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    My oldest is going to college in the fall, and the school she is going to still requires the covid vaccine (I know, beyond fucking stupid). They allow for an exemption, but the student needs to write an essay in their own words. I got one from a legal website that I used for my work, which worked flawlessly. I am aware I can have her go to another school, blah blah blah, but she doesn't want to. I was hoping someone could point me toward some resources she could use to write the letter.
     
    Check the "my employer mandated the vaccine" thread. If this is her essay in her own words... maybe she should be on here? If they are looking of religious exemption - she should understand where the vaccines came from and how stem cells from abortions were used. If it were me - I wouldn't be funding my child to go to a school mandating the jab at this point, unless you want an indoctrinated daughter on the return.
     
    Check the "my employer mandated the vaccine" thread. If this is her essay in her own words... maybe she should be on here? If they are looking of religious exemption - she should understand where the vaccines came from and how stem cells from abortions were used. If it were me - I wouldn't be funding my child to go to a school mandating the jab at this point, unless you want an indoctrinated daughter on the return.
    Only the strong come back with their brains not completely re-wired!
     
    What college?

    Here is my advice, FUCK THEM

    Most colleges only have this rule for living on campus, so if they are following that stupidity, don't live on campus
    or
    option 2
    and this one is even better, have your child go to a community college for a year or even 2 and get an associates degree first
    then transfer to the 4 year and hopefully this horseshit will be over by then

    and before you start on how CC could never work out
    I have 2 kids, my oldest graduated a community college with an associates, then went to a 4 year big name school and graduated with a bachelors

    My youngest is going to graduate community college with an associates this coming spring and she will attend a big name 4 year college in the fall on a guaranteed acceptance program.

    edited to add- neither of my kids are vaccinated, my older one escaped forced mandates before she graduated and the CC my younger one is in did not mandate it while 4 year colleges were.
     
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    What college?

    Here is my advice, FUCK THEM

    Most colleges only have this rule for living on campus, so if they are following that stupidity, don't live on campus
    or
    option 2
    and this one is even better, have your child go to a community college for a year or even 2 and get an associates degree first
    then transfer to the 4 year and hopefully this horseshit will be over by then

    and before you start on how CC could never work out
    I have 2 kids, my oldest graduated a community college with an associates, then went to a 4 year big name school and graduated with a bachelors

    My youngest is going to graduate community college with an associates this coming spring and she will attend a big name 4 year college in the fall on a guaranteed acceptance program.
    I went to CC myself, and I am 100% for it. She is an excellent student, and she has a partial scholarship there, so it is hard for me to tell her no.
     
    What is your plan if no exemption is granted? Funding attendance to that school funds communist liberal dotrine.....plain and simple. Yes sometimes that cannot be avoided but it certainly can in a case like this where she is basing her choice on "want" to go to an institution that pisses in the face of conservative ideals. No offense intended at all but that is not a stout conservastive. If that it really what she is she will hate, be ostracised and be ridiculed at this institution.
     
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    I hear you. It is really sad we must play this stupid game for higher education with ignorant hypocritical prejudiced institutions. Some are better than others obviously but all but a very few suck in terms of upholding American freedom
     
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    Adam, I feel for you. My oldest is currently a HS senior and this whole year she has been in a “dual enrollment“ which means she doesn’t got to HS but rather goes to a local community college which will get her the last credit she needs to graduate HS and will have more than 24 college credits (she is also taking classes during the summer) when she graduates HS. She will be starting college as a sophomore. This is all great but in order to do this she had to get the vaccine. This made me sick and I still worry about it. We went down the exemption route and found out it had to be a diagnosed and recorded medical condition for the exemption. So far as we have found this applies for every state college (including all the community colleges) here in Maine.

    I am not necessarily against this vaccine but rather how it is being handled. It should be a choice and not forced down our throats. It should have been more thoroughly tested before being offered never mind mandated to so many. I wish there was a way to be able to take a harder stand against this, but it needs to be meaningful to make it worth it.

