...people dont realise that the Indian empire was built on sweat and blood of some exceptional enghlishmen. The spirit of adventure, chivarly, cunningness, bravery, survival, those men displayed, is seldom seen in human history.

    Additionally the similarity between the values of american revolutionerins and their contemporary Sikh revolutionaries are too uncanny. It is amazing that these two people, separated by vast geography, at same time were waging a struggle for almost identical values/aims and had an uncanny similar cultural. That is what makes us Sikhs, feel so at home in US of A.
     
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