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Magazine system for Multi Cal rifle?

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Is there a reliable, commercial/production magazine solution for a multi caliber rifle, with mags roomy enough for VLD/ELD bullets loaded long? My calibers of interest are 6.5cm, 6.5/7/300 prc. I'll almost certainly use a Left Handed Terminus Zeus QC action. But I'd be curious if there's also a magazine system for Left Handed Tikka T3x.

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from the same rifle? not really unless AI

or loading 6.5CM in modified LA mags

XM length gets you closest with 3006/65x55 and WSM/SAUM mags

the closest may be the Hawkins hunter mag length limiters
 
I'm researching the possibility of building one rifle that can shoot multi calibers- 6.5cm, 6.5 prc/7mm prc/300 prc- with the change of barrel, bolt, and mag.
 
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AI.

Cadex maybe?

mags are the problem. feeding any of the PRCs in a long action is fine.

feeding the 6.5CM from a long action mag isn't so easy

i'd rather single feed a 7/300PRC from a short action than deal with a 6.5CM in a standard long action.

again...Hawkins Hunter mags and spacer kits may be a solution depending on what type of shooting you do
 
also...QC actions are overrated.

how often are you going to realistically change a barrel at the range...even so wrench flats or a viper vise make it a moot point anyways
 
whats the main purpose of the rifle?

matches? PRS or NRL Hunter?
field shooting?
hunting?
bench/prone shooting?
 
AI.

Cadex maybe?

mags are the problem. feeding any of the PRCs in a long action is fine.

feeding the 6.5CM from a long action mag isn't so easy

i'd rather single feed a 7/300PRC from a short action than deal with a 6.5CM in a standard long action.

again...Hawkins Hunter mags and spacer kits may be a solution depending on what type of shooting you do
Accuracy International. Barrett. Cadex. Sako's TRG based system rifle.

And there was a guy who sold in the PX a Terminus Zeus QC action based rifle system that was set up for 3-4 different calibers... He sold it due to unforeseen circumstances.
 
Accuracy International. Barrett. Cadex. Sako's TRG based system rifle.

And there was a guy who sold in the PX a Terminus Zeus QC action based rifle system that was set up for 3-4 different calibers... He sold it due to unforeseen circumstances.
i have 8 different barrels for my Zermatt actions. from 223 to 30SM. takes maybe 5 mins to change a barrel and bolthead. basically any custom action can do this...some much more expensively

but you're still going to have issues with magazines trying to get them all to work
 
also...QC actions are overrated.

how often are you going to realistically change a barrel at the range...even so wrench flats or a viper vise make it a moot point anyways
Thanks for your opinion. I like the idea of a QC action because I'd prefer to replace a barrel without need of a barrel vise nor barrel wrench- hand tighten the barrel, two set screws, done.

Terminus Zeus action pricing is the same for QC and conventional prefits.

If you learn of any magazine solutions that will fill my need, let me know. Thanks
 
You'll end up using different magazines, depending on cartridge length, base diameter, and case taper. Tuning a magazine to work well with one cartridge means it likely is not gonna work very well with a different cartridge family. 6.5 creed isn't even close to 300 prc.

KRGs chassis systems accept CIP length long action magazines, which will give you the length you want with VLD bullets seated long, and they make a spacer you can install in the chassis to facilitate using standard long action magazines which are more appropriate for your shorter rounds.

MDT, I think,makes a variety of magazines for different cartridge families. If you look at their website, you should be able to figure it out. Otherwise, send them an email and they can probably help.

All that said, switch barrel systems are neat, but it's not something you'll want to do in the field much. Kit up your rifle at home for what you're doing that day, and go shoot. And before very long, I'd bet dollars to donuts that you end up with an action wrench and a barrel vise anyhow. God forbid a set screw work loose and now you don't have a good way to get your barrel torqued to the action safely.
 
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Separate to the conversation of how to do what you want, is a conversation about the best way to do something similar. Pick a parent case, then neck it up and down for all the bullets you'd like to use, that gets you inside the performance envelope you want. Pick the action and magazine length that fits best. Tune a couple magazines for each cartridge individually, as each bullet is likely gonna want to be presented to the chamber a little differently. Then it really is change barrel, load magazines, shoot.

For example, you'd be hard pressed to find a better all around performing case than the 30-06 family. From 6mm-06, to 6.5-06, .270 Win, .280 AI, .338-06, and .35 Whelan, not to mention the granddaddy. If you want higher performance, go with the RUM family, so long as you don't mind the recoil, and the smaller overbore versions taking your lunch money in barrel life.

If it was me, I'd do 3 barrels, 6.5-06 at 26", throated for 142-147 grain class bullets, which will beat the pants off a 6.5PRC for straight performance 7 days a week, and twice on Sundays, a 30-06 with a Serengeti chamber, at 26-28", which knocks on the door of 300WM easily, and gives me access to a wide range of good bullet weights for lots of things, and a .35 Whelan at 20-22", for a shorter handier rifle when I want a gun to go hunt with.

Run the numbers for the cartridges you want, and think hard about what your overlap is. 6.5 Creed gives you most of the performance of 6.5 and 7 PRC, at least for paper targets, and it isn't til you get to the 300 that you're really into a different animal. Now, if you're talking 7-300 PRC, then you're into a totally different performance class than the aforementioned cartridges, and the only thing I mentioned that would be comparable would be the 7mm RUM.

This is all worth what you paid for it, but take it from a guy who's been down the road you're on and decided the juice isn't worth the squeeze in almost all cases.
 
AXMC or ASR. All the bolts, mags and barrels have been sorted out for this.

But good luck finding a LH version
 
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You'll end up using different magazines, depending on cartridge length, base diameter, and case taper...
Yes, that's the plan, to be able to switch barrels, mags, bolts as needed.
 
I’ve been working with @Tyler Kemp on this exact thing and I’m hopeful we can get everything ready before too long! Seems more and more guys are looking for this solution. Next I’ll be bugging Joe for a long action bolt with a 223 bolt face :ROFLMAO:

For what it’s worth, I’m running 6 CM (carbon), 6.5 CM (MTU), 308 Win (MTU), 300 Win (MTU), and 300 Norma (MTU) on a Zeus QC in a Bravo which has been great.



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I’ve been working with @Tyler Kemp on this exact thing and I’m hopeful we can get everything ready before too long! Seems more and more guys are looking for this solution. Next I’ll be bugging Joe for a long action bolt with a 223 bolt face :ROFLMAO:

For what it’s worth, I’m running 6 CM (carbon), 6.5 CM (MTU), 308 Win (MTU), 300 Win (MTU), and 300 Norma (MTU) on a Zeus QC in a Bravo which has been great.



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I've explored this idea pretty extensively and unless you want to go with a factory system like a SRS, AXMC, MRAD, or Kraken you basically have two choices:

  • A long action in a Cadex chassis with a LA CIP length mag housing and a second mag housing to use short action magazines
  • A conventional LA stock with a CIP length bottom metal, and a second bottom metal like the badger ordinance M24 (now discontinued) that lets you use short action mags on a long action
Curious to see how the bravo system works when it's all done.
 
If you have a long action bravo, buy the plastic 30-06 magazines for creedmoors. When you want to run CIP length cartridges, remove the spacer on the bravo.
Or buy another chassis that is only CIP length and you can modifying the plastic 30-06 mags in a very redneck manner like I did before in an old thread. I ran this setup for a few months before I bought another action to have two rifles instead of one. Swapping barrels, rezeroing, etc is cool and stuff but I prefer to have separate rifles when the cartridges are on the opposite end of the spectrum from one another.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/po-man’s-ai.7086081/