    On the subject of colleges and this joke of a pandemic. Here in Maine there have been several programs rolled out that pay for students who have graduated the last 3 years or were in HS during the remote learning shit two years ago that are paying for community college. My daughter is going to get 2 years free from one program and was able to get las semester paid less books. We just learned about another program that is probably going to cover this upcoming spring semester too. So there is a chance that she will get all of her undergraduate classes paid for by the state. So it may be worth looking into what your state is offering. Start with the guidance counselor at your daughters HS and at the colleges.

    I know this post is not any help to you at all, but rather I am just reaching out to tell you I feel your pain. Best of luck sir & my best wishes to your daughter.
     
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    Adam, I feel for you. My oldest is currently a HS senior and this whole year she has been in a “dual enrollment“ which means she doesn’t got to HS but rather goes to a local community college which will get her the last credit she needs to graduate HS and will have more than 24 college credits (she is also taking classes during the summer) when she graduates HS. She will be starting college as a sophomore. This is all great but in order to do this she had to get the vaccine. This made me sick and I still worry about it. We went down the exemption route and found out it had to be a diagnosed and recorded medical condition for the exemption. So far as we have found this applies for every state college (including all the community colleges) here in Maine.

    I am not necessarily against this vaccine but rather how it is being handled. It should be a choice and not forced down our throats. It should have been more thoroughly tested before being offered never mind mandated to so many. I wish there was a way to be able to take a harder stand against this, but it needs to be meaningful to make it worth it.

    On the subject of colleges and this joke of a pandemic. Here in Maine there have been several programs rolled out that pay for students who have graduated the last 3 years or were in HS during the remote learning shit two years ago that are paying for community college. My daughter is going to get 2 years free from one program and was able to get las semester paid less books. We just learned about another program that is probably going to cover this upcoming spring semester too. So there is a chance that she will get all of her undergraduate classes paid for by the state. So it may be worth looking into what your state is offering. Start with the guidance counselor at your daughters HS and at the colleges.

    I know this post is not any help to you at all, but rather I am just reaching out to tell you I feel your pain. Best of luck sir & my best wishes to your daughter.
    This is precisely where I am, I feel your pain.
     
    What college?

    Here is my advice, FUCK THEM

    Most colleges only have this rule for living on campus, so if they are following that stupidity, don't live on campus
    or
    option 2
    and this one is even better, have your child go to a community college for a year or even 2 and get an associates degree first
    then transfer to the 4 year and hopefully this horseshit will be over by then

    and before you start on how CC could never work out
    I have 2 kids, my oldest graduated a community college with an associates, then went to a 4 year big name school and graduated with a bachelors

    My youngest is going to graduate community college with an associates this coming spring and she will attend a big name 4 year college in the fall on a guaranteed acceptance program.

    edited to add- neither of my kids are vaccinated, my older one escaped forced mandates before she graduated and the CC my younger one is in did not mandate it while 4 year colleges were.
    This.

    I went CC, then to a state with a atheletic full ride, and then to a PacTen (at that time) university with a scholastic full ride.

    I can guarantee you, the student makes the college, not the other way around.
    The only use I have seen in the 35 or so years since graduation is that a big school name is just a bragging point, it has zero other worth.
    I'd also be the first to say that college is a waste if you have some up front intellect to start with (like, you know, enough to get accepted in the first place).

    Knowing what I know now....I never would have went.

    Famous college dropouts
    Henry Ford
    Bill Gates
    Larry Ellison
    Larry Page
    Michael Dell
    Paul Allen
    Steve Jobs

    And the list goes on and on
    I would say that there are more super successful people that have dropped out than have stayed in college.
     
    Adam, I feel for you. My oldest is currently a HS senior and this whole year she has been in a “dual enrollment“ which means she doesn’t got to HS but rather goes to a local community college which will get her the last credit she needs to graduate HS and will have more than 24 college credits (she is also taking classes during the summer) when she graduates HS. She will be starting college as a sophomore. This is all great but in order to do this she had to get the vaccine. This made me sick and I still worry about it. We went down the exemption route and found out it had to be a diagnosed and recorded medical condition for the exemption. So far as we have found this applies for every state college (including all the community colleges) here in Maine.

