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If 2023 is anything like 2022 maybe “The Non-Bindinary” action
Now I kind of want to wait and see how this lightweight action pans out, might be more what I need for a hunter. Sure would be nice to see a 3 position safety/locking bolt as an option on a lightweight hunting action.
Having Italian roots , I am also a little bit crossed when French language strikes a hit into English and not Italian. Personally I would have taken a flight and chained myself against your door until you d given me my New CDG ( the acronym eases the pain) if you would have called it something like “Misericordia“. It is more or less the same concept but was the name we gave to short daggers or stilettos
Were used to killed unhorsed knights through visors or plate armours elements. The dictionary usually reports the man of the street common meaning that is “mercifulness“ so you would have hidden the nasty side under the carpet even more. It’s not short, and is not easy to acronymize, I know… but it’s sweetly nasty.
This thread is initially addressed to the people of earth. Some of you should learn basic geometry while others financial management skills. For those with neither earthly skills, please refrain from posting. It's Ted's action, you can buy one by paying a monetary settlement of whatever he assesses to the production costs and his desired margins. He can charge what he wants. He can call it what he wants. It's his. That said, I'll gladly pay him, but it's still his engineering and his time for a product we can enjoy and hopefully never need. Hats off, as with all ARC products, there's nothing better at this time.
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I expect all build threads based on this action to read something like; “Plotting my coup” or “the coup was successful”.
Is it ok to tell the world that coup de grace is properly pronounced like “you da boss” and not poop d’bah? I can’t wait to go to Altus and hear 200 Florida crackers trying to speak French. 
I have one of these mysterious actions as a lightweight rifle.
1952 Win Model 70 Featherweight.
in for two. my ARC addiction didnt need this, but it did
I'd like to be on the list to preorder if and when this happens.
I already have a Nuc 1.5 in 6mm Creed. Looking to build another rifle for fun in .223 (I think)
For $100 would it make more sense to just go with another Nuc over this? Aesthetically I really like this offering though.
For $100 would it make more sense to just go with another Nuc over this? Aesthetically I really like this offering though.
I like the name - keep it. Bunch of insecure snowflakes that need the writing on their rifle to make them feel like more of a badass than they’ll ever be…
1. It's French
2. it's French
3. its long winded
Latin ok, greek sure, even norse, but French?
French are most known for smoking fags and Surrendering.
While it may very well be the proverbial "Coup De Grace" or even the "Pièce de résistance" that doesnt exactly strike as a fitting name for a bad ass American made firearm and engineering work of art. typical nomenclature being summed up in one word. Nucleus, Archimedes, mousingfield, etc. normally not a phrase or saying.
I digress, this is your baby. call it whatever you you like. the action makes the name, the name doesnt make the action. I already have 2 of your actions and a silly name wont keep me from another. even if it is in French.
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If fun is what you're looking for then yes 223 is what you want.
Why do we care what the name is or it's etymology? As long as it's a good, reliable action that's well supported I'll buy one.
If it bothers you that much just call it the CDG.
If it bothers you that much just call it the CDG.
Maybe it could be renamed " Mow de Lawn".
I personally like the name, tbh. I've talked to the ARC guys and a few barrel makers and it seems like some buzz has already started. I know Josh with PVA will be making prefits and the guys at Preferred Barrels said they will as well and if you want to have them make you one pre-emptively, if you put CDG in the comments for the barrel, they'll have it made once they get the tenon print from Ted. Or that's what I was told yesterday. I'm sure guys like Straight jacket will hop on this soon after launch as well so we'll have access to benchmark, bartlein, proof, etc.
Gotta say the name is clunky. I'm all for a creative name, but that particular expression seems an odd choice, ripe for wide interpretation. Carroll Shelby famously said about naming of the GT350, "The name wouldn’t make the car, and if it is a bad car, the name won’t save it.”
If you're feeling an affectation to our nation's first ally, how about the Rapier or Sabre? Hell, it's a three lug - how about ménage à trois?
FYI
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Ted has linked this thread to his website for potential customers to receive additional information.
I might be wrong here but I think Ted would prolly appreciate it if we kept the talk positive about action and not worry about the name. We don't control that Ted does and he decided already. Let's not derail this thread just in case people are actually looking for info on the new action or price ect.
Not trying to Start anything
Not trying to Start anything
Ted;
a) Your heritage is Greek, not French, and Greek history is ripe with names. E.g., you used Xylo (wood) to name your stock. Aside: you won't see Ferrari naming one of its cars with a French word or term. Speaking of Enzo Ferrari: if you want to be clever, name it Zeno. (Enzo; Zeno; get it?) Besides, Zeno (of Citium) is the name of a Greek philosopher and founder of the Stoic school. ETA: in a similar theme, there's Zeta (a Greek letter).
b) How about Zenith? ("When you reach the zenith, you're at the top, the pinnacle, the summit, the peak.")
c) How about XOR? (Pronounced eks-or) -- goes with Xylo -- XOR is a digital logic operator. But nobody would care about that. Instead, think of it as the X spot on the ten ring (denoted by the O) -- hence its nickname, X-O
I wish you all the best, Ted.
