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Are Suppressors & SBR's even worth it?

LilGucci

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I live in Oregon and it's easy to tell where this state is headed just by looking at the direction that other Blue states have gone, or are about to go.

Are Suppressors even worth getting if you live in a shitty state like mine? I want to hear from the people in places like California, New York, etc. I want to outfit every firearm I have with one but it seems like a waste of money if I can already sense that that is the direction my state is heading in next. And I know that the end aim of gun control advocates isn't safety, it's ending gun ownership, and their path there is to make life as hard as possible for law-abiding gun owners.

Is there any national/federal protection for me that can circumvent any future State ban on Suppressors and SBR's? SBR's are legal but I just know they won't be in the future, especially in my state. Are they worth it? I don't mind a $200 tax stamp, I care more about losing a large collection of NFA-approved items in the future. Is this something you worry about if you live in somewhere like California?
 
Okay, I will get them then. These are my selections, I'll have to do more research on them but I won't be getting them until next summer so I have time to change this list if necessary. Prices are based on black Friday sales and include tax stamps.

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If you aren’t a troll then you are wasting your citizenship by living in Oregon (or any state on the west coast)
 
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MCSO1357 said:
If you aren’t a troll then you are wasting your citizenship by living in Oregon (or any state on the west coast)
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I grew up here. This is home. It's hard to leave, plus all of my family and friends are here. It's hard to just pick up and make a new life somewhere else.
 
Regardless of whether you live in a state ruled by parasitic hypocritical leftys, we still have federal judges and SCOTUS justices who honor the constitution. Their recent ruling on NY's gun law is testament to that.

The more people who stand up to leftys and tell them to pound sand, the better.
 
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LilGucci said:
I can't separate politics. There's one side trying to take away my gun rights, and one side that's fighting for them.
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My reply was an aside of everything above.

As far as suppressors go, they're like everything else... You need to state your use and maybe people will give suggestions.

I have more NFA items than actual pew pews, so it helps to know your direction.
 
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I think everyone saying to pack up and leave is a noted response... The issue is the California shit follows everyone. And while guns are a single issue for many, it is a non-issue for most. And gun owners are terrible at voting pro 2A.

This happened in AZ, WA, OR, NV, NM, etc. In less than 10 years, all the shit that people left CA for will turn states like ID, MT, TX, MI, etc into the same.
 
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What are your expectations for a suppressor? If it's hearing safe for rifle cartridges, do your homework. AR pistols with braces are in flux, but there are some safer bets, like this tube cover which is not classified as a brace or stock. I would match it with a 8"-9" 300 BO.
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NiteQwill said:
I think everyone saying to pack up and leave is a noted response... The issue is the California shit follows everyone. And while guns are a single issue for many, it is a non-issue for most. And gun owners are terrible at voting pro 2A.

This happened in AZ, WA, OR, NV, NM, etc. In less than 10 years, all the shit that people left CA for will turn states like ID, MT, TX, MI, etc into the same.
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Sad but true. I see Texas standing strong despite the Californian exodus over there. I guess I'll buy property in Idaho then so I can be close to Oregon and move when things get unbearable. I guess we need to renew the gun culture so that it'll matter to younger people too. I don't know the demographics of this site but my bet is that most of you are over 35, not only because guns are an expensive hobby but more so that I feel that a lot of you come from backgrounds where guns were not looked down upon as it is among half of those who live in my state.
 
msgriff said:
What are your expectations for a suppressor? If it's hearing safe for rifle cartridges, do your homework. AR pistols with braces are in flux, but there are some safer bets, like this tube cover which is not classified as a brace or stock. I would match it with a 8"-9" 300 BO.
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That is so cool, I think I'll do that on one of my SBR builds. My worry is that my state will follow California and New York's direction and ban them because they're scary.
 
NiteQwill said:
My reply was an aside of everything above.

As far as suppressors go, they're like everything else... You need to state your use and maybe people will give suggestions.

