the dealer signed it. it's the ATF who didn't sign the form. but they did put the stamp on itYour dealer didn't sign it? WTF kind of dealer doesn't do the most basic thing on any application?
the dealer signed it. it's the ATF who didn't sign the form. but they did put the stamp on itYour dealer didn't sign it? WTF kind of dealer doesn't do the most basic thing on any application?
the dealer signed it. it's the ATF who didn't sign the form. but they did put the stamp on it
e file picture of the stamp but the box is not checkedIs this an efile? What ATF signature are you looking for? How do you know they "put the stamp on it"? So it came back approved and you now have it in hand?
e file picture of the stamp but the box is not checked
that's what is not checked on the formThere is an approved/ denied box on the form. Sounds like the AFT didn't check the box and maybe the dealer wont release it. Thats kinda bullshit. It came back approved and has a stamp, give me my shit and you hash it out with AFT if you care.
It would seem this could be easily corrected by you or your dealer calling ATF. You were already approved, afterall.that's what is not checked on the form
Unfortunately, they can’t release an item with an improperly filled out form- even if it is ‘approved.’ I had a form come back where the reviewer wrote the serial number incorrectly on the stamp. The dealer didn’t notice it until after I took the thing home. A few days later I got a call asking that I bring the form and item back in so they could get the form corrected. It took about a week to turn it around.There is an approved/ denied box on the form. Sounds like the AFT didn't check the box and maybe the dealer wont release it. Thats kinda bullshit. It came back approved and has a stamp, give me my shit and you hash it out with AFT if you care.
We’ll close to two months for them to just click the box.Gotcha. I was just thinking a little mistake like that from AFT is as easy as for them as click the box and re send the approval form and be done with it.
I've got one from 2018 still pending on Silencer Shop.....Just got email from ATF today.
6/14/22
Approved today 3/14/23
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I called the FFL and they said they don't release it until it's updated in SilencerShop(still Pending on there). Does anyone know about how long this takes?
I called the FFL and they said they don't release it until it's updated in SilencerShop(still Pending on there). Does anyone know about how long this takes?
WTF! Are they still holding it or did the FFL finally transfer it to you?I've got one from 2018 still pending on Silencer Shop.....
Did you print it or just show it from your phone? Reason I ask is I have to wait on a new phone since mine got hacked(not turning on data; they've already tried to steal just shy of $11k from me through Amazon/Google).Wow. The only 2 I have ever done through SilencerShop, as soon as I got the email that it was approved I went to my FFL and showed them that it was approved (Im sure they checked as well). Took them home that day
No, I've got it....SS just never updated.WTF! Are they still holding it or did the FFL finally transfer it to you?
Submitted 9/8/22, Dead Air Mask 22 from Silcencer Shop.
Question, Should I be able to see the submission in Eforms, SS shows as submitted, this is my first Form 4 efile.
I did receive the email, SO ALL IS GOODYou should have gotten an email from eforms.notifications to confirm your submission
Silencer shop will continue to list it as pending until you update it.Just got email from ATF today.
6/14/22
Approved today 3/14/23
202256XXXX
I called the FFL and they said they don't release it until it's updated in SilencerShop(still Pending on there). Does anyone know about how long this takes?
They blew by those dates. There were three approved today from the Reddit thread submissions of 7/12, 8/3 and 12/02/22 (see attached). The 12/2 submission approval time 103 days. No dealer closing or special circumstances such as MIL PCS orders on any of them.How long they going to be stuck on June 10-15 it’s been a week and seems like Reddit and here have all been saying they got approved between these dates like wtf did half the country apply for a silencer 3.5 weeks before me?
I’ve got two pending from 6-27-22 and 7-10-22 with no word yetThey blew by those dates. There were three approved today from the Reddit thread submissions of 7/12, 8/3 and 12/02/22 (see attached). The 12/2 submission approval time 103 days. No dealer closing or special circumstances such as MIL PCS orders on any of them.
All three approvals were different people, but all were from Kansas...
One of the other things I noticed about three posted today from Kansas is the examiner signature isn’t clear to read, so maybe the same examiner?I wonder if, now that they’re in the swing of things, the faster examiners are starting to open up a gap between themselves and the slower ones? Might explain how they go from June to August to December.
You can tell which ones are actual doing their jobs, and which ones are fucking-off most of the day…But are tenured and basically un-fireable at this point. Welcome to bureaucracy and the government labor force.I wonder if, now that they’re in the swing of things, the faster examiners are starting to open up a gap between themselves and the slower ones? Might explain how they go from June to August to December.
Right with you I have an 8/22 certYou can tell which ones are actual doing their jobs, and which ones are fucking-off most of the day…But are tenured and basically un-fireable at this point. Welcome to bureaucracy and the government labor force.
My next one is my OCL Hydrogen-L 7.62 with an 8/19 cert date, so we’ll see how quickly they get that one approved. I’m hoping they will do a batch approval of all my pending cans, which would be amazing, but I’m not holding my breath…
It’s not that simple. If you watch the NFA subreddit, you will see two examiners (Rachel Ballard & Jessica Mason) who consistently bring the most recent submission date approvals forward, so that sounds like it supports your position that they’re ”actually doing their jobs,” better than the rest. However, digging deeper, a couple of weeks ago while most approvals were coming in from late May submissions, out of no where, Mason and Ballard push the date range forward with a couple mid-June approvals and then guess what happens in the same day? Those exact two examiners move backwards to early June or late May dates that they approve - it’s all over the place, for even those two examiners! Ballard was the examiner that approved “20 can man” last week and remember the shortest approval for those 20 cans was 12 days. Watch and see now those two are back in the average with the rest of the examiners.You can tell which ones are actual doing their jobs, and which ones are fucking-off most of the day…But are tenured and basically un-fireable at this point. Welcome to bureaucracy and the government labor force.
You’re right for most of them, but for a few outliers (that no one can figure out why) it definitely is.I see that new E-File method isn’t really faster like we all hoped.
I see that new E-File method isn’t really faster like we all hoped.
I think it Esther has to do with how your trust is written or some other factor that we don’t know because every time I’ve filed (paper) I’ve always gotten it back in a fairly decent amount of time. Even when it’s typical 9-10 months wait mine have seems to come back in 4 months. But I’m not complaining. Hahahah. I have t done the E-File yet but will probably run a couple here in a month or so and stock up on some more entries into the government registry.You’re right for most of them, but for a few outliers (that no one can figure out why) it definitely is.
Somewhere out here is that meme of the guy with the fishing pole saying “you almost had it!” HahaahWhen this happened it almost made me hold my breath. But I think they were just teasing us at first
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Somewhere out here is that meme of the guy with the fishing pole saying “you almost had it!” Hahaah
Yup. About 2108 last night. Central time.Did anyone else get the "rules of behavior" email from ATF?
YupDid anyone else get the "rules of behavior" email from ATF?
Yeah I do find it strange as wellGlad I'm not the only one, haha. I'm not entirely clear what it's saying, but it makes me think maybe some dealers were signing on behalf of their customers, rather than the purchaser signing the form 4 themselves? Anyways, I was terrified my dealer had done something wrong on my application when I saw it, but sounds like it was a general email that went out.