    I am not necessarily against this vaccine but rather how it is being handled. It should be a choice and not forced down our throats. It should have been more thoroughly tested before being offered never mind mandated to so many. I wish there was a way to be able to take a harder stand against this, but it needs to be meaningful to make it worth it.

    On the subject of colleges and this joke of a pandemic. Here in Maine there have been several programs rolled out that pay for students who have graduated the last 3 years or were in HS during the remote learning shit two years ago that are paying for community college. My daughter is going to get 2 years free from one program and was able to get las semester paid less books. We just learned about another program that is probably going to cover this upcoming spring semester too. So there is a chance that she will get all of her undergraduate classes paid for by the state. So it may be worth looking into what your state is offering. Start with the guidance counselor at your daughters HS and at the colleges.

    I know this post is not any help to you at all, but rather I am just reaching out to tell you I feel your pain. Best of luck sir & my best wishes to your daughter.
    All those smarts cast aside to take the ultimate risk.
     
    I will have 2 in college this fall. Plenty of good schools where you don't have to deal with that BS. But...its too late to wake the sheep, better to train our children to be lions. Bend the knee if you wish...
     
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    My oldest is going to college in the fall, and the school she is going to still requires the covid vaccine (I know, beyond fucking stupid). They allow for an exemption, but the student needs to write an essay in their own words. I got one from a legal website that I used for my work, which worked flawlessly. I am aware I can have her go to another school, blah blah blah, but she doesn't want to. I was hoping someone could point me toward some resources she could use to write the letter.
    Adam - We found ourselves in the similar situation with our daughter except she already had years invested in her school when covid came around. We went down the road of a religious exemption even though we are not "religious". Legally, they cannot discriminate against you for your "sincerely held moral beliefs". You do not have to base any of it on organized religious doctrine. Our theory was a religious exemption request gives you legal standing and they must consider that. Anything else is just opinion and doesn't carry the weight of potential lawsuits. Much of the resources we used came from this forum and it would be worth searching through the older covid threads, especially the ones having to do with employment mandates.

    On a side note, our daughter is very conservative minded and has weathered just fine going to a liberal leaning school. It sucks and she hates it but it's what's best for her career. We raised her to think for herself and not be impressionable and it has paid off well. Well..... except for that marine she fell in love with. I didn't plan for that one. 🤔
     
    The only use I have seen in the 35 or so years since graduation is that a big school name is just a bragging point, it has zero other worth.
    I'd also be the first to say that college is a waste if you have some up front intellect to start with (like, you know, enough to get accepted in the first place).

    And the list goes on and on
    I would say that there are more super successful people that have dropped out than have stayed in college.
    While I 100% agree that a degree from ANY college in general and the big name's in particular (I despise the fucking ring kissers) is rather meaningless unless you are at some reunion or hitting on some Ivy league pussy, I disagree that the degree has zero worth otherwise.
    There are LOTS of jobs (think engineering, for one) you will not EVER be considered for at all without that degree. In my position, I am not going to take the time to teach some new kid statics (for example) just because they decided to not go to college.

    EDIT: There is not a degree from any school any where on Earf that is worth the clot shot.
     
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    Well..... except for that marine she fell in love with. I didn't plan for that one. 🤔
    At least she fell in love with a man instead of some pinko commie liberal pussy.....even if he is a crayon eating window licker. (I was Army, I have to make fun of Marines, it's a rule or something)

    Branden
     
    While I 100% agree that a degree from ANY college in general and the big name's in particular (I despise the fucking ring kissers) is rather meaningless unless you are at some reunion or hitting on some Ivy league pussy, I disagree that the degree has zero worth otherwise.
    There are LOTS of jobs (think engineering, for one) you will not EVER be considered for at all without that degree. In my position, I am not going to take the time to teach some new kid statics (for example) just because they decided to not go to college.

