Will spare bolt heads be available at launch? Definitely picking a coup up but not sure if I want to go 223 or 6 creed first but will be getting both barrels eventually
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@karagias ,can I start my build by ordering a xylo and its bells and whistles now, being assured that it will marry seamlessly the CDG and AW mags? Website description still mention latch modifications required for AW mags.
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I’ll piggyback on this by asking if my Xylo, that was one of the first ones available, is compatible with the CDG and both AICS and AI AW magazines? Just making sure there isn’t a Gen 2 or newer version Xylo available.
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i mean honestly unless you're in some kind of rush, you're better off waiting for like black friday when they have their sales. buy the action when it comes out and wait a bit.
You need to read it again. It has always said that the CDG will work flawlessly with AW mags. It’s AICS mags that will work better with a shim in the mag well.
I bet you just ask them for a diff latch and it’s Gucci. I told them I was putting a vudoo in mine and they put the diff latch and wedge. I’m sure if you tell them you’re getting a cdg they’ll configure it correctly for you.
No guarantee that is will be on a BF sale. Last year they had very few items on sale. The only action was the Nucleus 2.
who waits almost a entire year to save 100$ when each round down range costs 2$
buy it now and shoot one less round a week and by black friday your even money
buy it now and shoot one less round a week and by black friday your even money
I tend to agree, but I'm in absolutely no rush for this build. I already have enough newer/fully-built guns and I'm still buying a CDG. I'll wait for PVA's 4th of July sale too. I'm in no rush.
This is my first post as new member. I’m more of a moderate to short range enthusiast for now. I have been wanting to put together a custom diy build and really like the features of the CDG. I really appreciate the ingenuity of the ARC actions, am also considering a Nucleus or the new Solus from Aero. I’ve read this entire thread and understand that barrels will need a cone breach similar to a M70. I’m a mechanical person and am curious what the difference in feeding is compared to the Nucleus to require cone breaching? Maybe I missed it somewhere. Does it have to do with AW compatibility. I like the simplicity of being able buy any off the shelf small shank savage barrel, but don’t see myself buying that many barrels so it’s probably a non-factor. Probably would start with a 6.5 creedmoor or even 6.5 grendel. I like the 6.5 family, currently playing around with a Swede.
That subject has been discussed at length in the first few pages of this thread, though I get that just coming into a thread that’s 21 pages long would discourage one from wanting to read all of that. Especially since pages were wasted on those complaining about the name.
As I understand it, it has to do with the larger bolt and the necessary meat to contain that bolt. Since the same bolt can be used for everything from .22-338. The smaller diameter cartridges can approach the chambers too low to feed consistently. There’s even a diagram/drawing showing this for clarity.
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Read page four of this thread where this is discussed. Posts #152 & 190 include descriptions and diagrams to help with understanding.
Since you don't have experience with ARC actions I can see how the obvious would easily be missed.
To put it in simple terms, the lugs on the CDG are at 10, 2, & 6 o-clock. The opposite of the Nuke & Archimedes @ 12, 4, & 8. On the latter 2 actions there is a feed ramp between the lugs 4 - 8 o-clock. Without the ramp there is nothing to lift the projectile into the chamber of the smaller cartridges. The projectile/case neck pass through the 6 o-clock lug gap & hit the flat wall of the barrel below the chamber. With a cartridge like 223 the chamber diameter is small so there would be a taller flat wall adjacent.
CDG
Nuke
Feed ramp
yeah, you're totally right, but i shoot like once a quarter haha, i have way too many other hobbies to go shooting every week, so to me waiting for sales is not a big deal and ive managed to make some really nice builds over the years at half the price it wouldve been otherwise. saving couple hundred on each piece adds up to thousand or more over the entire build.. and thats like a whole other gun
That's what it shipped with.
I might consider this action if I was considering suicide. Then my family could joke about how Gil gave himself the ole Coup De Grace.
This makes sense. Thanks for the explanation and pics!
Except that Gil misunderstood the meaning of the term/expression.
Ah, but you see my soul is wounded.
