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The Stress just keeps building seven dead in VA

not that it's any better, but this sounds like workplace violence vs random shoot up the store stuff. the holidays can be a very tough time for some folks.
 
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It will be buried here soon. It wasn't LBAbcdefxyz people and it was a pistol.

Doc
 
Saw on the news a supervisor walked into the break room and started blasting. I hear what reasons are given for these shootings, but I don't get it. I can't empathize it. The world was a better place when businesses fired the lazy and men could settle things like men. In this era of less violence, there's sure as hell a lot more of it.
 
These type of shootings are making it very hard on those that own firearms and CAN keep it together. Sad day for the victims. I can say first hand as a Paramedic in a major city I have seen this personally. It’s all bad! Horrific scene.
 
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I’ll take ‘Mental Illness’ for $200, Alex!
eh, some people handle stress better than others, and some people just have more stress than others. that said, hard to understand what would lead folks to killing others like this. at the least, don't be a d1ck to others and at best, be nice to others. you never know whose kid is dying slowly in a cancer ward, who can't see their kids over the holidays due to custody issues, etc.
 
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The USPS has been a hotbed of pissed off employees for a long time, A numcer of the first mass shootings occurred ath USPS. You get a worthless prick entrenched in a union job, who continually abuses his employees and ...voila',,,somebody fights back.
 
eh, some people handle stress better than others, and some people just have more stress than others. that said, hard to understand what would lead folks to killing others like this. at the least, don't be a d1ck to others and at best, be nice to others. you never know whose kid is dying slowly in a cancer ward, who can't see their kids over the holidays due to custody issues, etc.
All those things are horrible and stressful. But you have to have mental illness turned up to 11 to jump to the idea that the solution is blasting your co-workers, a nightclub, a post office or a church. Because doing that is not a normal stress reaction. Doing that is fucking nuts.

These people are batshit crazy and should be in institutions, not being mainstreamed with hugs and lithium.

Sirhr
 
The USPS has been a hotbed of pissed off employees for a long time, A numcer of the first mass shootings occurred ath USPS. You get a worthless prick entrenched in a union job, who continually abuses his employees and ...voila',,,somebody fights back.
I remember back in the day when it seemed like there were a bunch of unhinged postal workers that shot up their workplaces. That's where the term "going postal" came from. Haven't seen any of those in a while.

Branden
 
Apparently he (manager) told some of the people to leave the room and shot others. Dude must have been seriously fucking pissed off.


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Funny (not really) that you bring up stress. In July I moved to Oklahoma from Virginia. What Ive noticed is that the STRESS level is so much less here. I had known it was high there but until I got out of it for a while it didnt impact me as to how much. The closer you go to cities the worse it gets. I couldnt imagine living in DC, Philly, or NYC. I'd blow my brains out in a week. As John Denver put it, "Thank God Im a Country Boy".

It is mental illness to do that stuff, but I think its the stress that pushes it out of control and into violence.

Stress is a real killer in many ways.
 
In the 49 years of working I have watched the whole Work Ethic and workplace/coworker/supervisor "normals" change to the point I simply had to get out - retire, save myself, and get out of The Way. I have a serious soft spot for most of the younger employees at my old place of employment as I trained and nurtured (literally) every Engineer, Installer, Programmer and even the Supervisors, Salesmen and Management. I have no idea how these people are gonna continue for another 20+ years until they can retire and escape.

It's a fucking madhouse trying to work now and just do your job and get home to take care of loved ones and responsibilities. Nothing seems to remain of the work ethic and "rules" that were "normal" back in 1973 when I entered the working world. I can't imagine spending 12 years at the Walmart working nights as apparently the shooter in this story did.

I think he literally just finally cracked and committed suicide after venting his anger, frustration, and madness. I used to tell my Employees (after we had a couple of instances people bullying and messing with other employees) about the theory of pushing some peoples buttons repeatedly and not giving them options. Some folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow their brains out.

Then other folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow everyone else's brains out before they end their own suffering.

Something in our Civilization/Culture is cracking record numbers of people, more and more every year, and driving them to murder others. Until we figure out what is broken and fix it, I fear we'll see more and more of this and the noose tightens. That said, my condolences to the families of the victims. It's the families and loved one who will suffer most from this.

VooDoo
 
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The modern leftist piece of shit always blames others for their shit choices in life. Them/they get upset when they cannot legally groom or fuck children or they end up paying their own bills.