    EDIT: There is not a degree from any school any where on Earf that is worth the clot shot.
    Strange co-inky-dink.
    I have a MSME and have done more than my share of cube farming and particle swarm optimization shite.
    Nah. nope, k, thx, cya, bye.
    I walked away from a serious cheese job at the old Rockwell HQ when they were in Fullerton Ca. (that should show my age).
    I need to breathe fresh air and not see crappily painted drywall all day.
     
    Adam - We found ourselves in the similar situation with our daughter except she already had years invested in her school when covid came around. We went down the road of a religious exemption even though we are not "religious". Legally, they cannot discriminate against you for your "sincerely held moral beliefs". You do not have to base any of it on organized religious doctrine. Our theory was a religious exemption request gives you legal standing and they must consider that. Anything else is just opinion and doesn't carry the weight of potential lawsuits. Much of the resources we used came from this forum and it would be worth searching through the older covid threads, especially the ones having to do with employment mandates.

    On a side note, our daughter is very conservative minded and has weathered just fine going to a liberal leaning school. It sucks and she hates it but it's what's best for her career. We raised her to think for herself and not be impressionable and it has paid off well. Well..... except for that marine she fell in love with. I didn't plan for that one. 🤔
    We tried that along with the discrimination angle but found out it would require 100% on line, which is shit!
     
    Unless you are trying to be a doctor, engineer or some other trade that REQUIRES a degree, college is worthless.

    Especially now that you can ask ChatGPT to write you any essay about any topic and even tell it how long to make it. AI is going to make information regurgitation obsolete.

    Intern/work at the best company possible. Learn the systems, operations and strategies. Master them for free or while getting paid, then go out on your own and do it.
     
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    Unless you are trying to be a doctor, engineer or some other trade that REQUIRES a degree, college is worthless.

    Especially now that you can ask ChatGPT to write you any essay about any topic and even tell it how long to make it. AI is going to make information regurgitation obsolete.

    Intern/work at the best company possible. Learn the systems, operations and strategies. Master them for free or while getting paid, then go out on your own and do it.

    They are requiring degrees for even mediocre positions at a company. The days of learning and working your way up the ladder out of high-school are dwindling.

    I think college is still a good experience as long as the parent continues to provide input and force critical thinking. Indoctrination and hivemind thought are definitely an issue plaguing most campuses.
     
    My heart breaks that your daughter has to make this sort of decision.

    Submit the exemption.

    But……

    Either the reasons for doing so are sincere and long held or they are not.

    The more people comply the longer this goes on and the more will be mandated.

    The fix is saying “No” and sticking to it.

    Caving only fucks those with conviction.
     
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    While I 100% agree that a degree from ANY college in general and the big name's in particular (I despise the fucking ring kissers) is rather meaningless unless you are at some reunion or hitting on some Ivy league pussy, I disagree that the degree has zero worth otherwise.
    There are LOTS of jobs (think engineering, for one) you will not EVER be considered for at all without that degree. In my position, I am not going to take the time to teach some new kid statics (for example) just because they decided to not go to college.

    EDIT: There is not a degree from any school any where on Earf that is worth the clot shot.
    There are tons of jobs that are held hostage for a bachelors degree. Any bachelors degree, it doesn't have to be related to the field. You just have to prove you have paid the ransom to work the job. Others mostly government jobs have pay scales. They will hire two people to do the exact same job, but the pay scale for a bachelors is almost double.

    Guaranteed student loans is a big commie funding scheme. The push to hold jobs away from people with out degrees is a big part of that plan.

    I think most kids waste their early adulthood learning to be lazy at college. Also good for the commies.
     
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    They are requiring degrees for even mediocre positions at a company. The days of learning and working your way up the ladder out of high-school are dwindling.

    I think college is still a good experience as long as the parent continues to provide input and force critical thinking. Indoctrination and hivemind thought are definitely an issue plaguing most campuses.

