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Anybody have any insider knowledge on when and if we are ever going to see primers again. It seems like powder and other components are slowly getting more available but primers not so much
 
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Yes, I convened with the inner council and we have decided that primers have been generally available for some time now, you just have to be willing to pay for them

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I'm in the same boat.

I ended up pretty much giving away about ~2,000 FGMM large rifle primers, as I wasn't doing anything with them at the time. Kicking myself for that now.

I have a lot of small rifle primers, and some large magnum primers, but no regular large rifle primers. I was planning on making some reloads for my hunting rifle with some leftover Prime/Norma brass I have, but may have to buy some SRP brass, or steal some brass from my match 6.5 Creedmoor.
 
Yes, I convened with the inner council and we have decided that primers have been generally available for some time now, you just have to be willing to pay for them

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hopefully they start making their way up to Canada...frick
 



Bull on Midsouth......and Midway USA.....been looking to them for primers (210M, BR2 and WSR) for a LONG time with no success. Here I am in January 2023 slowly running out of my pre-Covid stock and getting worried.

THE ONLY people I find with primers in stock are selling them cheap and are FRAUDS.

The pages at Midway and Midsouth are COVERED with UNAVAILABLE, OUT OF STOCK, etc.
 
Bull on Midsouth......and Midway USA.....been looking to them for primers (210M, BR2 and WSR) for a LONG time with no success. Here I am in January 2023 slowly running out of my pre-Covid stock and getting worried.

THE ONLY people I find with primers in stock are selling them cheap and are FRAUDS.

The pages at Midway and Midsouth are COVERED with UNAVAILABLE, OUT OF STOCK, etc.

Have to check daily or several times a day even, when primers are in stock they move fast. There have been no sign yet of the inventory increasing and no signs at all of any prices dropping under $95/1,000 which seems to be what Brownells charges at the low end but with a limit of 2,000.
 
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Anybody have any insider knowledge on when and if we are ever going to see primers again. It seems like powder and other components are slowly getting more available but primers not so much
Concur. Seems the only sites stocking lots of primers, cheap no less, are SCAMMERS. (If they don't take credit cards, stay away, folks).

I've been searching for CCI BR2, Fed GM210M, and Win WSR for some time now, getting on wait lists etc, with NO luck. Beginning to sweat it, my pre-Covid stocks are slowly depleting.

Granted, it was FOREVER seeing VARGET powder available, but now Midsouth and/or Midway has it in stock........but no luck yet on primers.

Is it time to assume a Conspiracy Theory. What say YOU, ATF???
 
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Have to check daily or several times a day even, when primers are in stock they move fast. There have been no sign yet of the inventory increasing and no signs at all of any prices dropping under $95/1,000 which seems to be what Brownells charges at the low end but with a limit of 2,000.
Thanks your reply! I'm an old coot, not too tech savvy, but guess I'm going to have to invest in frequent visits to my computer or phone. THAT was the same with the powder at first. It should be criminal to have to fuss with all this when simply learning how to best use my Strelok Pro for multiple rifles without confusing data is enough fun!
 
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My LGS here in central La has been gradually getting more and more primers and powder in stock. They have pretty much all the standard CCi primers in stock rt now for 90$ a thousand.
 
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I'm seeing them in a few stores periodically, usually around 80-90$ per 1k and at gun shows but gun show prices vary from $90 to $160 (guess who has more on their table and a sour look on their faces!) Same deal with powder, some of these gun show guys will be holding stock for a long time.
I'm fine with paying $90 for primers and $40-$50 for a pound of powder because that's the way it is now but some of these guy's prices .....
 
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My LGS here in central La has been gradually getting more and more primers and powder in stock. They have pretty much all the standard CCi primers in stock rt now for 90$ a thousand.
Did everyone see your post and clean LGS out before I got online tonight? ALL I see is the dreaded OUT OF STOCK for almost all primers.

Thanks anyway. Might try their standby service.
 
Natchez SS has quite a few small pistol and small rifle primers in stock currently
 
I have been buying primers on Gunbrokers. You have to pay between $19 and $50 shipping for each order. The more you buy at a time the cheaper they are. You can buy one brick for $130 to $190 shipped or buy 5 brick lots for $500 shipped.
 
Anybody have any insider knowledge on when and if we are ever going to see primers again. It seems like powder and other components are slowly getting more available but primers not so much

I see them every day - 18k sitting on my shelf.
 