I have more NFA items than actual pew pews, so it helps to know your direction.
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My use is varied, as I will be throwing them on everything from 9mm handguns and PDW's and 22LR rifles to AR-10's and Bolt Action rifles, but my primary goal is to make my use of firearms more pleasant to shoot, especially hearing-wise, and a secondary goal is flash suppression, which suppressors provide.

I want cans that will outlive my barrels, that are reliable and have good reviews from a lot of people. There are a lot of cans that are cheaper and have less reviews and I kind of want to stay away from those. The suppressors I buy next year will be my first suppressors so I don't know what to expect or what to look out for beyond the Youtube videos and reviews online I've seen.
 
LilGucci said:
I grew up here. This is home. It's hard to leave, plus all of my family and friends are here. It's hard to just pick up and make a new life somewhere else.
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Yeah it is hard, but it's not impossible. There are lots better places to live and if things get significantly worse, you damn sure don't want to be there. Think about that beyond just suppressors.

There is a reason why EVERYONE who gets a Suppressor pretty soon after doesn't even want to be around others who aren't shooting suppressed! It's because it's so much better, that's why! Leave there and then get your cans, but get a Nomad bro.
 
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LilGucci said:
I grew up here. This is home. It's hard to leave, plus all of my family and friends are here. It's hard to just pick up and make a new life somewhere else.
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Not meaning any disrespect. However, I grew up a military brat. I also served. This has been my entire way of life. I am in my 50s now and we will likely move again. As far as family. We all chose our own paths. I am at the point in my life it just isn't a big deal. If we want to visit, we will.
 
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BuildingConceptsllc said:
Yeah it is hard, but it's not impossible. There are lots better places to live and if things get significantly worse, you damn sure don't want to be there. Think about that beyond just suppressors.

There is a reason why EVERYONE who gets a Suppressor pretty soon after doesn't even want to be around others who aren't shooting suppressed! It's because it's so much better, that's why! Leave there and then get your cans, but get a Nomad bro.
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This is going to keep me up all night haha, I'm going to be searching for properties in Utah and Idaho till I have to go to work.

I haven't done much research into suppressors, but my early choice of the Sandman over the Nomad is that I heard the Sandman is made for real heavy-duty use, and as I said above, I want a can that'll outlast my barrel. 174 stainless steal construction for both cans, so they should be the same in terms of durability.
 
MCSO1357 said:
If you aren’t a troll then you are wasting your citizenship by living in Oregon (or any state on the west coast)
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While Portland/Multnomah County is a bunch of crazies, the rest of Oregon is pretty nice. Even adjacent counties to Multnomah, like Clackamas, and to a large extent even Washington County are mostly fine. And up to now, firearm legalities were relatively liberal (I mean that in the literal way, "wide open"). You could open carry, no mag cap restrictions, no "assault rifle" bans, concealed carry with a permit. Though I disagree with a permit requirement for concealed (it should be "Constitutional Carry"), there has really been no need to leave due to overbearing and nonsensical gun laws in this state. I've lived here for 42 years and it's been fine so far until this recent debacle with Measure 114.
 
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LilGucci said:
This is going to keep me up all night haha, I'm going to be searching for properties in Utah and Idaho till I have to go to work.

I haven't done much research into suppressors, but my early choice of the Sandman over the Nomad is that I heard the Sandman is made for real heavy-duty use, and as I said above, I want a can that'll outlast my barrel. 174 stainless steal construction for both cans, so they should be the same in terms of durability.
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The Nomad reg should have no trouble holding up unless you are doing mag dumps all day every day or something. I think the sandman is also a great can just not as quiet but I do love me some nomad cans.

Don't miss too much sleep doing it but I seriously would have some kind if plan, you have a little time to do it though so don't stress yourself out over it.
 
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Suppressors are great. I wouldn't worry about them being banned, just for the sake of not worrying. I also wouldn't put one on every gun. I would grab a .30 cal can, a .223 can, and a rimfire can. If you have a lever action or PCC you want to suppress you can grab a multi-cal can, but in general cans suck on pistols if youre doing anything other than just having fun with them, so I wouldn't go too far into that realm of things right off the bat. You'll swap cans onto the one gun you're running at any time so you don't need a dedicated can for every gun.