ETA
Or at east my soul would be wounded in this hypothetical suicide scenario.
I’m in for one for a 6.5 CM build!
I’ve been a long time fan of the Foundation Centurion stocks. Are we able to pair those with these actions?
Edit: It looks like they make the Centurion stocks for the Mausingfield. I suppose this is more of a question regarding whether the Mausingfield and CDG will have the same action inlet.
I’ve been a long time fan of the Foundation Centurion stocks. Are we able to pair those with these actions?
Edit: It looks like they make the Centurion stocks for the Mausingfield. I suppose this is more of a question regarding whether the Mausingfield and CDG will have the same action inlet.
When are pre-orders beginning
Make mine a Coupe de Gras instead.
If you want it misspelled I can bondo over the name and paint it however you want it spelled. For a fee, of course. And yes, forum trolls, I’ll kick in 10% to “big” guy
Just buy one from Vudoo and get a better roll mark on the side lol.
Looks like he's giving us another video soon
That thing is a BEAUTY!
I want one that says "Cut da Grass"
I called Foundation and requested an Archimedes inlet, I was assured a mausingfield would be good. I had to take a dreamel to the bolt cut inlet, plus none the body lines matched up. I went away from them. So ass heavy, they need 1.25 straights to balance with a 26" barrel or a 2# weight at end the arca rail. Not for me.......
I’ve never put a blot gun together from components. Can someone tell me (without going through 21 pages) what type of barrel I would need for this? Would it be a prefit?
Im thinking of doing one of these in a krg X-ray chassis, and I think I could keep it under $2300. Just trying to figure out barrel costs.
Thanks in advance
Im thinking of doing one of these in a krg X-ray chassis, and I think I could keep it under $2300. Just trying to figure out barrel costs.
Thanks in advance
"Buy one! You'll be glad you did."
-T. Karagias
-T. Karagias
Can I still use my Archimedes action wrench?
No needs a nw One.
I thought I read somewhere in this thread that PVA and PBB where setting up to offer the CDG prefits.
question on the trigger hanger..eyes were fuzzy... not glasses lol
the from screw is the adjustment on a bevel, which is nice idea
the rear screw is on a flat i guessing, so the downward pressure pusses the pins against the receiver body
can he trigger hanger "fall" out of the receiver of the rear screw backs off?
can the trigger hanger "fall" out of the reciever if the rear screw backs all the way out?
jjust thinking of safety in general, as we know set screws come loose all the time on equipment
thanks
i like the color for the hanger lol
the from screw is the adjustment on a bevel, which is nice idea
the rear screw is on a flat i guessing, so the downward pressure pusses the pins against the receiver body
can he trigger hanger "fall" out of the receiver of the rear screw backs off?
can the trigger hanger "fall" out of the reciever if the rear screw backs all the way out?
jjust thinking of safety in general, as we know set screws come loose all the time on equipment
thanks
i like the color for the hanger lol
Looks like the rear screw would need to fail, and the front set screw would need to back out far enough that the pins could slide forward far enough to access the vertical slots before it could fall out.
The hanger cannot come out if the rear screw becomes loose, it will only allow the hanger to slide axially along the hanger face with bolt open. As long the front screw is in proper position the hanger should go back to correct position upon closing the bolt.
Technically the hanger could possibly come out the action if the rear screw fell out completely. I'm sure Ted designed some fail safes in here.
Lesson: blue locktite is your friend here.
Mine were dry as a bone. Was it used?
No direct from ARC.
Weird, mine were dry except for some oil on the striker assembly.
Unless you're already getting the sale price now, and by Black Friday even the sale price will have been raised. Put another way, maybe the intro price is at or below the Black Friday price. And what will the wait be if you wait that long?
PS Put me down for skipping the flutes unless there's some compelling reason besides fashion. Form should follow function.
Ted is one of the true innovators in bolt rifle design. He really does think outside the box. Very cool.
I believe they are talking about the xylo being on sale BF, not the new action.
I've got two arc actions, neither were slathered in what appears to be axle grease either lol
