I was just not 10 minutes ago going to anneal 292 pieces of .300 BO Brass. I have an Annealeez Machine that has been great for the 2 plus years I have owned it. But when I went to size up the machine for the .300 BO brass, I got worried about melting the sponge wheels seeing as the brass is so short. I am not annealing this brass for accuracy sake. I am annealing this brass to get more life out of it seeing as it is such a pain is the balls to get for the past couple years. Thinking maybe a set of the small sponge wheels are in order here. If you do anneal your .300 BO brass, check in here. And if you do it on an Annealeez machine, LMK if you are using the stock wheels, or if you purchased the small wheels (If they are even existent. I haven't checked yet).
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I think it's the extra small wheel kit you want
https://www.scheels.com/p/annealeez...-SHORTMAG.html#q=annealeaz&lang=en_US&start=2
https://www.scheels.com/p/annealeez...-SHORTMAG.html#q=annealeaz&lang=en_US&start=2
I did the math per the web site. Hopefully the kit that I ordered works. If not. extra small it is.
Pain in the balls to source? Range pick up 223/5.56. Small chop saw. Cut just behind shoulder. Full length size. Trim to length. About the only thing easier is 6.5 <==> 6 creedmoor.
Range pick up 300BO is easier.
After decades of buying and sizing up .221 Fireball brass to make 300 Whisper, finding it free laying all over the range is a welcome change.
I anneal fresh converted brass before sizing. I use the annealeaze and wrap the wheels with aluminum tape. Also works for 6br. Helps a lot for that intial sizing
Edit... I am using their small wheel set wrapped for br and blackout.
Edit... I am using their small wheel set wrapped for br and blackout.
Tag for replies. I bought a set of the small wheels a while back to use for 6.5 Grendel. Have not used them yet. I now am in the process of getting set up for 300 BO. Might do as M4orturnate does and anneal before sizing converted brass.
Off topic, but which 300 BO cutoff jig is best?
Do you guys anneal 300 BO each time before sizing?
Off topic, but which 300 BO cutoff jig is best?
Do you guys anneal 300 BO each time before sizing?
I only do the first time but probably will again sfter the 3rd loading just to keep it semi consistent. Dont use s jig just chop a little below the shoulder
I anneal 300 Blk on an Annealeez. Use the small wheels, no big deal.
But what are "sponge" wheels? Is that some european word for plastic?
But what are "sponge" wheels? Is that some european word for plastic?
Made/converted 10's of thousands of .300 BLK brass... Never annealed a single one of them. Never had any issue, so never had any reason to. 
Nope. I don't anneal. Make .300 AAC and 6.5 Grendel and reload 223, 308, 9mm, 40s&w, and 10mm.
I process a lot of 300 Whisper/Blackout for local shooters because my 1050/110 with a Mark 7 autodrive makes it much easier and faster.
Most people dont ask me to anneal it.
For my own full auto plinking, I do it because I have an AMP and because I can.
For my boltgun 300 ammo, I always do.
Most people dont ask me to anneal it.
For my own full auto plinking, I do it because I have an AMP and because I can.
For my boltgun 300 ammo, I always do.
I don’t think anyone is claiming you have to anneal when forming 300 Blk from 5.56. You don’t.
But 300 is the same as any other rifle brass, in that if you reload it enough times, you’ll want to anneal it to prevent neck splits and to make neck tension even. Just because it’s a short case doesn’t mean that need magically goes away, but I suspect some of you just haven’t loaded your cases enough times to get to that point.
But 300 is the same as any other rifle brass, in that if you reload it enough times, you’ll want to anneal it to prevent neck splits and to make neck tension even. Just because it’s a short case doesn’t mean that need magically goes away, but I suspect some of you just haven’t loaded your cases enough times to get to that point.
I treat my 300 BO just like all my other brass . I prep it like my match ammo . Annealing is a huge benefit for many reason . One being consistent neck tension , which leads to consistent accuracy . I shoot it in bolt guns . I guess if it was just blasting ammo for an AR platform not taking the time to anneal would be ok . Another thing to remember if using chopped 556/223 the portion that becomes the new neck/shoulder has not been annealed fully from the start and in some cases thicker/stiffer than factory 300 BO brass. The heat may have run down that far while still being 556/223 but not enough to properly anneal that area .
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I anneal, but I convert all of my own from LC brass--I have a virtually unlimited supply of once fired LC from my club after the local SWAT guys finish their training. The annealing makes sizing much more consistent. I don't think I've gotten more than 3 loads on a piece of brass yet--my .300 is my pig hunting gun and I'm always too busy watching the pigs to worry about where my brass is going.
I use an old Lee lead pot and salts to anneal. I made a little stand with 2 posts on it clipped to the correct height to anneal just past the shoulder......once you get the rhythm its easy to have each case in the salts for 7-8 seconds and I get a perfect temper line on each case. I don't have to worry about ruining brass by over-annealing like I did with propane, and results are much more consistent. Just have to be careful not to splash or drip.
I use an old Lee lead pot and salts to anneal. I made a little stand with 2 posts on it clipped to the correct height to anneal just past the shoulder......once you get the rhythm its easy to have each case in the salts for 7-8 seconds and I get a perfect temper line on each case. I don't have to worry about ruining brass by over-annealing like I did with propane, and results are much more consistent. Just have to be careful not to splash or drip.
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Brass catcher. Shoot em up and when you get in the truck you unzip and drop it on the floor board to collect at the end of the night.
