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Hunting hard use action help.

Bryan W M

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Finally building my rifle .
I have a tikka I have tried in a few chassis and have decided they aren’t for me. So I’m having @LongRifles Inc. go crazy on a manners stock for me . 3D bed job , adjustable butt plate installation and comb adjust. Install a short ARCA rail.
So if I’m spending this type of money it’s getting a customer action.

Barrel Bartlein medium Palma left hand twist in the new steel. 20in finish . 6.5 manbun

Trigger tech special.

Looking at Wyatt’s box MBE-5

This rifle will be passed down to one of my boys and will be one of the rifles they grow up with.

I’m stuck on action .

For those that have used these what are the pros and cons.

Lone Peak Fuzion Alpine port.

Kelbly Nanook.

Zermatt SR3
 
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Kelbly Nanook.
The correct answers M70.
Ask Chad which action he prefers. That's the honest answer. He's touched more actions that 99.9% of the population and has spun barrels for em. His opinion matters.
 
looks like you're gonna sky feed rounds and not use a detatchable magazine. assuming that is correct, the Zermatt SR3 smaller loading/ejection port may prove difficult to load. I do not own so I cannot verify.

The Lone Peak fuzion Alpine has a nice opening to facilitate loading/unloading. same with Nanook (awesome name). I think these would be better hunting purposes.

you can also have LRI true up and love on the Rem 700 action. If you are going with DBM than I recommend Terminus Zeus. (admittedly I am a Terminus simp, but damn good actions and built like a tank)

shout out to an M70, get a Winchester 70 slap it in a Mcmillan stock (if you don't wanna rock wood) chamber it in .270 Win. ( a Man's version of 6.5 Manbun) and that would be one bad mama jama!

Anyways, hope this helps.
 
My vote would go to the lone peak or kelbly. I own an atlas tac and a fuzion. The nanook is an integral lightweight version of the atlas tac. For weight I think the nanook is tough to beat! It’s buttery smooth, super light bolt lift and close. The lone peaks are a bit more “beefy” and feel more rugged. It’s probably not the case but it definitely has that built like a tank feel. They are also super smooth!! Can’t go wrong with either. I prefer both my lone peak and my kelbly over my tl3
 
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Lone Peak Fuzion Alpine or take a look at new Impact NBK.
 
My man @Doc68 says his Kelby
Prometheus is the smoothest action he has ever felt.

But he kinda dopey. 🤣

If you are looking at the SR3, look at the Origin….
My $0.02 and worth what you paid.
Save a couple bucks. Get the same performance, just less “options”.
 
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I have the Kelbly Prometheus, and love it. I would take it over an ARC any day. R700 footprint as many others, but it is smooth as hell. No issues feeding and I'm shooting a 22BR on it. Bolt lift is easy.

Doc
 
Id want control round feed and mechanical ejection. You have bo idea how stupid and clumsy you can be when a Griz is 30y away and closing. Eliminating a double stroke or double feed that creats a jam is paramount in a hunting rifle that could see all conditions or situations. That means bighorn or arc. I really like my new bighorn Ti3.
 
Finally building my rifle .
I have a tikka I have tried in a few chassis and have decided they aren’t for me. So I’m having @LongRifles Inc. go crazy on a manners stock for me . 3D bed job , adjustable butt plate installation and comb adjust. Install a short ARCA rail.
So if I’m spending this type of money it’s getting a customer action.

Barrel Bartlein medium Palma left hand twist in the new steel. 20in finish . 6.5 manbun

Trigger tech special.

Looking at Wyatt’s box MBE-5

This rifle will be passed down to one of my boys and will be one of the rifles they grow up with.

I’m stuck on action .

For those that have used these what are the pros and cons.

Lone Peak Fuzion Alpine port.

Kelbly Nanook.

Zermatt SR3


I like to begin a conversation like this by asking: What will this rifle be used for?
 