I wish we could do an honest examination of their computers and phones and find out who at the FBI has been encouraging them to kill others. This is not random, its part of the ban guns to distract from Hunter Biden crimes program.
 
Has to be a serious mental illness

FFS its just work, and its just work at Walmart
nothing could be that bad

I have worked in IT for 30 years, it can be stressful when you have 10's of thousands of employees unable to work and you are the only person that can bring the system back online and shit is fucked. I use to have this one crazy boss that would always tell us, no one is dying, you are not a brain surgeon or a heart surgeon or an ER doc. Take a breath, people will live without their fucking email for a couple hours. It was refreshing to have a boss with that attitude.

I am betting someone was fucking someone's wife/sister/mother/girlfriend in the work place.
This wasn't about the day to day job at Walmart.

I have seen lots of sexy funny business in the workplace and otherwise normal people completely lose their fucking minds over someone diddling an intern...
 
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In the 49 years of working I have watched the whole Work Ethic and workplace/coworker/supervisor "normals" change to the point I simply had to get out - retire, save myself, and get out of The Way. I have a serious soft spot for most of the younger employees at my old place of employment as I trained and nurtured (literally) every Engineer, Installer, Programmer and even the Supervisors, Salesmen and Management. I have no idea how these people are gonna continue for another 20+ years until they can retire and escape.

It's a fucking madhouse trying to work now and just do your job and get home to take care of loved ones and responsibilities. Nothing seems to remain of the work ethic and "rules" that were "normal" back in 1973 when I entered the working world. I can't imagine spending 12 years at the Walmart working nights as apparently the shooter in this story did.

I think he literally just finally cracked and committed suicide after venting his anger, frustration, and madness. I used to tell my Employees (after we had a couple of instances people bullying and messing with other employees) about the theory of pushing some peoples buttons repeatedly and not giving them options. Some folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow their brains out.

Then other folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow everyone else's brains out before they end their own suffering.

Something in our Civilization/Culture is cracking record numbers of people, more and more every year, and driving them to murder others. Until we figure out what is broken and fix it, I fear we'll see more and more of this and the noose tightens. That said, my condolences to the families of the victims. It's the families and loved one who will suffer most from this.

VooDoo
Well said.

Again, this seems to be more prevalent in higher population areas....higher population = stress.

But I think it deeper than that, I think its the World, unraveling, and its pace is accelerating. People feel it at deep levels their not really in touch with and dont know how to deal with it.

Time is coming for a complete (not just political) reset
 
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Define stress.

R
Ok, w/o looking it up Ill give it a go.

The emotional, mental, and physical, reaction to finding oneself in a situation they're having to deal with.

The dictionary says:

a state of mental or emotional strain or tension resulting from adverse or very demanding circumstances:"he's obviously under a lot of stress"
 
Ok, w/o looking it up Ill give it a go.

The emotional, mental, and physical, reaction to finding oneself in a situation they're having to deal with.

The dictionary says:

a state of mental or emotional strain or tension resulting from adverse or very demanding circumstances:"he's obviously under a lot of stress"
Doesn't mention forcing anyone to commit a crime..
Weird.

R
 
It's a fucking madhouse trying to work now and just do your job and get home to take care of loved ones and responsibilities. Nothing seems to remain of the work ethic and "rules" that were "normal" back in 1973 when I entered the working world. I can't imagine spending 12 years at the Walmart working nights as apparently the shooter in this story did.

I wonder if he was ever rewarded by the Waltons...talk about a dead end job then add Black Friday craziness on top of it.
 
Ok, w/o looking it up Ill give it a go.

The emotional, mental, and physical, reaction to finding oneself in a situation they're having to deal with.

The dictionary says:

a state of mental or emotional strain or tension resulting from adverse or very demanding circumstances:"he's obviously under a lot of stress"

Marine Scout Sniper course, SAS selection, Ranger School, Delta Selection, Q-Course, Officer Selection Course for Agency... all referred to as "Stress Courses." Why? Because they put people in stressful situations. Not knowing if you are passing? Up against time/distance unknowns? Wondering what others in the course are going to write about you (those questions are asked). Messing with your mind with changes in routines and unpredictability (in a world where predictability is king... the Military.)

The stress is used to bring out the best in people. And show who they really are. Stress is not always a bad thing. It's a motivator. It's a way to drive folks to excel. It's a way to separate hackers from non-hackers... But not in a destructive ways.