@spife7980
Good idea--I don't know why I never thought about that. I'm not a big volume shooter with .300Blk, and whenever I get below ~250, I just convert more.
Good idea--I don't know why I never thought about that. I'm not a big volume shooter with .300Blk, and whenever I get below ~250, I just convert more.
Which brass catcher are you using?
I've tried Caldwell - junk IMO. Currently using a Brass Goat, which works really well. Only complaints are the bulk, and if pointing the muzzle down sometimes 300 Blk brass can fall out. That zipper style looks less bulky than the Brass Goat, might be worth a try if it works as well.
Haha no worries. I just ran into too many times where the net was collapsed, so the brass wouldn’t eject properly and caused malfunctions. Or the cage around the net moved away from the receiver and brass came out.
FWIW that Brass Goat is only about $40 on Amazon. Has a catch can that ejects like a magazine to dump your brass. But for forged lowers only.
I had trouble with brass melting to the bag on the caldwell one I had.
I have a couple of the Caldwell bag type, with the velcro that I usually lend to people shooting beside me at the range if they're hitting me with brass. But my Magwell Mounts Brass Goat is well worth the $40, IMO. Had mine for about a year. Probably will buy another one soon to have a 2nd one.
I have been using the caldwell bag for a few years with no issues. I have never heard of a Brass Goat, until this thread. I just ordered one.
Wheels & Alum tape. ? wasn't there someone seeing if there was a market for wheels made of Alum .?
Someone in this forum was/is in the process of trying to develop aluminum wheels. I got about 1/2 way through the thread and gave up. I am sure that he has an update if you want to read it.
Here's the thread, Basically the Annealeaz is inferior and made of crap parts. So he sold his and gave up on the wheels.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/annealeez-aluminum-wheels.7094289/
Fixed it for you. Unless you're making the same claim yourself.
The people who can't make an Annealeaz work are the same people who would screw up their own oil change. Or have never worked with their hands.
I have yet to anneal any of my 300 BLK brass. It's all converted LC brass and I'm working on it's 6th reload of mostly subs. All I do is seat the bullets and give the completed round a light crimp to keep them in place. Never had a issue and I'm working on 1k rounds fired using only a few hundred cases, some hot supers thrown in for hunting and HD zeroing
Was just looking at a different thread and this one popped into my feed… I never annealed my 300BLK until pretty recently. Started to get some cases with very loose neck tension, and was going pretty hard on my factory crimp die to compensate.
Some brass was gtg, some not…. I dug deeper and noticed almost all the cases with the loose necks were converted brass; ergo, brass I converted (or bought) when 300BLK was still a pretty new thing 10 or so years ago. They have to be on their 6th (or more) reloading by now.
I just bought a new AGS version 2.0 annealer a few weeks ago and have started running all my 300BLK brass through it after my usual overkill cleaning and prepping process:
Think I may need to up my time in the flame a bit more, at about 4-5 seconds right now. I definitely notice the difference when I neck size now. Much smoother as the case runs through the die with the 300 or so cases I’ve annealed so far:
Gonna pick up some 750 degree (maybe 650 too) Tempilaq paint, and test some trashed brass (mouth beat to hell, loose primer pockets, etc.) to destruction…get ‘em glowing red on the inside of shoulder and then go past that point. Trying to nail down the right amount of time to fully anneal, without destroying the brass.
Some brass was gtg, some not…. I dug deeper and noticed almost all the cases with the loose necks were converted brass; ergo, brass I converted (or bought) when 300BLK was still a pretty new thing 10 or so years ago. They have to be on their 6th (or more) reloading by now.
I just bought a new AGS version 2.0 annealer a few weeks ago and have started running all my 300BLK brass through it after my usual overkill cleaning and prepping process:
Think I may need to up my time in the flame a bit more, at about 4-5 seconds right now. I definitely notice the difference when I neck size now. Much smoother as the case runs through the die with the 300 or so cases I’ve annealed so far:
Gonna pick up some 750 degree (maybe 650 too) Tempilaq paint, and test some trashed brass (mouth beat to hell, loose primer pockets, etc.) to destruction…get ‘em glowing red on the inside of shoulder and then go past that point. Trying to nail down the right amount of time to fully anneal, without destroying the brass.
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Win if you can. Lose if you must. But always cheat.
Was just looking at a different thread and this one popped into my feed… I never annealed my 300BLK until pretty recently. Started to get some cases with very loose neck tension, and was going pretty hard on my factory crimp die to compensate.
Some brass was gtg, some not…. I dug deeper and noticed almost all the cases with the loose necks were converted brass; ergo, brass I converted (or bought) when 300BLK was still a pretty new thing 10 or so years ago. They have to be on their 6th (or more) reloading by now.
I just bought a new AGS version 2.0 annealer a few weeks ago and have started running all my 300BLK brass through it after my usual overkill cleaning and prepping process:
Think I may need to up my time in the flame a bit more, at about 4-5 seconds right now. I definitely notice the difference when I neck size now. Much smoother as the case runs through the die with the 300 or so cases I’ve annealed so far:
Gonna pick up some 750 degree (maybe 650 too) Tempilaq paint, and test some trashed brass (mouth beat to hell, loose primer pockets, etc.) to destruction…get ‘em glowing red on the inside of shoulder and then go past that point. Trying to nail down the right amount of time to fully anneal, without destroying the brass.
If you’re going to use Tempilaq, get some 900*. 750 is the minimum to start annealing, not the target.
Or go until they just barely start to glow dull red in a dark room, and keep it set there or back off a hair. Personally I stopped using Tempilaq.
