Is something going on in Ukraine?

"IF PUTIN WANTS A 1-ON-1 FIGHT, THEN I'LL GIVE HIM A 1-ON-1 FIGHT! TELL HIM TO MEET ME IN THE ALLEY BEHIND THE ICE CREAM SHOP AT HIGH NOON AND I'LL BEAT THE BALONEY OUT OF HIM! ALONG WITH ANY OF YOU SCALAWAG PONY SOLDIER TWO-BIT REPORTERS THAT WANT TO ASK ABOUT HIM! C'MON MAN! GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE BEFORE I GRAB YOU BY THE BOOTSTRAPS AND UHH...ahhh." was what the president supposedly said when asked by reporters about apparent comments by Vladimir Putin about challenging Pres. Biden in a fight.

I will leave this here.

Graywolf.260 said:

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The Washington Post, with previous greatest hits, such as Russiagate, COVID, white supremacy, systemic racism, and illegal immigration and transgenderism is our strength!

stunned by how many liberal leaning and just downright gullible people there are here

Pay no attention to the propaganda, the special military operation is still going according to plan.

Graywolf.260 said:

Pay no attention to the propaganda, the special military operation is still going according to plan.

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I don't think it is going according to anyone's plan.

The west did not think Russia would go through with a "real" invasion. I don't think Russia thought the west would pour every bullet they have into Ukraine. No one planned on this.

theLBC said:

The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace | Common Dreams

By recognizing that the question of NATO enlargement is at the center of this war, we understand why U.S. weaponry will not end this war. Only diplomatic efforts can do that.

www.commondreams.org

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That is a good summery article.

Remember back in 2014 when "Russia shot down the Malaysia airliner" Remember what was going on. They don't want you to remember there was a full on war going on way back then. And I wonder who was the US pres in 2014.....now who could that have been......and who was the VP, darn my mind is just a blank.

We got told that the russians had to shoot down the airliner, that Ukraine had no means, no equipment to shoot down a plane like that. Oh really? Just how sure are we about that.

Now I don't know for sure, but with this group of folks, I am sure going to question what the "official" story is.

Now why was there shooting going on there in the first place. I did dig into that and I question just who the "bad guys" are.

This entire thing stinks to high heaven, and your article is right, there is no amount of weapons that will allow Ukraine to win this war. I will go a step farther there is no amount of spilled Ukraine blood that can be spilled that will win this war. The only way that Russia may be forced to back off is if blood other then ukrainian is spilled. And the real worry there is they all know it, both east and west. And that will move things in a very bad direction.

Some people need to....ahh....step out of public light and after that, Ukraine has a promise of sovereignty and a promise of remaining neutral. That is the only thing that will bring this to a non bullet riddled end. I think the people of Ukraine would accept that, I think that Russia would accept that, I don't think anyone else will....just like the article pointed out.

steve podleski said:

typical ruskie proganda; the agm-88 is not a cruise missile but a M=2 missile that would need highly sophisticated anti-missile tech. You would need s400 capability and that would be an expensive exchange.

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It's written by the Brits based solely on Ukrainian sources.

Looks like cannon foder goes directly from the mobilization to war, with minimal to no training involved. While MSM is full of stories of NATO training of AFU troops, in reality, western trained AFU represents a single-digit percentage of the fighting force

From Strana a Ukrainian telegram channel



''In Bakhmut, AFU sent the newly mobilized, who died en masse in the city - to save trained fighters for the counteroffensive, according to the Wall Street Journal.
The material contains the story of a group of mobilized from the 93rd mechanized brigade - they were recruited from the unemployed in the Kharkiv region.
After mobilization, they were equipped with Soviet weapons and sent first to Konstantinovka, then to Bakhmut.
The material tells the story of a group of 16 conscripts who defended Bakhmut, "many of whom were called up a few days earlier and did not receive any training."
For 36 hours of hostilities, out of a group of 16 people, in which Malkovsky was, 11 fighters were killed or captured, the newspaper writes.
Just a few days passed between mobilization and sending to the front, the newspaper writes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/36-hou...ate-battle-to-hold-back-the-russians-72e30f01

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somehow i don't see this turning the tide, lol

Mr.BR said:

Looks like cannon foder goes directly from the mobilization to war, with minimal to no training involved. While MSM is full of stories of NATO training of AFU troops, in reality, western trained AFU represents a single-digit percentage of the fighting force

