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and there comes a point that form factor, price and integration push it all in the same direction weather they want to go there or not
if your action isnt a 700 drop in you purposely leaving money on the table...so every one uses a 700 form factor
is it the best nope, does it work, yup... lets make 700 drop ins
Just got an email.
Watch Proof’s social media this afternoon.
The answer will be unequivocally stated.
Watch Proof’s social media this afternoon.
The answer will be unequivocally stated.
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I don’t have any other sm besides what this qualifies as.
Wait, I’m too poor to buy anything these companies sell. #lostinterest
Share email?
No.
Seems less than cool to share an email sent to an individual regarding business decisions.
Just be patient.
My bad, didn't realize you were balls deep with Proof. Thought it was an email sent via Proof's newsletter.
Im not.
I sent an email. They responded.
Not a newsletter thing
I get too many dang emails as it is.
Per Proof:
“With 100% truth and honesty, Proof is not for sale. We have been hearing the rumor as well. Our majority owner and board has had offers from big companies in the defense space over the past few years and we have always turned them down. We have made it clear, this isn’t for sale. Our CEO and I even addressed it directly with Bob Beck at SHOT show.”
“With 100% truth and honesty, Proof is not for sale. We have been hearing the rumor as well. Our majority owner and board has had offers from big companies in the defense space over the past few years and we have always turned them down. We have made it clear, this isn’t for sale. Our CEO and I even addressed it directly with Bob Beck at SHOT show.”
Damn it! Was really hoping for another shit storm then cry when I can’t buy proof prefits for a good price.
Cheer up. Maybe they’ll go after Bartlein barrels…
I was directly making a stab at gunwerx and the thought behind pushing the long range “easy button” maybe I should have been more on the nose with it.
I think you nailed it. They can forever kiss my ass and I wasn't even trying to buy a rifle.
Not me leave those benchmark barrels alone
Wouldn't citing to a competitor get me banned?
well the lack of things to be be pissed at and panic buy now is quite disappointing
Did you hear about hodgdon?
Hey, it’s me, late to the party and derailing a thread as usual (lots of major life changes in the past year so I’ve been a bit distracted w/ those). A ton of comments here about McMillan tanking after a buy out (I assume after Kelly’s passing), what’d I miss there? A TLDR is fine, or even a PM, just curious is all. 
Maybe their backlog has loosened up after all of this. My brother had a Tenacity on order that they had told him about a month ago would be finished this summer. It arrived at his dealer today.
They went from a 14 month backlog to opening retail orders within the last month.
I'm wondering if companies that use Defiance as OEM to their action have any choice in the matter. It's not like they can just buy a different action the way marking variances work. And to set up a new variance could take quite a while. So now these companies have to eat the cost or pass cost on to their customers. Otherwise not sell their own branded actions anymore.
Probably quite a few companies in this situation as Defiance seems to be the most popular OEM for branded actions.
Probably quite a few companies in this situation as Defiance seems to be the most popular OEM for branded actions.
I’ve heard a lot about how mcmillan would tank… but not so much about it actually doing it.Hey, it’s me, late to the party and derailing a thread as usual (lots of major life changes in the past year so I’ve been a bit distracted w/ those). A ton of comments here about McMillan tanking after a buy out (I assume after Kelly’s passing), what’d I miss there? A TLDR is fine, or even a PM, just curious is all.
2023 might be the year.
Several guys have inventory for a few months
Those same guys are on the phone with defiance figuring out what the plan is as well as looking for alternative actions as of last week.
GAP switched to Impact Precision NBK in some of their hunting models just this month.
I was told 5 month backlog when I put down a deposit with Defiance over 8 months ago. Still waiting.
Lose a little on every transaction, but make up,for it in volume!
Of course it did work for Amazon….
Curious if the debt servicing to acquire all those new machines will yield the scale to have them in a place where in the long run, they just dominate the market due to volume.
Regardless, I hedged my bets and went ahead and ordered another bolt with a different face for my Anti action; I want options down the road.
Waited almost a year for my Anti…did want a custom serial number, and some other add-ons though, so knew it’d be a long wait.
I ordered an action in April 2022 and was given a December 2022 delivery date. They have since changed the delivery date to March. If there had not been an ownership change, you may have lost your deposit and not have ever got an action. The new owner is going to fulfill your order. I wonder if he saw any of your deposit.
Correct but they are using Curtis in their production which also use to be Defiance.
As much as we don’t believe it it could have happened.
I still have my JAE bankruptcy letter telling me to get fucked
no honor from MDT?
i wonder if MDT accepts JAE certs we have from right before they closed shop
na I don’t think they should saddle themselves with those problems. Life’s not fair then you die, I have a tcs on order anyway. It should come by 25’ or so
i'd have thought them acquiring MDT would have included sales to date
Last I read they acquired the “designs,tools, and patents”
If they are losing money making them not making them is better
Especially if that means they are turning out more profitable models at a higher rate.
I can’t imagine they were losing money making the Tenacity if Aero Precision Solus action is at $899 with it being nitrided, 60 degree throw and integral pic rail. Time will tell, but if they were losing money on their basic action I guess who ever was doing finances wasn’t doing the best of job.
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