When the cocking piece misses the sear you don’t have dead rifle and a loaded chamber. You have a bang and potentially a bad day.
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Thanks, that makes sense.
Ok, i was thinking the firing pin would drop before you could get the bolt close enough to cause that but i may still be thinking incorrectly about the way the two parts interface.
This is the animation I watched and now that you have enlightened me I can kind of see it at about the 3 minute mark it looks like it pushed back on the cocking piece a little.
Very nice.
I have 3x Archimedes and really like them-- super smooth and fast actions. The only real negative to them IMO is you can easily launch some of the small parts when disassembling the bolt if you aren't careful, and you need a couple of tools to disassemble and reassemble the bolt-- so it's not quick and easy to swap bolt heads like on the Nucleus (Not an issue for me as I don't swap bolt heads on my Archimedes, but can see it being a pain if you were the type to have a single action and multiple barrels that required different bolt heads and wanted to swap between them at the range.)
Looks like on the new action the bias spring for the pivoting bolt handle is separate from the firing pin spring (unlike the Archimedes where the firing pin spring also serves as the spring for the pivoting bolt handle) so the firing pin shroud and firing pin can easily be removed as an assembly without tools to quickly and easily swap the bolt head like a Nucleus should you desire.
The adjustable trigger hangar is a nice touch and saves you from having to buy extra cocking pieces to tune your particular trigger.
Being able to swap from the pivoting bolt handle to a standard camming bolt handle is unexpected and a really cool idea that will appeal to people who for some reason don't like the pivoting bolt handle or run super light triggers that don't play nice with the pivoting bolt handle.
I'll also echo what others have said, the overall styling of the action looks great.
Looking forward to the video showing the details of the new action.
Now, what new caliber do I need to build another rifle in?
I have 3x Archimedes and really like them-- super smooth and fast actions. The only real negative to them IMO is you can easily launch some of the small parts when disassembling the bolt if you aren't careful, and you need a couple of tools to disassemble and reassemble the bolt-- so it's not quick and easy to swap bolt heads like on the Nucleus (Not an issue for me as I don't swap bolt heads on my Archimedes, but can see it being a pain if you were the type to have a single action and multiple barrels that required different bolt heads and wanted to swap between them at the range.)
Looks like on the new action the bias spring for the pivoting bolt handle is separate from the firing pin spring (unlike the Archimedes where the firing pin spring also serves as the spring for the pivoting bolt handle) so the firing pin shroud and firing pin can easily be removed as an assembly without tools to quickly and easily swap the bolt head like a Nucleus should you desire.
The adjustable trigger hangar is a nice touch and saves you from having to buy extra cocking pieces to tune your particular trigger.
Being able to swap from the pivoting bolt handle to a standard camming bolt handle is unexpected and a really cool idea that will appeal to people who for some reason don't like the pivoting bolt handle or run super light triggers that don't play nice with the pivoting bolt handle.
I'll also echo what others have said, the overall styling of the action looks great.
Looking forward to the video showing the details of the new action.
Now, what new caliber do I need to build another rifle in?
I hope that I can buy a 16 pound spring for the CDG like I do for my Nukes should I chose to run it in the conventional manner. I hate that damn 23 pound spring the Nukes come with. It takes a sweet action a degrades it IMO. A $10 spring swap and it’s a completely different animal, just like my original Nuke. The 19 on the Archimedes is doable since the extraction is separate from the cocking.
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I interpreted that as standard orders, not pre orders. I could be completely wrong.
Who would be a source for a .223 barrel for this action?
Gotcha. I didn't, because it mentioned the introductory price earlier.
I understand that there may not be a pre-order. But if there is. I'd be willing to pay upfront.
@bohem and Patriot Valley Arms is my go to for all of your pre-fit barrel needs. I have one of his OBW 223 pre-fit in my Archimedes and is a laser with Fed. 77 SMK factory ammo.
PVA is already working on those prefits. They posted an Instagram photo of a barrel tenon for it.
Yup, PVA and preferred barrels are both working on prefits for this now
I have have a hard time trusting PVA after the Hancock issues I experienced, but I will give them another shot I guess seeing as they made it right in the end
It would be nice to see X-caliber barrels in on this list. they also make carbon wrapped.
Awesome!!! I will likely purchase a reamer when I do so I can spin up my own barrels as needed.
I'm ready to order one of these!
I suspect it is unlikely that Ted will offer one as purchased from him, but it will be easy enough to replace the factory knob with anything you want to after the fact. It’s a simple threaded knob.
We made some already for prototypes and I shot one of the early action prototypes. If SN #2 is any indicator this is gonna be a walk off home run for ARC. I was bugging Ted yesterday to get me a beta prototype and also finalize the tenon print so we can get ahead with some RTS prefits so that folks can have pipes waiting for the action to arrive. I think it's got some really fantastic features.
Savage small shank.
I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. It was not said that AICS mags would not work without mods. Here’s what it said:
ATX chassis has a removable rear mag stop that'd work excellent with this action and aics mags.
"An optional forward hard stop...." is what I was referencing. This is a modification of some sort.
I wonder how a hawkins or similar bottom metal would work, given a "hard stop" would be necessary to keep the bolt from hitting the mag.
Is it wrong that every time I walk down the cupboard and drawer knob isle in the big box store I think of ARC bolt knobs?
How about this one. Wife had to have it. Kind of blends in if not paying attention.
Speaking of the wife, she caught me looking at photos of the CDG action and said “Your penis is hard right now isn’t it?” It was like I got caught watching porn.
Something else to keep in mind is that the ARC aics mags have shortened feed lips. So if it’s just the forward tips of the AICS feed lips that hit, ARC mags might not hit at all.
I will deny it but I may have felt the same way about the CDG…
One of my old service managers is the smartest guy I’ve known working on cars(Mercedes in particular) and was a workaholic. We used to joke that he probably spreads a wiring diagram on his wife’s back if they’re doing it doggystle
not gonna sugar coat it, thats a little creepy. where do you even get something like that?
somebody photoshop that on the GDC.
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hahaha....and here I was thinking they reminded me of the legs on my grandmother's couch! haha
Wow! I "was" looking for a lightweight action for an Ultra light weight hunting ELR MPR... but this gets me. If I'm gonna add a half pound to my build, I guess it will have to be the action. Can't wait!
Seriously thinking of grabbing one of these to drop in an Eliseo RTM… would be a great setup
Name the action Belle Jeune Fille and some aftermarket CNC whiz needs to make a boob bolt knob STAT
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can we get a felipe head bolt handle
Maybe a special naming joke run along these lines?
But seriously, nice action. I friggin’ LOVE ARC rings!
But seriously, nice action. I friggin’ LOVE ARC rings!
I'm not sure what that would look like maybe just add a neck beard to the baby head above
In an attempt to get this place back on track.
1) I'm very much looking forward to Ted doing a video explanation of the actions various features as I'm not smart enough to follow his written description. I'm a visual learner. The video he did back when the M5 was released was great
2) I hope the "pre-order" thing happens to secure a LA at introductory price.
1) I'm very much looking forward to Ted doing a video explanation of the actions various features as I'm not smart enough to follow his written description. I'm a visual learner. The video he did back when the M5 was released was great
2) I hope the "pre-order" thing happens to secure a LA at introductory price.
I just want to chime in on the introductory price. All the configurations of actions will be able to be purchased while the introductory price is in effect. Just know that the longs and left hand actions will take a little longer to get, so just be patient.