From Strana a Ukrainian telegram channel



''In Bakhmut, AFU sent the newly mobilized, who died en masse in the city - to save trained fighters for the counteroffensive, according to the Wall Street Journal.
The material contains the story of a group of mobilized from the 93rd mechanized brigade - they were recruited from the unemployed in the Kharkiv region.
After mobilization, they were equipped with Soviet weapons and sent first to Konstantinovka, then to Bakhmut.
The material tells the story of a group of 16 conscripts who defended Bakhmut, "many of whom were called up a few days earlier and did not receive any training."
For 36 hours of hostilities, out of a group of 16 people, in which Malkovsky was, 11 fighters were killed or captured, the newspaper writes.
Just a few days passed between mobilization and sending to the front, the newspaper writes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/36-hou...ate-battle-to-hold-back-the-russians-72e30f01

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i've seen several reports like this (sending new conscripts out with zero training).
lots of people seem to think the counter-offensive will be "huge", but i dunno. how much of their ammo was blown up? did that delay anything, which is why the dod accounting office had to find another $3Billion to give them?

/also saw story claiming some ukrainian commanders are getting fragged for sending out troops in a no-win fight. troops don't dig that?

I predict the total collapse of the ukie army

theLBC said:

somehow i don't see this turning the tide, lol

Report: Russia Promising Cubans ‘Express’ Citizenship if They Fight in Ukraine

A group of at least 14 Cuban citizens reportedly signed contracts to enlist in Russia's armed forces and and fight in Ukraine.

www.breitbart.com

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For context Wagner's boss said he lost 10.000 of the 60.000 convicts he enlisted and a further 10,000 mercenaries in Battle for Bakhmut (as he said irretrievable losses so badly wounded and killed) . Indeed 14 Amigos are not going to make a difference.

RUTGERS95 said:

I predict the total collapse of the ukie army

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Really going out on a limb there……..

Mr.BR said:

For context Wagner's boss said he lost 10.000 of the 60.000 convicts he enlisted and a further 10,000 mercenaries in Battle for Bakhmut (as he said irretrievable losses so badly wounded and killed) . Indeed 14 Amigos are not going to make a difference.

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If you look at the estimates of 4-7 Ukes killed to each Russian killed that’s a huge amount of loss. Especially for the Ukrainians who need everyone they can get. Eventually you get the the point that material isn’t going to help if there isn’t anyone to man it. The EW game by the Russians is strong too. It’s more than just the 10,000 drones per month they are putting down, it’s the impact on the battlefield of those drones being taken out. Along with the munitions that apparently never even make it to the battlefield.

Mr.BR said:

For context Wagner's boss said he lost 10.000 of the 60.000 convicts he enlisted and a further 10,000 mercenaries in Battle for Bakhmut (as he said irretrievable losses so badly wounded and killed) . Indeed 14 Amigos are not going to make a difference.

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the brits are offering accelerated citizenship to any military trained "refugees" that want to fight.

theLBC said:

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And people wonder why some look favorably on Putin...
Because the shit he says actually makes sense and aint some extremist nonsense about overturning everything we hold near and dear.
At the least, he comes across as a level headed person. A lot more than I can say for many of our own leaders who seem obsessed with turning every child into some trans mutant or somehow otherwise sexualizing and ruining the life of young kids.

Forgetful Coyote said:

And people wonder why some look favorably on Putin...
Because the shit he says actually makes sense and aint some extremist nonsense about overturning everything we hold near and dear.
At the least, he comes across as a level headed person. A lot more than I can say for many of our own leaders who seem obsessed with turning every child into some trans mutant or somehow otherwise sexualizing and ruining the life of young kids.

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yeah, he can be both a bad man and an honest man. he's basically saying what many are already thinking. maybe that's the point.

RUTGERS95 said:

I predict the total collapse of the ukie army

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I believe that Biden had a clause written in the loan agreement that if they loose the war we get our money back ( probably with interest).

In all seriousness, this conflict has got to be confusing to the masses.

If you are a liberal, socialist Russia was awesome. Until they went against Ukraine and hated on the LGbTQwhatever crowd. Then not so much. Nowhere else to love but France…or Canada….

If you are conservative, you hated Russia. Cold War and all. Then they came out against gays and the WEF agenda. Then there is surface- level agreement. Now what?

The world is upside down. Who to believe? Who to trust?

lariat said:

In all seriousness, this conflict has got to be confusing to the masses.

If you are a liberal, socialist Russia was awesome. Until they went against Ukraine and hated on the LGbTQwhatever crowd. Then not so much. Nowhere else to love but France…or Canada….

If you are conservative, you hated Russia. Cold War and all. Then they came out against gays and the WEF agenda. Then there is surface- level agreement. Now what?