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So I just picked up a 300 win mag to hunt with next year and magnum primers around here are basically the Holy grail. Has anyone used standard large rifle in a 300 win mag to reasonable results? Just trying to get a few rounds spun up and tested for hunting season.
 
So I just picked up a 300 win mag to hunt with next year and magnum primers around here are basically the Holy grail. Has anyone used standard large rifle in a 300 win mag to reasonable results? Just trying to get a few rounds spun up and tested for hunting season.

Standard primers work well with most stick powders in the 300wm. You might not get the same accuracy. You might get better ES. It just depends.
 
So I just picked up a 300 win mag to hunt with next year and magnum primers around here are basically the Holy grail. Has anyone used standard large rifle in a 300 win mag to reasonable results? Just trying to get a few rounds spun up and tested for hunting season.

I use exclusively BR2 primers in my 300 PRC.
 
My problem, when I buy more primers, I immediately run the math and say, well I just bought 2k more SRP, so I need 2k more 77 gr freedom seeds, and 8 more pounds of gold dust to even out the usable component inventory.
The cycle never ends.

why i have 200+ lbs of powder!!! hahaha.. when the going is good, get it!!
 
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I have been monitoring threads and articles since 2020 regarding the primer and powder shortages. While I appreciate all the companies that manufacture components for this great art/hobby of handloading, I am disappointed that they have not provided more frequent updates (if any) to their customers.

Early editorials covered the increase to $60/1000 for primers; labeling sellers as 'brazen scalpers' doubling prices and even worse on sites like GunBroker. Now at $100/1000 or more, are the manufacturers or retailers now the 'scalpers'? Or is there another reason such as component price increases or workforce shortages? Perhaps inflation has contributed somewhat to the price increase; but at a rate of 400% over the last few years? I think not, but I don't know because the manufacturers aren't communicating with their customers.

I am not uninformed regarding the effects of supply and demand, so my diatribe above is somewhat tounge in cheek, but I still think the industry owes their customer base some direct answers. Months went by when several major retailers received ZERO supply, by their own admission, yet powder and primer companies claimed they were manufacturing a maximum capacity and still shipping. The products 'must have just been sold out'. This is not possible with in-stock alerts even if one doesn't make it to the website in time to purchase.

With thousands of members here at SH, I am wondering if someone out there has close ties with either powder or primer companies that can offer some perspective. Or, at a minimum, let their companies know that there are quite a few consumers out here that are unhappy with the lack of transparency and communication.
 
I have been monitoring threads and articles since 2020 regarding the primer and powder shortages. While I appreciate all the companies that manufacture components for this great art/hobby of handloading, I am disappointed that they have not provided more frequent updates (if any) to their customers.

Early editorials covered the increase to $60/1000 for primers; labeling sellers as 'brazen scalpers' doubling prices and even worse on sites like GunBroker. Now at $100/1000 or more, are the manufacturers or retailers now the 'scalpers'? Or is there another reason such as component price increases or workforce shortages? Perhaps inflation has contributed somewhat to the price increase; but at a rate of 400% over the last few years? I think not, but I don't know because the manufacturers aren't communicating with their customers.

I am not uninformed regarding the effects of supply and demand, so my diatribe above is somewhat tounge in cheek, but I still think the industry owes their customer base some direct answers. Months went by when several major retailers received ZERO supply, by their own admission, yet powder and primer companies claimed they were manufacturing a maximum capacity and still shipping. The products 'must have just been sold out'. This is not possible with in-stock alerts even if one doesn't make it to the website in time to purchase.

With thousands of members here at SH, I am wondering if someone out there has close ties with either powder or primer companies that can offer some perspective. Or, at a minimum, let their companies know that there are quite a few consumers out here that are unhappy with the lack of transparency and communication.
How dare you question the free market capitalist reloading supply industry.

You misunderstand free market capitalism. Someone has mislead you into thinking it is a two way street.

Yours is not to wonder why or question the gods of powder and bullets. Yours is to pay until you are told to pay more, wait until you are told to wait more.

Questioning and complaining publicly will be met with scorn and ridicule. Keep it up, we know who you are……..

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The small ammo manufacturer's are picking up the primers that the largest ammo manufacturer's can't use.
I know of two small scale ammo manufacturer's here in the valley that do just that. I'm sure there are other's within the state.
I have no affiliation with them.