It's a lefty...If you decide to sell your model T for a discount too, let me know.
Ted, how terrible of you to design a new action
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For top reliability for a long throated 223 (2.525in coal) , would you suggest a Nuke 2.0 / Archmedes or a Coup de grace ?
I have both a Nuke 2.0 and a Medes in 6.5 creed and wondering if I'm better off just getting a nuke 2.0 223 Bolt face or get a GdG 223 action.
Also would your factory nuke rifle 6.5 creed barrel fit on the CDG action ?
Help my simple mind please. If I were to buy one LA, I could buy bolt faces to shoot everything from 223 to 338LM? When you get into the LA calibers, say a 300WM, what are you supposed to use for mags?
We know this is not the end of the ARC line up. I'll get one or two. Yet more or less they will be place holders for Ted's next action. The ARC BAR. The American Rifle Company Bolt Action Rifle.
Ted, how terrible of you to design a new action
I don't know where you could buy long action mags that would feed .223. It seems like you're asking for a product that requires a product that does not exist. Or did you want to hand feed the .223?
The PR says the introductory price is $899. Are you expecting to raise the price at some point once you get production into full swing?
Basically do I need to try and scratch the $ ASAP for the pre sale to save a little money?
Basically do I need to try and scratch the $ ASAP for the pre sale to save a little money?
You're right. I wasn't really thinking of feeding 223 in a LA.
Ted do you have any plans to make a cheytac action now that you have the short and long action game sorted.
A rimfire action would be interesting too.
Been waiting for them to make a rimfire for ages
I can't wait to place an order for a lefty long. Any guesstimate on these? A year? Two?
Regardless, congratulations Ted/ARC, you have another winner on your hands!
Regardless, congratulations Ted/ARC, you have another winner on your hands!
@karagias ^^^^^ This is your next project and you can call it Mikros Thanatos.
Truthfully, this is the action that will replace my comp rifle Nucleus action and I’ll be using the Nuke for a .308 hunting build I’ve had a mind to do.
Screw adjustable hanger… interesting! So am I understanding that one hanger is used for every trigger and the end user adjusts the hanger for sear engagement and reducing cock on close?
What trigger was this designed around? Am I correct in understanding that any adjustments to remove said closing cock would inevitably reduce firing pin travel of that combination? Do we have a concept of approximate travel for 0 closing cock with various popular trigger options?
I prefer 100/0 or 105/-5 and some tactical actions set for light bolt lift have uncomfortably low pin fall when timed for no cock on a TT.
This looks super cool, if proof would cut an arc prefit the world would get a little more fun
What trigger was this designed around? Am I correct in understanding that any adjustments to remove said closing cock would inevitably reduce firing pin travel of that combination? Do we have a concept of approximate travel for 0 closing cock with various popular trigger options?
I prefer 100/0 or 105/-5 and some tactical actions set for light bolt lift have uncomfortably low pin fall when timed for no cock on a TT.
This looks super cool, if proof would cut an arc prefit the world would get a little more fun
I’ll take one or two.
Fingers crossed. I would love to have a matching training rifle for my centerfire.
Oh Lord no! I have a hard enough time staying within (above) my budget now!
I’m thinking same.
Any smith worth getting a chamber cut at, will be able to cut a prefit from ARC’s tenon print. If they can’t, I’d steer clear of them like the plague.
I have the same feeling. Trying to justify another ARC action.
Maybe Nuke 2.0 - 6dasher
Archimedes- 223 rem match
Coup de grace - 6.5 creed with AW magazines
I'd love two. I have 3 of the Archimedes that I will be using for future builds, and would love to have two extra to experiment around with. The price is incredible for what you're getting. Thank you so much Ted, I really love your deep dives on youtube, I think I've watched just every one of them.
Shouldn’t need to touch your action with a drawing provided. Mine didn’t.
Sell, what's that? I'm still shooting my B prefix Surgeon from Prague OK. It's still doing the job well. I may add one of these to the stable though.
I find it strange he doesn’t list his own magazines for compatibility with this action.
I have used arc mags ever since they came out. With a little tweeking I find them to be outstanding. I’ve put thousands of rounds through them with only a few miss feeds that could have been caused by any number of things.
I have used arc mags ever since they came out. With a little tweeking I find them to be outstanding. I’ve put thousands of rounds through them with only a few miss feeds that could have been caused by any number of things.
Not likely.
@karagias - Why did you have to make it so sexy? Damn you!
I just finished this today from the BF sale & for those asking Nuke Gen 2 feeds 223 great. Barrel is Short Action Customs with a flat Breach face.
Modified an Accurate mag to hold 12, feeds flawless. The Nuke has a feed ramp that sends the small 223 rounds where they need to go.
Ted - Do you have any plans to expand your magazine line?? I'm thinking center feed double stack for SA Saum/PRC/WSM 10 round that would be as long as a std AICS 308-10rnd mag. Same for long action mag double stack center feed. While your at it a ARC style 223 mag would be tits.
Let's not forget Proof sells complete rifles & I've suspected that's played a role in what actions they choose to make prefits for.
I'd suggest reaching out to Lothar Walther also. Never heard a bad thing about there barrels, but they suck at marketing or actually making prefits desirably configured. Their Hammer forged barrel/chamber combo would be pretty damn cool for 223 & 308 giving that Steyr spiral look.
I just finished this today from the BF sale & for those asking Nuke Gen 2 feeds 223 great. Barrel is Short Action Customs with a flat Breach face.
Modified an Accurate mag to hold 12, feeds flawless. The Nuke has a feed ramp that sends the small 223 rounds where they need to go.
Ted - Do you have any plans to expand your magazine line?? I'm thinking center feed double stack for SA Saum/PRC/WSM 10 round that would be as long as a std AICS 308-10rnd mag. Same for long action mag double stack center feed. While your at it a ARC style 223 mag would be tits.
Let's not forget Proof sells complete rifles & I've suspected that's played a role in what actions they choose to make prefits for.
I'd suggest reaching out to Lothar Walther also. Never heard a bad thing about there barrels, but they suck at marketing or actually making prefits desirably configured. Their Hammer forged barrel/chamber combo would be pretty damn cool for 223 & 308 giving that Steyr spiral look.
A double stack 223 ARC magazine designed for 2.5-2.6” coal Berger 85.5/88 ELD-M would be the best.
There's some nuances with some of these actions - such as the extractor on the Mausingfield may need to be hand fitted for proper CRF function.
But all else equal, a tenon print is a tenon print, and yes a gunsmith should be able to spin up a tenon to print specs.
Will this be able to run cip length mags
I don’t see why now. All ARC actions can run CIP length mags in LA
Isn't PPC the bolt face same as 6mm ARC? I thought they were all descendents of 7.62x39 lineage through the .220 Russian?
Coup de grace has integral 20 MOA rail. Any plan to expand the M-Brace product line to include an adjustable MOA mount?
Without even trying it, I want one just because of the work put in to make it look cool. It's rare that engineering and art come together so well 
When the lefty's are available I'm in for one if there's a way to get it to Australia.
When the lefty's are available I'm in for one if there's a way to get it to Australia.
I don't think I can resist. I keep kicking around ideas... was gonna see about sourcing a Mark V donor action, or perhaps a Zeus QC... but... all that ARC goodness at $900? The only question is whether I replace my Nuc with this and get a long action as well, or just the long. I should so something sensible, like build a .378 Wby on it. ;-)
