Just playing devils advocate so don't flame me too hard, but what "IF" the election theft wasn't theft at all. I'm with you in being very suspicious of it, but what if it was sold to us as a theft, but no more than a standard insignificant amount of voter fraud actually occurred? What would your (as well as mine) attitude be if the election was stolen, but it went out way, would you be upset? What if the media manipulated the results data coming in in such a way to create the illusion of fraud to try to trigger conservatives into a violent reaction so they can demonize us more in the nightly news?
^^^^ at least someone else gets it
I'll play along with the Devils Advocate........
The problem with this is that there are ALWAYS a few repubs that will vote for whatever the left is trying to push through. The media will portray it as "bipartisanship" and shower praise on the rinos, who aren't up for reelection and will hope you forget that they voted for "common sense gun control" or "helping poor migrants" or "regulating crypto" or "ensuring our kids get a good education" or "raising taxes on the rich" or "fighting climate change" etc. etc. etc. etc.
That 50% / 50% split certainly builds some nice pensions with perks for both sides.
The election in 2020 wasn't "stolen". The democrats played the game better than republicans did. In 2020, the election rules were changed in many states for universal mail in ballots, ballot harvesting was made legal, which of course favors large cities and apathetic democrat voters would, normally, would never have voted in the first place. Why did it take so long for votes to be counted in large cities? Because improperly filled out ballots were allowed to be corrected. All within the rules. Republicans care too damn much about facts and logic, the Democrats prioritize winning the elections by any means necessary, including changing the rules.
It actually wasn't "all within the rules". It was not state legislatures that made up the "rules", which is precisely what the Constitution says. It was random government officials in various states that "made up rules". And they didn't "correct" ballots - like what does that even mean? They "adjucated" ballots, in large batches, which is selecting for the voter who they "intended" voted for. So I guess "correcting" a ballot means you voted for the wrong person and we need to "correct" that.
Whether you like it or not, those were the rules of the 2020 election and now the 2022 election. Republicans still won't learn. To win, Republicans will need a large ballot harvesting operation moving forward. Republicans are too spineless to win elections and play the same games that Democrats do to win elections.
In their defense, Republicans would have needed 60 votes to overcome the filibuster in the senate to do these things such as repeal obamacare. As far as guns, the only way NFA is going to be repealed is through the supreme court. The republicants are too damn afraid of being called murderers if it has anything to do with legislatively expanding gun rights. The war on terror will never end because too many senators and representatives make too much money on the war.
You're half right. Republicans must find the absolute cream of the crop nominees across the board. Democrats, with their advantage of large cities and ballot harvesting, only need someone that's not dead who is a democrat. Joe Biden has constant fights with the stairs and teleprompter, Fetterman cannot complete a thought.
I have completely abandoned all hope of what the Republicans can "do".
I'm thinking the reason older people are pessimistic...is because they know
For man such as yourself that emanates such a near Devine selfless noble intellectualism. You seem to overlook John Mcstain and the Senate filibuster.
That's the problem with having the House and Senate filled to the brim with one party, or the other. NO balance. As we can see now, when you have both houses filled with commie's, we get commie things. It's right there in front of our eyes. Mac
Well stupid people always outnumber smart people in the world , so if the stupid all vote then we never win
No, they weren't the rules. The rules are clearly written in law. An attorney general doesn't get to make up law for convenience.
Yes those were the rules the Republicans and Democrats agreed upon. The republicans were thinking that everyone would just vote R down the ballot. The Democrats, who are far better at winning elections, noted they could harvest ballots, have the population concentration advantage, etc. to win elections. When stupid Republicans, who realized the Democrats played the game smarter, didn't sit and think how they could harvest ballots, instead focused conspiracy theories.
ive been saying this for the last 2 years. if you use critical thinking and logic and put that with the media story, one would assume they cheated but, considering all the other information out there, you can also make a strong case for your theory. here is something else to add in, what if we, the truly decent hard working moral people of the country are really outnumbered now ? i do believe being outnumbered is one of the reasons why the mid-terms went the way they did. more than 50% of the population is on some type of gov assistance. that includes Social Security, those peoples lifestyle has not been effected by biden and his admin, they are still getting their checks from the gov along with their free health care, free housing, free public transportation.( except for the seniors on SS)nothing has changed for them. albeit, it’s not a prosperous lifestyle but they don’t understand that. they are dependent on gov for everything. they ain’t voting against that.
So Biden lost all the counties that it always takes to win, got 81 million votes and couldn't get more than 20 people at a election rally, but won without cheating.......
Then it was an illegitimate election. There's no gray area. It is legal or it is not.
Absolutely. Due to the voting rule changes, and due to how easily it is to get 1000 votes out of one apartment complex in a large city, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to get votes. Most folks in these large cities each got a ballot. Someone came to their apartment to harvest the ballots. Takes far less energy to harvest ballots in large cities than it does in rural areas. Why did it take so long to tabulate the results? Rules were changed such that disinterested votes had to fix their ballots. Democrats have found their winning strategy: low impact, disinterested voters that they can harass into filling out ballots. Republicans in many of these states have done very little to fix ballot harvesting and universal mail in voting.So Biden lost all the counties that it always takes to win, got 81 million votes and couldn't get more than 20 people at a election rally, but won without cheating.......
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So changing voting laws at the last minute, isn't cheating.....
voting laws were changed and agreed upon by both Democrats and Republicans. Democrats played the game better because Republicans are both short sighted and wanted Trump out office just as bad as Democrats did. You can't say it's cheating if the other side played the game better.
Yes, there's many states that already allowed harvesting ballot and such but it was allowed in those that don't.
I think at this point, it is more like a snake with one head and two bodies. They aren’t working for us, so they have to be working against us. Takes a lot to feed two bellies, the minions are pretty much screwed.
Neither Fetterman nor Walker could pass a GED exam (without cheating).
Let's not forget the thousands of votes "found" and all for Biden, which we all know is IMPOSSIBLE.....
If the election was stolen and it went our ( by our I assume you mean anti-left) way I would be all for it.