I would stick with one centerfire can company if possible, or with cans that can use mounting adapters; the YHM cans are cool because they're 1-3/8x24 threaded so you can throw an adapter on them and run them with any company's mounting system.
 
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Dead Air Sandman has been worth every penny.

Don't let the ney-sayers get you down. Fight those SOBS all the way down. We need less armchair toughguys and more foot soldiers. Plus supressors don't need LEO signoff, just notification.

Remember Illinois got concealed carry. FUCKING ILLINOIS!!! (aka Chicago + the peasants). You can fight back and if you do it smart, turn your state free.

This "move to a free state" means we are all gonna end up living with Bender, so we might wanna rethink our "retreat from the bad people" strategy.
 
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LilGucci said:
That is so cool, I think I'll do that on one of my SBR builds. My worry is that my state will follow California and New York's direction and ban them because they're scary.
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If you're doing an SBR you dont have to put that silly tube thing on it. You can put a real stock on it, that's what you're paying the $200 privilege fee for.

Get a mask, a nomad and a form 1 for whatever lower you want to sbr in jail now. Then add one or two at a time when you can.
 
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I grew up here. This is home. It's hard to leave, plus all of my family and friends are here. It's hard to just pick up and make a new life somewhere else.
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Moved from Florida to Tennessee 20 years ago. It’s worth it do it!
 
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Suppressors are great. I wouldn't worry about them being banned, just for the sake of not worrying. I also wouldn't put one on every gun. I would grab a .30 cal can, a .223 can, and a rimfire can. If you have a lever action or PCC you want to suppress you can grab a multi-cal can, but in general cans suck on pistols if youre doing anything other than just having fun with them, so I wouldn't go too far into that realm of things right off the bat. You'll swap cans onto the one gun you're running at any time so you don't need a dedicated can for every gun.

I would stick with one centerfire can company if possible, or with cans that can use mounting adapters; the YHM cans are cool because they're 1-3/8x24 threaded so you can throw an adapter on them and run them with any company's mounting system.
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I wish I would have bought a rimfire can when I bought one of my others, for .224 caliber and .308 caliber. I wish i would have bought two of each though. Fuckers don't cool down just because you switched them onto a cool gun. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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LilGucci said:
This is going to keep me up all night haha, I'm going to be searching for properties in Utah and Idaho till I have to go to work.

I haven't done much research into suppressors, but my early choice of the Sandman over the Nomad is that I heard the Sandman is made for real heavy-duty use, and as I said above, I want a can that'll outlast my barrel. 174 stainless steal construction for both cans, so they should be the same in terms of durability.
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LilGucci said:
This is going to keep me up all night haha, I'm going to be searching for properties in Utah and Idaho till I have to go to work.

I haven't done much research into suppressors, but my early choice of the Sandman over the Nomad is that I heard the Sandman is made for real heavy-duty use, and as I said above, I want a can that'll outlast my barrel. 174 stainless steal construction for both cans, so they should be the same in terms of durability.
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UpSideDown said:
Suppressors are great. I wouldn't worry about them being banned, just for the sake of not worrying. I also wouldn't put one on every gun. I would grab a .30 cal can, a .223 can, and a rimfire can. If you have a lever action or PCC you want to suppress you can grab a multi-cal can, but in general cans suck on pistols if youre doing anything other than just having fun with them, so I wouldn't go too far into that realm of things right off the bat. You'll swap cans onto the one gun you're running at any time so you don't need a dedicated can for every gun.

I would stick with one centerfire can company if possible, or with cans that can use mounting adapters; the YHM cans are cool because they're 1-3/8x24 threaded so you can throw an adapter on them and run them with any company's mounting system.
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Sounds good! My 9mm cans will be for my PDW's (Scorpion & GHM9), and for fun with two of my handguns. One of my handgun was made to do well with suppressors, while my other that I will build out (a Glock) I'm not too sure about because I don't know too much about Glocks suppressed. But I will definitely be getting a multi-cal can. I think I'd like two cans in every category I own, 30-cal can, 556 can, 22LR, 9mm, but I'll start with just one of each to see how I like them.