"Just" Stress causing this? Give me a break. It is mentally-ill people who are mainstreamed... and who end up cracking because they are fundamentally batshit crazy. People need to stop coming up for excuses. We have a broken mental-health system in the country. Aka... we don't have one.

But having these whack jobs among us is a plan. Because their antics will get people to demand more security. Ban guns, knives, bats, forks, Mean Tweets... And who is going to do that? More big government. The whole point of control is to control everything. Best way to do that? Get the people begging for more control... because someone threw a wasps nest into their house in the form of nutballs who Cross-dress, Identify as kittens, shoot up schools, chop up infants (see the news on that one)... and everything else that gets the Karens screaming "I want safety... I don't care about freedom."

Ok... says communist government. Glad to oblige. Now, go work in the mine.

These people need to be in institutions. Not prisons. Not abused. Not killed off. They are nuts. Not criminals. We are a rich society. We can afford to make the mental-midgets comfortable and feed them for life. Instead of infringing everyone else's rights.

And if the powers-that-be... don't do this. Sooner or later, we'll go back to witch burnings. Because that's how they handled it into the 19th Century. Crackle crackle!

Sirhr
 
Doesn't mention forcing anyone to commit a crime..
Weird.

R
No, but everyone has their breaking point. Thats like when you put too much torque on the nut and it strips. Maybe for that short moment that they are stripped of reason they dont see what theyre doing as a crime, just getting even.

Im not justifying it, just trying to under stand the mechanics.

And btw, Happy Thanksgiving. ;)
 
Marine Scout Sniper course, SAS selection, Ranger School, Delta Selection, Q-Course, Officer Selection Course for Agency... all referred to as "Stress Courses." Why? Because they put people in stressful situations. Not knowing if you are passing? Up against time/distance unknowns? Wondering what others in the course are going to write about you (those questions are asked). Messing with your mind with changes in routines and unpredictability (in a world where predictability is king... the Military.)

The stress is used to bring out the best in people. And show who they really are. Stress is not always a bad thing. It's a motivator. It's a way to drive folks to excel. It's a way to separate hackers from non-hackers... But not in a destructive ways.
while the stuff above is definitely very highly stressful, they are limited time events, and frankly, folks willingly and eagerly sign up for these. work or family-related stress has no definitive end date and may not be even close to voluntary (divorce, kid in cancer ward, etc) with no short term solution. but no way am i saying any sort of stress should cause anyone to shoot up a workplace, mall or school etc. it's definitely sad when folks see no way out and want to off themselves and it's too bad it doesn't just end there.
 
while the stuff above is definitely very highly stressful, they are limited time events, and frankly, folks willingly and eagerly sign up for these. work or family-related stress has no definitive end date and may not be even close to voluntary (divorce, kid in cancer ward, etc) with no short term solution. but no way am i saying any sort of stress should cause anyone to shoot up a workplace, mall or school etc. it's definitely sad when folks see no way out and want to off themselves and it's too bad it doesn't just end there.
100 percent right...

Just saying that 'stress' is not the be-all-end-all of nastiness.

And as I keep saying... it's mental illness. Not some excuse like 'stress' which has a wide, wide array of meanings and definitions. Not all of them bad.

Sirhr
 
No, but everyone has their breaking point.

Sure but not everyone's breaking point ends in death and violence. In other words, there are very likely underlying mental issues contributing to reaching THAT breaking point.
 
Sure but not everyone's breaking point ends in death and violence. In other words, there are very likely underlying mental issues contributing to reaching THAT breaking point.
I was never arguing that, only that the stress exacerbated the underlying problem to the breaking point.
 
This shooting , the gay night club shooting , gay night club in NY, NY , the Pulse Night Club and all the others . Mental illness .
This shit does not happen in a vacuum .
Mix in equal parts of Batshit Crazy , Woke Da POS Commie Knob Gobbler and a letter agency and Voila .
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And a large majority of these crazies are gender dysphoric . Fight me .
 
Parenting/Educational system/Mental weakness = cowardice acts with no regard for life.


Example #1- 7 year old boy hears and sees how it's ok to medically change sex and name. Parents agree and apply for name change on a social security card at the local office and schedule the medical procedure. Check back in 10 years to see how this turns out.

Example #2- Local 2 teacher quits her job because she refused to call a he a she and the teacher kept getting reported and the state supports the IT.

