I'm looking to pick up a suppressor for my switch barrel rifle in 7-300prc and 300 norma mag. Currently running an omega 300 on my other rifle. Been looking at the rugged Alaskan 360 or the sico hybrid. Is there any other good choices in the price range. The norma has a 26in barrel and the 7-300prc has a 22 in barrel.
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May look into the DA Primal for that price range. Haven’t used myself but haven’t had any complaints with any of their stuff.
For .30 cal and smaller magnums, the Magnus will be the quietest one
The two cans you mentioned will be louder than your Omega, I am almost certain
The two cans you mentioned will be louder than your Omega, I am almost certain
Hekate
Just went gen 1 338 ultra sr got it onsale at mile high for my mrad 300 prc, they have the 338 gen 1 cb mount for like 1100
It’s also double his budget.
OP you might want to restate your budget in terms of $ or your going to keep getting recommendations for $1600 cans. I took it as you’re looking for something in the $800~ range (pre-stamp).
I'm looking for something in the 1k or less range before Stamp. This is mostly for the norma mag only because my omega 300 can't handle the norma mag according to silencerco
A wise choice is to pony up an additional $300 and take advantage of this sale, as somebody else mentioned. THen you can grow into a 338, too
I am mostly looking for a 338 can as it will only be used on this rifle. It won't be getting switched to a pistol or anything else.
He mentioned two cans around $700-$800 and then asked:
Which is also why I mentioned to him that he should explicitly put his price range because it’s getting overlooked. I believe he then added that his budget is ~$1k
Also those PTPs are interesting. New company?? I grew up in WKY. Went to undergrad at Murray State. Played soccer with guys from Mayfield. I’d support a company from there, especially after what happened to that town after the tornados a couple winters back.
Interesting. First time hearing about them. Grew up in eddyville on the other side of the lakes. Parents just sold their 60 acre hobby farm of over 35 years.
Spend the extra money and get a 338 Ultra or Magnus. Trying to save a few hundred dollars on a lifetime purchase is foolish IMO.
Not to mention you can buy a 50% off cert for $150-200 and stay around $1000 before stamp.
Not to mention you can buy a 50% off cert for $150-200 and stay around $1000 before stamp.
I'm also possibly considering an elite iron Sierra 338. I remember years ago they were very good suppressors is that still the case or no.
You will not find a better magnum can than a 338 Ultra for 1200 bucks.
I think it would be silly to not take advantage of that sale given the hosts you mentioned in the OP.
I think it would be silly to not take advantage of that sale given the hosts you mentioned in the OP.
Uh no.... There is no better can than a 338 ultra gen 1 or 2.... Fo get about it
EI makes great stuff and i have their 375 can which is awesome, so is their 50 cal can, but for 338, no way. TBAC 338 Ultra
33XC is too much bigger than 338 Lapua for the 338 Ultras. For that and other ELR cartridges, the next step up for us will be the 50 can, this summer.
There's no reason we couldn't do a 33XC rated 338 Ultra, however, it would increase the base weight beyond what people want for a 338LM suppressor.
how different would a 37cal rated (33XC/37XC/375CT) suppressor be from the 338U/SR and the upcoming 50cal can
No offense to TBAC, love their products and innovation, have several of their cans, but the $5000+ upcoming 50 cal can is a novelty, not a practical device for all but the most specialized "missions".
What is missing in the market is a lightweight, highly effective, titanium 375 can, like the 338 Ultra, but rated for 375CT and associated wildcats. Surefire has one, EI has one, FPM gunworks has the Nyati, but not heard much about it yet - SUPER light (under a pound!?). I know a guy who's testing it, but I'm skeptical. KGM has the R50, but it's 3#. I have little confidence that anybody has made a 375 can like what I think TBAC is capable of, along the lines of the 338 ULTRA. I wager if they do, it will become the industry standard. (Challenge set, LOL.)
Suppressing a 50 is more a proof of concept thing. Again, no offense intended, it looks like an AWESOME can in the videos. I just don't see many people buying an almost 2-foot-long $5000 50 BMG can. It costs as much as many 50 cal rifles and scopes, which is truly a new precedent.
It's a great can though, in terms of suppression and recoil reduction.