The advice about mounting adapters is really good, I'll keep that in mind, thank you!
 
DocRDS said:
You can fight back and if you do it smart, turn your state free.

This "move to a free state" means we are all gonna end up living with Bender, so we might wanna rethink our "retreat from the bad people" strategy.
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That's been my attitude with one exception. I think California is a lost cause. I would even rule out Washington where there is a million-plus difference between registered Republicans and Democrats. But I do think there is hope for Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, and even Colorado. I think if you live in those states, stay put and fight back.
 
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Pistols suck suppressed. Don't build a pistol around suppression. Add a suppressor as a convenience.

Keep in mind, cans can do one thing well or okay with all things. Precision? Thunderbeast and/or area419. Harduse? Sandman, Silentenium, Omega series. Rimfire? TBAC 22TD, Mask, Oculus.

Etc etc

Hope your wallet is deep and your time isn't precious... Because if you didn't start the process yesterday, you are looking at almost a year or more of waiting for approval.
 
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338dude said:
Moved from Florida to Tennessee 20 years ago. It’s worth it do it!
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John Glidewell said:
Not meaning any disrespect. However, I grew up a military brat. I also served. This has been my entire way of life. I am in my 50s now and we will likely move again. As far as family. We all chose our own paths. I am at the point in my life it just isn't a big deal. If we want to visit, we will.
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I'll think about it haha. I can never say never, but if things get too bad in Oregon I have Idaho and Utah in my crosshairs.
 
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LilGucci said:
That's been my attitude with one exception. I think California is a lost cause. I would even rule out Washington where there is a million-plus difference between registered Republicans and Democrats. But I do think there is hope for Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada, and even Colorado. I think if you live in those states, stay put and fight back.
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Washington had their NFA items signed into law by a Democratic governor. While rare, sometimes the right shit lands on someone's head twice.
 
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NiteQwill said:
Pistols suck suppressed. Don't build a pistol around suppression. Add a suppressor as a convenience.

Keep in mind, cans can do one thing well or okay with all things. Precision? Thunderbeast and/or area419. Harduse? Sandman, Silentenium, Omega series. Rimfire? TBAC 22TD, Mask, Oculus.

Etc etc

Hope your wallet is deep and your time isn't precious... Because if you didn't start the process yesterday, you are looking at almost a year or more of waiting for approval.
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My plan was to get them next summer. I'm broke from having bought so many firearms in the past 3 weeks, so unfortunately, I'll have to wait until next year.

Thank you for that list though, I never thought to break down my suppression use around precision, hard-use, and rimfire but this is a very good way to look at it.
 
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If you buy from Capitol Armory, upon approval, they can ship your suppressor right to your door. Something to consider.
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They've had every single suppressor on my list in stock, that's really good to know. I was going to go through Silencerco and Silencershop but I'll definitely consider Capitol Armory now.
 
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LilGucci said:
This is going to keep me up all night haha, I'm going to be searching for properties in Utah and Idaho till I have to go to work.

I haven't done much research into suppressors, but my early choice of the Sandman over the Nomad is that I heard the Sandman is made for real heavy-duty use, and as I said above, I want a can that'll outlast my barrel. 174 stainless steal construction for both cans, so they should be the same in terms of durability.
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Then look into the Rugged Suppressors.

Also, TBAC should have made your list.
 
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Oregon, Washington, and California are all beautiful states that I love to visit, it's just too bad that those states are being run by some of the dumbest retards the planet has to offer. As long as you stay away from the bigger cities, all 3 states are gorgeous, and have a lot of beauty to offer.
Suppressors I would definitely say get what you want, and enjoy them. I'm no legal scholar, but I don't think they can ban something that was legal yesterday, without providing compensation, but like I said, I don't know as i'm only a few dozen IQ points smarter than the dipshits in government. SBR's, SBS's and AOW's I can understand hesitation on, because you have to have permission to take them out of state, and other nanny crap like that, so I hesitate going that route, but suppressors don't have any of that nonsense attached to 'em.