True examples I have been made aware of in the last 3 days.

Mental illness is a medical condition that affects the brain. This is not the problem.

Mental weakness is the result of your surroundings. This is.
 
Pedo Peter already rambling about the need for more gun control. FUCK YOU PEDO PETER. Hope your dementia advances to the point where every single one of your cherished life memories escape your grasp one by one.

Fucked up case this one. Mofo already planned to take himself out of this life but like the coward he is, he wanted to take several others with him.

You CANNOT EVER let your guard down. Anywhere. Work. Party. Company function. Parking garage. Whatever. Every person out there is a potential nutjob. The only and safest system of personal defense that exists in this day and age is a CCW handgun easily deployed and ready to use, and a sober and alert mind.
 
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In the 49 years of working I have watched the whole Work Ethic and workplace/coworker/supervisor "normals" change to the point I simply had to get out - retire, save myself, and get out of The Way. I have a serious soft spot for most of the younger employees at my old place of employment as I trained and nurtured (literally) every Engineer, Installer, Programmer and even the Supervisors, Salesmen and Management. I have no idea how these people are gonna continue for another 20+ years until they can retire and escape.

It's a fucking madhouse trying to work now and just do your job and get home to take care of loved ones and responsibilities. Nothing seems to remain of the work ethic and "rules" that were "normal" back in 1973 when I entered the working world. I can't imagine spending 12 years at the Walmart working nights as apparently the shooter in this story did.

I think he literally just finally cracked and committed suicide after venting his anger, frustration, and madness. I used to tell my Employees (after we had a couple of instances people bullying and messing with other employees) about the theory of pushing some peoples buttons repeatedly and not giving them options. Some folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow their brains out.

Then other folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow everyone else's brains out before they end their own suffering.

Something in our Civilization/Culture is cracking record numbers of people, more and more every year, and driving them to murder others. Until we figure out what is broken and fix it, I fear we'll see more and more of this and the noose tightens. That said, my condolences to the families of the victims. It's the families and loved one who will suffer most from this.

VooDoo
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I took a job at a WalMart way back in the day.
I was the only person nationwide at a WalMart that did vehicle alignments.
They hired me specifically to train the kids to do it and paid me fairly well too.
Problem, alignments require math, logic, metric to standard conversion on the fly.....and yes MOA to MIL (of a sort) doing degrees to minutes of angle to percentages. Old american cars use degrees....like 1.2 degrees positive camber. Newer Imports use 1.2 mil.....and so on. Steering axis inclination (SAI) is another problem to explain to the hapless minded...
Anyway.
They tried to force me to become a manager level employee which would change me to a salary from the hourly pay I was getting.
Old wally world scam, once you're on salary they will say you need to work 70-80 hours a week with no overtime (at least back then they could do that...especially in a right to work state). F dat, I quit so fast I blew up their skirts.

Yea, I can definitely understand a walmart manager going postal.
If I had went ahead and gone to salary all those years ago I might have done so myself.
"Yer honor, them mofo's needed killin"
 
All experience heavy challenges daily.
Character and solid ideals keep men from acting on dark impulses.
When the weak have been given an excuse they'll act in a predictable way.
One can think through most any life trial.
One could say that is the reason some current problems haven't seen a reaction yet.

R
 
Saw on the news a supervisor walked into the break room and started blasting. I hear what reasons are given for these shootings, but I don't get it. I can't empathize it. The world was a better place when businesses fired the lazy and men could settle things like men. In this era of less violence, there's sure as hell a lot more of it.

Yes. Less faces getting punched, more shootings and suicides. (Even when removing the Clinton suicides from the stats)

The art of talking to people on a truly on a human level, face to face, and being honest is being lost to a generation that plays video games and swipes left or right for dating apps.
 
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Yes. Less faces getting punched, more shootings and suicides. (Even when removing the Clinton suicides from the stats)

The art of talking to people on a truly on a human level, face to face, and being honest is being lost to a generation that plays video games and swipes left or right for dating apps.
Exactly. Modern society says a man can't reveal anger, without being marked as violent, or out of control. The feelings get buried, until they erupt like a volcano. Anger is the scary emotion, for some. The expression of anger is healthy. Anger does not necessarily equal violence. The failure to express anger leads to mental illness.
 
stress , what stress Walmart is a free to visit freak show . There is no stress at that zoo only good laughs for the whole family .
when you need a reminder of just how lucky you are your not one of them yet , or how blessed you are that there problems are not yours . Pray and give thanks .
 
stress , what stress Walmart is a free to visit freak show . There is no stress at that zoo only good laughs for the whole family .
when you need a reminder of just how lucky you are your not one of them yet , or how blessed you are that there problems are not yours . Pray and give thanks .