Id want control round feed and mechanical ejection. You have bo idea how stupid and clumsy you can be when a Griz is 30y away and closing. Eliminating a double stroke or double feed that creats a jam is paramount in a hunting rifle that could see all conditions or situations. That means bighorn or arc. I really like my new bighorn Ti3.
And M70....
I would also like that in a dangerous game situation, but I have never had a problem with a push feed using a BDL type internal mag system.
 
Chad at @LongRifles Inc. has done 2 stainless winchester m70's for me. Both have McMillan Edge stocks and proof carbon barrels. One is a 20" 6.5cm and the other is a 24" 300wsm. Both are amazing.

I did get to handle a Lone Peak Ti action and it was really nice as well. So from the ones you mentioned I would go with it. But if it's a family heirloom to pass down the Win M70 is a classic.
 
@LongRifles Inc. it will be used for target shooting and hunting KS deer . Longest walk is a mile so weight isn’t that big of problem . It will see dust , snow and ice.
It will be used to teach both my boys after the .223 .
 
@LongRifles Inc. it will be used for target shooting and hunting KS deer . Longest walk is a mile so weight isn’t that big of problem . It will see dust , snow and ice.
It will be used to teach both my boys after the .223 .


Based on that, this is what comes to mind.

If you are a hand loader who doesn't mind the work that goes with it, I would offer the 6mm International as a consideration for a cartridge. If you're unfamiliar with it, don't worry. It's about as easy as it gets. Take a 22-250 and neck it up to 6mm. That's it. Buy some Redding dies in 22-250, and your set. Just bump the bushing size to what's appropriate for the larger pill.

Reasons:
  • Exceptional accuracy
  • Very moderate recoil
  • One shot kills on deer
  • Feeding is exceptionally good from an internal box or DBM
  • Control round feed and Push feed actions handle it well
  • Magazine tolerant with 100+grain pills
  • Very forgiving at the reloading bench
  • Brass availability is typically pretty good as your just buying 22-250 Remington
Cons:
  • It's a wildcat cartridge
Some will argue that there is a bolt thrust concern due to the aggressive body taper on a 22-250. I've listened to folks preach that sermon for 30 years. I still don't know exactly what they mean by it. I've yet to see a 22-250 pound a lug on a receiver or a bolt, and I've been loading for this cartridge since I was in my 20's.

If the added work at a reloading bench isn't your thing, then a 6.5mm Creedmore is a really good choice IMO. I watched a guy in WA state buy a case of it and run it through a rifle I built for him at a match. No load development or dicking around. He loaded magazines, went to work, and finished in the top 3.

Weight: Heavy rifles are easy to shoot from prone and positions using artificial support. So, if bipods and benches are applicable here, then sure; build them a 13+lb "gamer gun" and turn em loose.

Action choice. Most any receiver in a Remington footprint will work. To include a tuned-up M700. FWIW, I'm very fortunate to have a client who is in a position to spend whatever it takes, as he has done well for himself. I build quite a few rigs for him each year, and his boys got a pair of tuned-up M700's a few years ago on Christmas. They were both chambered in 6 International, and he told me they shot something north of 20 deer with them this past year. (Texas and the deer a day limit thing) This conversation was amusing as I could sense his "tone" as he groaned about being chained to the reloading bench to satisfy their appetites. My wife Kalli also has one of these that I built from scrap parts (on a bet), and it is one of the most accurate rifles in our safe at home.

If a control round feed is your thing and money is no object, an ARC Mausingfield checks the box really well. The M70 is also a great choice, but I would try to track down an F/N SPR. I kick myself for not buying a mess of them years ago when they were almost being given away. Actions like these offer one notable difference from most push feeds: the bolt shroud is positively locked in position when out of battery. This is a big deal in a dangerous game application, as a failure can literally put you on the buffet menu. The 3p safety is nice as it's easy to keep an eye on when supervising little guys.

Hope this helps, and we look forward to working with you.

C.