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MinnesotaMulisha said:
Then look into the Rugged Suppressors.

Also, TBAC should have made your list.
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I've never heard of TBAC but now I'm really interested just from reading the description on CapitalAmory haha. They're kind of pricey too but it might be worth it if they're the quietest on the market. I can only have two 30 cal cans. If you were to replace a TBAC with a Deadair Sandman/Nomad or Omega 36M, which one would you drop?

My 30-cal cans will also be used on bolt action guns shooting 6.5 Creedmoor and 308.
 
Short-bus said:
Oregon, Washington, and California are all beautiful states that I love to visit, it's just too bad that those states are being run by some of the dumbest retards the planet has to offer. As long as you stay away from the bigger cities, all 3 states are gorgeous, and have a lot of beauty to offer.
Suppressors I would definitely say get what you want, and enjoy them. I'm no legal scholar, but I don't think they can ban something that was legal yesterday, without providing compensation, but like I said, I don't know as i'm only a few dozen IQ points smarter than the dipshits in government. SBR's, SBS's and AOW's I can understand hesitation on, because you have to have permission to take them out of state, and other nanny crap like that, so I hesitate going that route, but suppressors don't have any of that nonsense attached to 'em.

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Thank you Branden. I was just worried with 8 states banning suppressors that it might happen with mine.
 
LilGucci said:
I've never heard of TBAC but now I'm really interested just from reading the description on CapitalAmory haha. They're kind of pricey too but it might be worth it if they're the quietest on the market. I can only have two 30 cal cans. If you were to replace a TBAC with a Deadair Sandman/Nomad or Omega 36M, which one would you drop?

My 30-cal cans will also be used on bolt action guns shooting 6.5 Creedmoor and 308.
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TBAC is the standard by which precision cans are measured by. They're expensive for good reason. The key is to win (or buy) a 50% or 100% certificate at a match.

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If you're doing an SBR you dont have to put that silly tube thing on it. You can put a real stock on it, that's what you're paying the $200 privilege fee for.

Get a mask, a nomad and a form 1 for whatever lower you want to sbr in jail now. Then add one or two at a time when you can.
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That's good to know. I think I'll keep one around just so that I don't have to carry my NFA tax stamp (or copy) whenever I want to take my firearm out to the range. I mean, I still will keep a copy of my NFA tax stamp in my car/truck but for unplanned events or if I ever need to catch a ride with someone else and accidentally forget to bring a copy of the tax stamp, keeping these on my firearm will help me avoid trouble with the police.

 
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TBAC is the standard by which precision cans are measured by. They're expensive for good reason. The key is to win (or buy) a 50% or 100% certificate at a match.
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Awesome well I guess I'll have to include it then. I really want the best experience possible with my bolt guns and AR-10's. I felt like I could get two suppressors for the price of one TBAC but I really want one stand-out top-tier can that will last me a long time.
 
LilGucci said:
That's good to know. I think I'll keep one around just so that I don't have to carry my NFA tax stamp (or copy) whenever I want to take my firearm out to the range. I mean, I still will keep a copy of my NFA tax stamp in my car/truck but for unplanned events or if I ever need to catch a ride with someone else and accidentally forget to bring a copy of the tax stamp, keeping these on my firearm will help me avoid trouble with the police.

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The only person you are required to show your tax stamp to is an ATF agent on official business. Range, local LE, etc. cannot ask to see your tax stamp.
 
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The only person you are required to show your tax stamp to is an ATF agent on official business. Range, local LE, etc. cannot ask to see your tax stamp.
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I didn't know that, that's good to know. I want to get the most out of my SBR so I'll get a regular stock for it then.
 
LilGucci said:
I didn't know that, that's good to know. I want to get the most out of my SBR so I'll get a regular stock for it then.
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If you're paying $200, why wouldn't you keep the stock on? Kinda defeats the whole purpose of the tax stamp.

I literally travel all over the country with my NFA items (matches) and have never had an issue. Don't think too much about it, it is actually relatively easy to own NFA items (minus empty wallet).
 
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