    In certain industries and certain companies, you are absolutely correct. But Tesla will hire and engineer without a degree if they know their stuff. If you can sell something well, you will always have a job. If you can get lots of peoples attention, you will be paid well. If you provide a beneficial service, you will make lots of money. Hell, these days just showing up puts you above 80% of the population.

    IMO, college teaches you how to be a worker for someone else. Not a thinker or an entrepreneur. They are programming you to work for a wage and think a certain way. "We place 90% of our graduates in positions that pay 60k or more."

    I graduated from a prestigious school. It was a joke. I'd be embarrassed to admit some of the things I got away with while "studying" there.
     
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    I am not a lab rat!! It's still an Emergency Use Authorization concoction. Here's a long list of the side effects up to and including death.
    Sincerely
    Citizen of a somewhat free country.
     
    Come to Louisiana. My wife works for a state university, my son works for another state university, and my daughter attends yet another state university. None of them have had the death-stab. They tried with my daughter, but she filed a religious exemption, and that was the end of it.
    DO NOT let your daughter get that jab...period.
     
    My heart breaks that your daughter has to make this sort of decision.

    Submit the exemption.

    But……

    Either the reasons for doing so are sincere and long held or they are not.

    The more people comply the longer this goes on and the more will be mandated.

    The fix is saying “No” and sticking to it.

    Caving only fucks those with conviction.
    Agreed, but at what cost to the young people who are trying to start their lives. It's a mother fucker of a decision. Until this country comes together and holds it's leadership accountable nothing will change.
     
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    Agreed, but at what cost to the young people who are trying to start their lives. It's a mother fucker of a decision. Until this country comes together and holds it's leadership accountable nothing will change.
    It’s a very easy decision my man although one that comes or should come with great animosity and contempt towards gov’t and its men.

    The problem isn’t just with leadership. It also lies with the millions working underneath them to force their evil onto the rest of us. Same goes for any organization that takes our stolen money and complies.
     
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    I won't allow her to go if they don't provide the exemption. No college is worth the (unknown) potential side effects of that vaccine
    Is she on board with that decision.
     
    They are requiring degrees for even mediocre positions at a company. The days of learning and working your way up the ladder out of high-school are dwindling.

    I think college is still a good experience as long as the parent continues to provide input and force critical thinking. Indoctrination and hivemind thought are definitely an issue plaguing most campuses.
    Depending on where you work and what you do.

    I am a pretty big Mike Rowe fan, like his position on "the trades", don't know his political position and it is not really part of the picture.

    He has a "poster child" of a person that his foundation helped through trade schools. Cute girl, and a girl if you know what I mean. She is a welder, got out of school zero debt and walked into an $80k a year right out of school. He has others like that as well electricians, plumbers....all the jobs that are really in demand. You can't get past well who is going to build it when you talk about anything.....someone is going to have to put nail to wood.

    I also like how he talks of these being the "looser" jobs. How not going to college is a failure, agree with that as well. Why are these jobs where you work seen that way......you all know the answers to all of this.

    There are people out there that like to work, like doing something with their hands, my son is like this. Never seen him so misrable as when he had to work on an excel sheet, pure torture.
     
    It's a great opportunity for the young lady to step into creating a research paper, something all colleges live and breathe by. Recommend she do it in APA format, citations and all, use their own system to show their points on the need and benefit for the vaccine, especially in young adults, are disproven. The information and studies are out there, Israel has a few showing the dangers and lack of efficacy of the shots. The hardest part will be getting past the Google algorithms that hides the information when searching for it, so recommend DuckDuckGo or similar to do the searches.

    On college in general, that's a whole different can of worms and not really beneficial to the OP at this time. I'll just say my college dropout ass makes a fair bit more than my wife with MA/MS/Ph.D on her business card. It's not just the education though, it's more the field one goes into and the supply/demand of those working in the field, etc. In mine we can't hire enough, in her's it's flooded with graduates. But, we're both happy in our chosen occupations and make a good living, especially combined, so the rest is virtually irrelevant.
     