What is missing in the market is a lightweight, highly effective, titanium 375 can, like the 338 Ultra, but rated for 375CT and associated wildcats. Surefire has one, EI has one, FPM gunworks has the Nyati, but not heard much about it yet - SUPER light (under a pound!?). I know a guy who's testing it, but I'm skeptical. KGM has the R50, but it's 3#. I have little confidence that anybody has made a 375 can like what I think TBAC is capable of, along the lines of the 338 ULTRA. I wager if they do, it will become the industry standard. (Challenge set, LOL.)
Suppressing a 50 is more a proof of concept thing. Again, no offense intended, it looks like an AWESOME can in the videos. I just don't see many people buying an almost 2-foot-long $5000 50 BMG can. It costs as much as many 50 cal rifles and scopes, which is truly a new precedent.
It's a great can though, in terms of suppression and recoil reduction.
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For .30 caliber or smaller, I can highly recommend a few good quiet cans... The Dead Air Nomad-LT, Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L 7.62, and the Thunderbeast Magnus.
I have both the Nomad-LT and Hydrogen-L, and just bought a TBAC Magnus HUB yesterday. Can't wait to get it in and compare it to the other big .30 "L" cans I have.
If you're going up to .338 caliber, then the TBAC .338 Ultra or CGS Hekate are going to be about the best out there.
I am almost certain we could make one in the same footprint as the 338 Ultra. Now would that be the best suppression (or even "most efficient per size")? Maybe/probably not. Before we were to embark on a can specifically for 33-37 cal rifles with 100-150 grains powder, there would have to be sufficient demand to justify the R&D cycle required to optimize it for that.
With regard to 375CT, a fair number of rifles that shoot this are based on a .50 cal action/chassis, and in that case (eg, an AX ELR switched to 375CT), personally, I'd probably just put the Ultra 50 on there, maybe in the short config. I am guessing we'd want to use the brake module from it anyway. Suppression and handling wise, it'll be like shooting 6CM through a 338 Ultra... pea shooter in other words.
I do get the idea of having a can optimized for ELR .33-.37 cartridges, but we'd have the see the demand for it there first.
secondofangle2, I appreciate your post and I will take your logic into account. One thing though, unless it's very elusive, I see the demand for that specialized ELR-cartridge capable .33-.37 cal can as a lot more niche/novelty than the .50 can. I say this in part because of historical inquiries for the two ideas, and then the demand for the "Ultra 50" has been about 20-30x what we expected it to be when we started the project. One of our major dealers is getting calls daily asking for details and when it can be ordered. Show us the demand for the 33-37 idea is there and it can happen....
Zak, you obviously know better than I do about all of this. Like ALL of it.
I'm just a guy with a fair amount of $$$ to burn, have a 50 and a 375, but am a purely recreational shooter. I could never justify $5k for a 50 cal plinker can/toy. But, In another thread, we're talking about 50 cal in the Ko2M, and they're saying forget it, rules basically nix it. So all the guys are shooting 375 and 416. In the latter case, your 50 can may soon be a frequent appearance there, depending on the Ko2M silly rules on these kind of things. My wild guess is a 338 Ultra scaled up to 375 might see lots of immediate appearances in competitions like that. I'd buy one, even if it made my EI 375 can basically obsolete. But as I said, I'm just one guy, and a purely recreational shooter, so I'm probably a niche market. Just can't/don't want to afford a $5k 50 caliber toy. The 50 cal is already a toy, and I wouldn't even have one if the barrel didn't basically go onto my 375 rig with 4 screws, a bolt change, and 60 seconds time.
I'm just a guy with a fair amount of $$$ to burn, have a 50 and a 375, but am a purely recreational shooter. I could never justify $5k for a 50 cal plinker can/toy. But, In another thread, we're talking about 50 cal in the Ko2M, and they're saying forget it, rules basically nix it. So all the guys are shooting 375 and 416. In the latter case, your 50 can may soon be a frequent appearance there, depending on the Ko2M silly rules on these kind of things. My wild guess is a 338 Ultra scaled up to 375 might see lots of immediate appearances in competitions like that. I'd buy one, even if it made my EI 375 can basically obsolete. But as I said, I'm just one guy, and a purely recreational shooter, so I'm probably a niche market. Just can't/don't want to afford a $5k 50 caliber toy. The 50 cal is already a toy, and I wouldn't even have one if the barrel didn't basically go onto my 375 rig with 4 screws, a bolt change, and 60 seconds time.
