Every time it rains a half inch your .gov dumps trillions of gallons of raw sewage into the water.

346ci said:

The ww treatment infrastructure in some places is far behind what it should be. The millions of dollars we have sent to shit hole countries like ukraine could be going towards these badly needed upgrades.

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For a long time, the going rate for a PLANT a plant mind you, was a dollar a gallon. Lots of other factors there, but it was a good rule of thumb.
This does not address hundreds of miles of antiquated pipes. Lift stations, manholes, etc.
When I retired, we were making upgrades to deal strictly with I&I at the PLANT.
Fix the hole.
This was a 30+ million project.
Fix the hole.
One part of the project was a high flow primary clarifier 12million on its own.
Fix the hole.
Only AFTER the HRPC was nearly complete, did we, the LEAD operators learn. The only place this piece of equipment exists...and can be seen in operation...is in a drinking water plant!
Fix the hole.
My paperwork for retirement was in, and date set. So I had no fear of repercussion when I looked at my boss, and told him I would hate to be his dumb ass, when they put the HRPC on line.
Fix the hole.
Everyone knew there was a hole.
No one was allowed to talk about it, cause it was too hard and too expensive to fix. Evidently more than 30M.

Its gonna take trillions to upgrade the antiquated systems in this country.

And just to be clear. The hole was upstream influent. Not a hole dumping raw sewage in the river.
It was strictly only inundation the plant with storm water. We treated the water. No raw sewage went in the river. It did affect the efficiency of our treatment...greatly.
Some treatment is better than no treatment.

Bypassing raw sewage to the river IS bad, im not saying it isn't. One time 24 hour events aren't the end of the world.
But at some point, you have to fix it. Or at least make an effort to fix it.
If ALL the flow is going through the plant, then there is some treatment.
A city that gets in this situation is supposed to have a freeze on adding service to the system.

BurtG said:

Let’s get serious then.

Ban all fertilization of yards abd golf courses.

Oh that’s right. “That’s different “.

Lots of states have more yard acreage than crop acreage. And more wild animal pounds on hood than farm animals.


They can get their own house in order before they point fingers where they eat

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You are confused.

You say get serious, then say some stupid shit. While seemingly having an argument with yourself.

No big deal, I am sure you just want to have some juvenile argument because you are mad about something. Did you just have to spend some of your crop subside money, to pay a waste water fee?

I got a few replies in before I lost interest in reading more cause it seemed like it was just getting hostile. I wonder how much of a slant applies to the articles that don't know the difference between post treatment wastewater, and raw sewage. I'm not an expert in the matter, have never worked in wastewater treatment, or anything. The one takeaway I have is from my days in college 20+ years ago when a college professor mentioned that there was going to be a very large industry created around specialized microbes, or bacteria, that are designed to process, or 'eat' various toxins or waste products in water to be discharged back into river systems. I wouldn't say it was the early days of GMO cause I'm pretty sure GMO's have been around quite a long time. What I do know, is that in most parts of the country, the water that comes out of the tap magically anytime you want, is safe to drink....at least for now.

Branden

Son of Dorn said:

Well if Jurassic Park's taught me anything, sooner or later some of those frogs will turn male and then there'll be baby velociraptors in the park.

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Life.....finds a way.

Short-bus said:

I got a few replies in before I lost interest in reading more cause it seemed like it was just getting hostile. I wonder how much of a slant applies to the articles that don't know the difference between post treatment wastewater, and raw sewage. I'm not an expert in the matter, have never worked in wastewater treatment, or anything. The one takeaway I have is from my days in college 20+ years ago when a college professor mentioned that there was going to be a very large industry created around specialized microbes, or bacteria, that are designed to process, or 'eat' various toxins or waste products in water to be discharged back into river systems. I wouldn't say it was the early days of GMO cause I'm pretty sure GMO's have been around quite a long time. What I do know, is that in most parts of the country, the water that comes out of the tap magically anytime you want, is safe to drink....at least for now.

Branden

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There are companies that make microbial inoculants for soil, and microbial treatments for pool water and such. The company that makes Microblife, for soil, also makes microblift I believe for ponds. I would bet waste water treatment use them.

supercorndogs said:

There are companies that make microbial inoculants for soil, and microbial treatments for pool water and such. The company that makes Microblife, for soil, also makes microblift I believe for ponds. I would bet waste water treatment use them.

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You'd be wrong.
"Bugs in a box" is snake oil for the most part.
Plants usually get "seed" from other plants. Just like borrowing yeast cultures from your neighbor to make bread, except its very diverse microbes and bacteria.
The bugs are naturally occurring in rivers and streams.

Short-bus said:

I got a few replies in before I lost interest in reading more cause it seemed like it was just getting hostile. I wonder how much of a slant applies to the articles that don't know the difference between post treatment wastewater, and raw sewage. I'm not an expert in the matter, have never worked in wastewater treatment, or anything. The one takeaway I have is from my days in college 20+ years ago when a college professor mentioned that there was going to be a very large industry created around specialized microbes, or bacteria, that are designed to process, or 'eat' various toxins or waste products in water to be discharged back into river systems. I wouldn't say it was the early days of GMO cause I'm pretty sure GMO's have been around quite a long time. What I do know, is that in most parts of the country, the water that comes out of the tap magically anytime you want, is safe to drink....at least for now.