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    The military got rid of the vaccine mandate. I would just write the essay saying if its good enough to get rid of it for the military, it should be good enough to get rid of it at this university.
     
    The military got rid of the vaccine mandate. I would just write the essay saying if its good enough to get rid of it for the military, it should be good enough to get rid of it at this university.
    They didn’t get rid of shit, Congress got rid of it. DoD was very happy having the mandate.
     
    Depending on where you work and what you do.

    I am a pretty big Mike Rowe fan, like his position on "the trades", don't know his political position and it is not really part of the picture.

    He has a "poster child" of a person that his foundation helped through trade schools. Cute girl, and a girl if you know what I mean. She is a welder, got out of school zero debt and walked into an $80k a year right out of school. He has others like that as well electricians, plumbers....all the jobs that are really in demand. You can't get past well who is going to build it when you talk about anything.....someone is going to have to put nail to wood.

    I also like how he talks of these being the "looser" jobs. How not going to college is a failure, agree with that as well. Why are these jobs where you work seen that way......you all know the answers to all of this.

    There are people out there that like to work, like doing something with their hands, my son is like this. Never seen him so misrable as when he had to work on an excel sheet, pure torture.

    At some point I'm hoping to have wood working as a hobby when time permits but the trades definitely have a lot of value.
     
    In certain industries and certain companies, you are absolutely correct. But Tesla will hire and engineer without a degree if they know their stuff. If you can sell something well, you will always have a job. If you can get lots of peoples attention, you will be paid well. If you provide a beneficial service, you will make lots of money. Hell, these days just showing up puts you above 80% of the population.

    IMO, college teaches you how to be a worker for someone else. Not a thinker or an entrepreneur. They are programming you to work for a wage and think a certain way. "We place 90% of our graduates in positions that pay 60k or more."

    I graduated from a prestigious school. It was a joke. I'd be embarrassed to admit some of the things I got away with while "studying" there.

    Correct, maybe I'm biased based on the field I'm in but they are even requiring technicians to have a bachelor's now for new hires. It's honestly getting ridiculous.
     
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    At some point I'm hoping to have wood working as a hobby when time permits but the trades definitely have a lot of value.

    They really do, and so many people have zero clue what to do. I think I have told this story before....but anyhoo.

    Story time.

    I have a buddy, smart guy not smart about anything around the home. In casual talking over lunch he said he had to have a plumber out the other day, cost X. Really what went wrong, something that was suppose to go down came back up? Nope the toilet would not stop running. Ahh nothing else, nope was costing money. That is such an easy fix.....for you it is. No it is really easy for anyone, go on youtube and look up three videos, they will all say about the same thing, just do that and if you get stuck holler at me.

    I am building a loft for my shop, as well as finally running power to my barn, so lots of nails and screws as well as some copper.....good god wire is expensive.... Told him if he wants to come out and "help" he is welcome, might learn a thing or two.....he wants to.....provided there is not a Chiefs game on. Guess what is important to you, whatever.

    I talked on another thread about setting up a solar/wind power setup. Building it all myself, well buying the solar cells, the turbine I already had from when I was racing, used it on the back of the motorhome to charge the batteries....always windy at race tracks, worked well and I was easy to find, look for the RV with the windmill sticking up.

    So the batteries, charge controllers, wire, building the mounts for the solar cells, doing all of that, and I am having fun and learning stuff along the way.

    Point is another guy asked me how do you know all this stuff, never really thought about it before, I really don't know. I guess it is all the little things I learned on the blue marble. I was always one to take stuff apart.
     
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    Agreed, but at what cost to the young people who are trying to start their lives. It's a mother fucker of a decision. Until this country comes together and holds it's leadership accountable nothing will change.
    What if the cost of the education is death.

    I hate to say it but there are a lot of strange happenings these days,
     
    They really do, and so many people have zero clue what to do. I think I have told this story before....but anyhoo.