Alright, we'll kick around some ideas..
i'd never get a 50cal or a 50cal can
but i'd certainly entertain a 37cal build if i knew i could put a purpose built can on the front. even if it was a 37PRC/37NM/37LM hunting gun and not a full on 37XC/375CT
besides...Sam needs something new to play with on socials
but i'd certainly entertain a 37cal build if i knew i could put a purpose built can on the front. even if it was a 37PRC/37NM/37LM hunting gun and not a full on 37XC/375CT
besides...Sam needs something new to play with on socials
Here's the thing, if we're talking .35-.37 caliber cartridges with a powder capacity of like 100gr H2O or less, we can just make a bored-out Magnus or 338 Ultra. (We "may" have made a few .375 cal Magnuses for .375H&H-- shhhhh)
Going to the larger ELR cartridges with more like 150 H2O grains capacity, we need a new can.
Going to the larger ELR cartridges with more like 150 H2O grains capacity, we need a new can.
Why?
why what?
Never get a 50 cal can? I can answer: because it's impractical in terms of weight, length, and cost. The TBAC 50 can seems to be the only one with truly great suppression and recoil reduction but it's as long as my arm and costs more than my tangent theta.
Or is it the 375 can that gets a yes? Well, that's because 375 cans don't have the aforementioned disadvantages to nearly the same degree that 50 cal cans have.
Never get a 50 cal can? I can answer: because it's impractical in terms of weight, length, and cost. The TBAC 50 can seems to be the only one with truly great suppression and recoil reduction but it's as long as my arm and costs more than my tangent theta.
Or is it the 375 can that gets a yes? Well, that's because 375 cans don't have the aforementioned disadvantages to nearly the same degree that 50 cal cans have.
I have a Delta P .50 can rated to 50 BMG. I use it on everything from .50 BMG to .338 to .458 to .45 ACP. Yea, it’s big but not too heavy and not too long.
to each his own I guess. the website claims over 5#, and it's $2500
What's suppression levels and recoil on a 50 BMG?
What's suppression levels and recoil on a 50 BMG?
Hearing safe and similar to unsuppressed (12 ga—like) recoil but without the massive blast concussion—especially shooting prone on a mat.
I’d love TBAC to edm bore my Ultra 7 out so I could use it on my 9.3x62. Or if need be I’m always happy to buy another one of the markings need to be changed
We can’t change caliber once registered. But get a group together and we can do a run of .375 cal Magnuses
Interesting, and how many people do i have to convince they need this with me?
Hmm. Like, a dozen? More is better but we could do that.
In light of the discussion earlier in this thread, let me get together a cartridge go/no-go list of typical .35 up to .375 cal cartridges for a .375 Magnus so people know what to expect.
The few we made earlier were made for .375 H&H but ended up being shot more on 9mm (rifle).
In light of the discussion earlier in this thread, let me get together a cartridge go/no-go list of typical .35 up to .375 cal cartridges for a .375 Magnus so people know what to expect.
The few we made earlier were made for .375 H&H but ended up being shot more on 9mm (rifle).
If it were rated for 375 cheytac and improved versions of that base t cartridge, I think that would get people like me interested in a group buy.
You would have to specify that they are or are not compatible with larger 375 cartridges based on the Nyati cartridge. Basically some kind of case volume or powder charge limit.
You would have to specify that they are or are not compatible with larger 375 cartridges based on the Nyati cartridge. Basically some kind of case volume or powder charge limit.
375 Cheytac has a water capacity of over 150gr. For that, it'd almost certainly be some new can between the size of the 338 Ultra and the 50 can. That's not just a programming change to run off some overbored cans for cartridges with about the same amount of powder the can was designed for anyway-- that's a whole new development cycle. 375 CT/408 (and the smaller ELR cartridges) are on our radar to develop a kick-ass ELR can, but we won't know where that falls vs. the 50 can until we get that into production and get some test guns in the smaller (smaller than .50) rifles for testing.
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