For all we know a couple of the employees could've been fucking his wife so he blasted them, plus a couple others because hey once it starts better go for the gold.
 
Perhaps we should stop encouraging mental illness and making people who are seriously mentally ill into media darlings and stars??? Perhaps we should go back to what we did and they way things were when guns were much much easier to get, and God was much more feared? Perhaps we should just do the opposite of what got us here????
 
In the 49 years of working I have watched the whole Work Ethic and workplace/coworker/supervisor "normals" change to the point I simply had to get out - retire, save myself, and get out of The Way. I have a serious soft spot for most of the younger employees at my old place of employment as I trained and nurtured (literally) every Engineer, Installer, Programmer and even the Supervisors, Salesmen and Management. I have no idea how these people are gonna continue for another 20+ years until they can retire and escape.

It's a fucking madhouse trying to work now and just do your job and get home to take care of loved ones and responsibilities. Nothing seems to remain of the work ethic and "rules" that were "normal" back in 1973 when I entered the working world. I can't imagine spending 12 years at the Walmart working nights as apparently the shooter in this story did.

I think he literally just finally cracked and committed suicide after venting his anger, frustration, and madness. I used to tell my Employees (after we had a couple of instances people bullying and messing with other employees) about the theory of pushing some peoples buttons repeatedly and not giving them options. Some folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow their brains out.

Then other folks take the stress until they can't sleep at night....they can't perform normal functions and bit by bit they become so distressed that they end up sitting in the corner, in the dark, rocking back and forth and crying until they pick up a pistol and blow everyone else's brains out before they end their own suffering.

Something in our Civilization/Culture is cracking record numbers of people, more and more every year, and driving them to murder others. Until we figure out what is broken and fix it, I fear we'll see more and more of this and the noose tightens. That said, my condolences to the families of the victims. It's the families and loved one who will suffer most from this.

VooDoo
It's my belief that EVERYTHING taking place in our country is designed to do exactly this. All of the covid bullshit, which really exacerbated the situation for lots of people. We are under a constant barrage of things, which taken singularly, would be manageable for most folks, but when piled on, day after day, just becomes more than some can deal with.

Also, keep in mind, we have at least a few generations that have never been taught to deal with adversity. They we're never taught how to lose, and upon entry to the real world, they can't cope.

We also, as a nation, have lost our moral compass. There is a lot of really sick shit going on. The bad folks want to continue doing bad shit, often with the sanction of the state. The good folks feel powerless to change it. I think this situation is being borne out evertime we have an election. If you look at the things some of our elected "leaders" condone or even support, it boggles my mind.

I have noticed just in the last two years, it seems like everyone is just ill as hell, has no consideration for anyone else, and just in a constant state of borderline pissed. I think this is on purpose. It's easier to control and manipulate the sheep when they're in a constant state of confusion, and they're distracted with the struggle of every day life.

The sad truth is folks don't know their breaking point until they've reached it, and, unfortunately, some can't control their evil impulses. I do, however, believe it's all by design.
 
For this modern generation "stress" is anything and everything; someone was perceived as not being nice to them, used the wrong word, dared to criticize them, didn't make them the manager after the first week on the job and VP after the first month, they had to actually talk to a customer, their toast burned, they ran out of jelly, they broke a shoelace etc etc.

Mental weakness and mental illness are rampant and normalized.
 
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All these safe space fuckers can't handle when real life happens.

I also think this whole, "never spank your children" method of raising kids has caused a lot of problems.
The beatings should have continued until morale improved....... :ROFLMAO:

I think if we go around and punch everyone under 30 in the face and man 'em up a little all this silly shit will stop. Unless they already have a gun (or access to one) in which case they'll prolly shoot us. Or their Family...or their neighbors. Or our kids. That's why the Left wants our guns. 'Cause when we slap the shit out of a little dweeb to Man him Up he don't go to school and kill his friends instead of the folks that have smacked him in the nose 100 times if they take all the bad things away.

That's my theory.

VooDoo
 
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If people really wanted to kill massive amounts of people they would not use forearms. Explosives are way more effective.

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