    Story time.

    I have a buddy, smart guy not smart about anything around the home. In casual talking over lunch he said he had to have a plumber out the other day, cost X. Really what went wrong, something that was suppose to go down came back up? Nope the toilet would not stop running. Ahh nothing else, nope was costing money. That is such an easy fix.....for you it is. No it is really easy for anyone, go on youtube and look up three videos, they will all say about the same thing, just do that and if you get stuck holler at me.

    I am building a loft for my shop, as well as finally running power to my barn, so lots of nails and screws as well as some copper.....good god wire is expensive.... Told him if he wants to come out and "help" he is welcome, might learn a thing or two.....he wants to.....provided there is not a Chiefs game on. Guess what is important to you, whatever.

    I talked on another thread about setting up a solar/wind power setup. Building it all myself, well buying the solar cells, the turbine I already had from when I was racing, used it on the back of the motorhome to charge the batteries....always windy at race tracks, worked well and I was easy to find, look for the RV with the windmill sticking up.

    So the batteries, charge controllers, wire, building the mounts for the solar cells, doing all of that, and I am having fun and learning stuff along the way.

    Point is another guy asked me how do you know all this stuff, never really thought about it before, I really don't know. I guess it is all the little things I learned on the blue marble. I was always one to take stuff apart.

    I try to do things myself when time permits minus two things...electricity (not including simple things) and anything two stories and above. Gives you a similar satisfaction as building (assembling) your own rifle.
     
    I try to do things myself when time permits minus two things...electricity (not including simple things) and anything two stories and above. Gives you a similar satisfaction as building (assembling) your own rifle.

    I always wanted to try that, but in "building" your own rifle.....I need to qualify that for a sec. I see doing one of those black powder kits where you have a hunk of wood in somewhat shape of a stock and metal bits that look like they belong in a rifle as taking "skill", to make it look good. I have little doubt I could not screw it together and have it work in a safe manner, but I doubt I would show it to anyone as it would not be "pretty".

    Screwing together black rifles is in the same line (to me) as screwing parts on a 10/22 any idiot can do it, and there is no skill required. Just my feelings on that bet I will take heat for that, save it you will not change my mind.

    You do get so much out of doing it yourself, inlaws are "harping" on the wife about me doing the loft, hire it done you have the money, buy a storage shed or one of those cargo containers....no no NO. I want to make it myself. There is something there beyond the end result.
     
    I always wanted to try that, but in "building" your own rifle.....I need to qualify that for a sec. I see doing one of those black powder kits where you have a hunk of wood in somewhat shape of a stock and metal bits that look like they belong in a rifle as taking "skill", to make it look good. I have little doubt I could not screw it together and have it work in a safe manner, but I doubt I would show it to anyone as it would not be "pretty".

    Screwing together black rifles is in the same line (to me) as screwing parts on a 10/22 any idiot can do it, and there is no skill required. Just my feelings on that bet I will take heat for that, save it you will not change my mind.

    You do get so much out of doing it yourself, inlaws are "harping" on the wife about me doing the loft, hire it done you have the money, buy a storage shed or one of those cargo containers....no no NO. I want to make it myself. There is something there beyond the end result.
    Yea thats why I put assembling in parentheses. I'm eventually going to grab an AK parts kit (hoping for prices to drop a little) where there is a small amount of work you have to do. I would like to learn how to weld at some point and actually re-weld a kit at some point.

    I can't wait to get a bigger garage (or out building) so I can build all the work tables. That's going to be fun and a great de-stressing activity after work.
     
    Yea thats why I put assembling in parentheses. I'm eventually going to grab an AK parts kit (hoping for prices to drop a little) where there is a small amount of work you have to do. I would like to learn how to weld at some point and actually re-weld a kit at some point.

    I can't wait to get a bigger garage (or out building) so I can build all the work tables. That's going to be fun and a great de-stressing activity after work.
    It is trust me.