Branden

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Two years ago, there was no move to develop special super bugs for treating wastewater. Hope your professor didn't sink any money into it.

The first real "package plant" using the Activated Sludge process was built in 1920 in the UK. The process was "discovered" in 1914.
So the biological wastewater process in a "package" has been around for well over 100 years.
The "process" as it occurs naturally has been around since the first loaf was pinched near a water source.
Natural processes can handle a certain amount, until it is ultimately inundated and becomes "septic".
The ancient greeks in 1500BC had some crude forms of wastewater treatment, but they were mostly physical processes. I'm fair certain they also had crude lagoon systems as well. That kind of thing would be easy to miss by an archeologist I suspect.

BurtG said:

You’re blinded by you’re deep love for big .gov

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Do you realize who stupid this sounds? You are literally starting a thread proposing big government regulations.

How many accounts do you have on this site to carry out your "perceived" anti gov trolling... Deer Sniper, Graboid Hunter, and now this? You are one motivatied individual to go to that length. You definitely have an agenda.

armorpl8chikn said:

If I go from no lead limits in 1940
To and arbitrary limit I set in 1970.
Then half that limit in 1990.
Then half that limit again in 2010.
Guess what happens to the data on the charts, without the need to fudge the real number?

Who is it, Culligan. "This water has half the lead that water has."

No one wants lead/arsenic in their water...or mercury.
Its there anyway. In some locations more than others. Lead is one of the most common elements in the earths crust.

Everyone wants clean water. No one wants to do what it takes to have clean water. Beyond that, waterways need a balance of nutrients and minerals to sustain life.

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But lead tastes good! More leaded water!

Waste treatment?

Theres the

Right way

the

Wrong way

and the Army way

Turn Washington DC into a big sewage treatment plant. they already have a head start since the whole town is full of shit to begin with,

armorpl8chikn said:

You need to stick to farming.
Whats your farm wastewater cert?
You and I have batted this cat around before.
Get you a job at the local plant if you are so fucking jealous, make a difference.....
Wait......can you even pass the cert test?
Lmao
Those emerging pollutants aren't being "dumped" you fucking moron. They go through the process. There is no biologic processes to deal with that shit. It is being worked on by smarter minds than you. Those ".gov plants" you keep referring to have stricter regs than you crybaby.

You really should stick to things of which, you actually have a small modicum of experience.
Stick to tearing up farm equipment, cause you know absolute jack shit about wastewater treatment.
You are definately a mad little man, everything and everyone is out to get you.

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EPA has a huge boner for wastewater treatment. Everytime one of those fuckers comes on site everyone's sphincters tighten.

BurtG said:

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Alex Jo es was right again….

AngryKoala said:

EPA has a huge boner for wastewater treatment. Everytime one of those fuckers comes on site everyone's sphincters tighten.

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When those types would come around the Oil industry in Louisiana, I heard rumors from with in the industry they would be sure to get them out on the Town in New Orleans and show them a good time. Either take the kick back... or potentially a little black mail material, do you really want your wife to see these photos.... So they would fuck on off... Don't know if true or not... Just something I heard.

armorpl8chikn said:

Whats worse.
A billion gallons with 1mg/l NH³
Or a million gallons with 1000mg/l NH³

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I choose "B".

Sean the Nailer said:

I choose "B".

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I know you know the answer.

GreenGO Juan said:

When those types would come around the Oil industry in Louisiana, I heard rumors from with in the industry they would be sure to get them out on the Town in New Orleans and show them a good time. Either take the kick back... or potentially a little black mail material, do you really want your wife to see these photos.... So they would fuck on off... Don't know if true or not... Just something I heard.

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Chemical industry wise the two that were always the worse audit wise were FDA and EPA. They weren't really the take out to lunch and bribe type.

Now ISO auditors....yea, nice lunch and you pass everything.

The worst and dimmest are the ones who run society. We dont even need to get into the chemtrails, the fluoride in the water, shit I cant even pronounce in our food to decrease test levels, the polysaccharide in diet drinks to make your dick small, doctors only prescribing only the not-fun shit that just makes you a tard(thankfully if youre already naturally a tard like me you're all good right? ), so many laws its impossible to even remember a fraction of them so the tax-collectors can get their daily forced bribes, and of course, the small hats.. It always comes back to the small hats..

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Burt may be onto something. could this be why all the little boys are wanting to cut their dicks off?

Asking for Wade.

Forgetful Coyote said:

The worst and dimmest are the ones who run society. We dont even need to get into the chemtrails, the fluoride in the water, shit I cant even pronounce in our food to decrease test levels, the polysaccharide in diet drinks to make your dick small, doctors only prescribing only the not-fun shit that just makes you a tard(thankfully if youre already naturally a tard like me you're all good right? ), so many laws its impossible to even remember a fraction of them so the tax-collectors can get their daily forced bribes, and of course, the small hats.. It always comes back to the small hats..

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We want the good shit.

BurtG said:

Oh. They can’t handle treating regular sewage without dumping it in the bay. And having explosions


Let’s send the buttplug East Palestine contaminated stuff there.

Brilliant ! They can dump that in the bay next.

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Its okay the guberment is in control now. BOOOOOM!!!! what was that? Nothing. Send more Waste.