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Jim K.
Reno, Nevada
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Naming the action after a sex act is probably not in the cards!
Teds prob reading this thinking "and I'm considering doing a pre order for these retards...".
I've not done anything long action before and this seems like a good action to start with but I have some questions.
The information page on this says AW mags prefered but not 100% needed, I'm going to assume this is just for the short actions, correct? If not, would the hard stop mentioned be needed sssf mags?
There was no mention of this is going to be a CIP length, but again can I assume it will be since all other ARC actions are? I would like a 300PRC and I'm really only seeing CIP length mags for it. Also the MDT HNT26 has a CIP mag length magwell only in long action 700.
I need more help understanding the trigger adjustment. I plan on using a two stage trigger so is this going to be something for me to worry about? I figure the first stage will absorb any of the "bump."
It seems most everything else is similar to that of a short action.
The information page on this says AW mags prefered but not 100% needed, I'm going to assume this is just for the short actions, correct? If not, would the hard stop mentioned be needed sssf mags?
There was no mention of this is going to be a CIP length, but again can I assume it will be since all other ARC actions are? I would like a 300PRC and I'm really only seeing CIP length mags for it. Also the MDT HNT26 has a CIP mag length magwell only in long action 700.
I need more help understanding the trigger adjustment. I plan on using a two stage trigger so is this going to be something for me to worry about? I figure the first stage will absorb any of the "bump."
It seems most everything else is similar to that of a short action.
As far as i know, since all ARC long actions take CIP mags, i dont see this being any different. And the AW is more for smaller/short action rounds, which is also the need for the conical breech for proper feeding. Ted said that isn't needed for larger/magnum rounds because it's not hard to find a larger hole.
So this far my assumptions are correct, thanks.
Now about that trigger adjustment.
Nice!!! Great to see another well designed and executed American made product. Thank you sir for your mech e contributions to our shared rifle passions.
See post 278 on pg 6, where Ted gave great details on the trigger hanger.
Post in thread 'Coup De Grâce, New Action from American Rifle Company, $899 WOW!'
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...n-rifle-company-899-wow.7155247/post-10666961
Zenith was a TV I think and xor is a pronoun these days.
Also a remains to be a Swiss luxury watch brand. Thought we were all richy rich here.
Hi, Ted - please tell us about the materials being used for the receiver body and bolt, including RC. Thanks.
@karagias I like the idea of being able to run a 338 Norma mag for hunting on a carbon barrel and a 33 XC for ELR work. Since the long action comes in the Lapua bolt-face I have some questions.
1. how long is the ejection port?
2. I am thinking 33 XC for caliber, which means I would need to single feed. How well would this CRF action single-feed a round that would likely be 4.00" in length or more?
3. Is the tenon thread the same between long action and short action.
1. how long is the ejection port?
2. I am thinking 33 XC for caliber, which means I would need to single feed. How well would this CRF action single-feed a round that would likely be 4.00" in length or more?
3. Is the tenon thread the same between long action and short action.
I am also thinking about building a 33xc off of this action.
It is clear some thought went into this… Tenon print for example. I am impressed.
I did and all it showed me was my ignorance of how the 700 works, so I did some research. I do not have a 700 currently to see it first hand so i had to watch some animations.
Best I can tell, is that when the bolt is closed hard and fast on a light trigger the sear will bump down allowing the cocking mechanism to to move forward and having a dead rifle with a loaded round. Do I understand that correctly?
If so, then a two stage trigger should absorb that downward force of the sear in the first stage on a normal action but can be adjusted forward and back tohelp with this.
I think it is something that I would easily understand if I had it in my hand.
You’re on the wrong track. The adjustability in the hanger is to control how far forward/back the U-shaped cocking piece on the bolt engages the sear at the top of the trigger assembly. If the two make contact before the bolt is fully forward, the last bit of forward motion in the bolt will cock the firing pin an additional amount (cock on close). The feeling in the bolt when this happens is undesirable for people who don’t run the bolt fast. Being adjustable allows tailoring of the sear/cocking piece engagement timing, hopefully cutting down on the complaints Ted hears.
There should never be a time when the cocking piece misses the sear, no matter whether your trigger is single or 2 stage.
I might have missed it but can this run on non CIP length LA aics mags?
It'd be brilliant of Ted to design adjustable pin fall into an action with the same adjustable hanger, you could properly time the action simply without machining. I mean you can adjust firing pin protrusion on the nucleus g2. The man is quite innovative!