The world is upside down. Who to believe? Who to trust?

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Our own society has gone from sanity to batshit crazy.
Their society has gone from batshit crazy back to sanity.

Pretty much the way I see it...

fpgt72 said:

I will leave this here.

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I'll take 5.

Forgetful Coyote said:

Our own society has gone from sanity to batshit crazy.
Their society has gone from batshit crazy back to sanity.

Pretty much the way I see it...

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Isaiah 5:20.

UKDslayer said:

Isaiah 5:20.

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Right on.
The "machine" and establishment media would have you believe Putin is some ultranationalist bigot. And then you hear the man talk.. its the machine themselves who are the extremists..

Probably part of the reason they'd never allow that little speech @theLBC posted to be spread by mainstream media. Way too many people would have to step back and say 'hold on, why are we supposed to hate this guy again? Hes making too much sense and comes across way too rational. More rational than most of our own leaders at least, but that aint so difficult. Regardless.. he seems to be looking out for his peoples' best interest much more effectively than anyone in Washington DC looks out for Americans' best interest.

lariat said:

In all seriousness, this conflict has got to be confusing to the masses.

If you are a liberal, socialist Russia was awesome. Until they went against Ukraine and hated on the LGbTQwhatever crowd. Then not so much. Nowhere else to love but France…or Canada….

If you are conservative, you hated Russia. Cold War and all. Then they came out against gays and the WEF agenda. Then there is surface- level agreement. Now what?

The world is upside down. Who to believe? Who to trust?

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Who to believe? Who to trust?

No one.

37L1 said:

Who to believe? Who to trust?

No one.

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Definitely not dot gov. When John McStain, graham and the others were making regular trips to the "most corrupted country" I was questioning why. But it was back page stuff due to Afghanistan and basically the media was already in the bag and wasn't going to uncover the bullshit.
Now we're caught up in a propaganda war on a real war.
What to believe? Probably anything that dot gov puts out in the media as conspiracy is most likely the truth.
Remember? We don't have bio labs in Ukraine. That turned out to be well, we have a couple. That turned out to be 40 something paid for through the DOD and hunter Biden was taking in millions.

If there were home invaders in my house while my family was upstairs fearing for their lives but I ran over to help my neighbor expel their burglars; people would say that I was crazy.

If my house was on fire with my family in it but I ran over to help my neighbor put out a kitchen fire; people would say that I was crazy.

If I my credit card debt exceeded my yearly income twice over with three vehicles to pay off but I took out a 2nd mortgage to give to my neighbor so they can bail a relative out of jail; people would say that I was crazy.

If a country that was close to defaulting on their national debt, with rampant crime, a defective military and had a problem with millions of illegal border jumpers but borrowed more money to give to another country and provide them weapons to fight off another invading country what would people say about the first country?

Longshot231 said:

If there were home invaders in my house while my family was upstairs fearing for their lives but I ran over to help my neighbor expel their burglars; people would say that I was crazy.

If my house was on fire with my family in it but I ran over to help my neighbor put out a kitchen fire; people would say that I was crazy.

If I my credit card debt exceeded my yearly income twice over with three vehicles to pay off but I took out a 2nd mortgage to give to my neighbor so they can bail a relative out of jail; people would say that I was crazy.

If a country that was close to defaulting on their national debt, with rampant crime, a defective military and had a problem with millions of illegal border jumpers but borrowed more money to give to another country and provide them weapons to fight off another invading country what would people say about the first country?

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It’s so obviously stupid that there is no way it is an accident. It has been carefully engineered. It is, in fact, designed to facilitate the great reset. Only because most westerners believe they are “gods”, does this work out for the Klaus/George/Bill/Elon crew.

And yet a year later... Its like the movie Apocalipto, TooLate... I mean i know some of you do but how can a large population miss "in your face symbols" and messages? G7 at Hiroshima can you really in all your intellectual honesty not see the irony in it....and can you intellect not scream what comes next?

They say here is the script, stop us, you wont its on you we spelled it out for you....some of you will get the last line most won't but regardless "they" won't win they never did and never will....

Forgetful Coyote said:

And people wonder why some look favorably on Putin...
Because the shit he says actually makes sense and aint some extremist nonsense about overturning everything we hold near and dear.
At the least, he comes across as a level headed person. A lot more than I can say for many of our own leaders who seem obsessed with turning every child into some trans mutant or somehow otherwise sexualizing and ruining the life of young kids.

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How crazy is it that we live in an Era where the president of a former communist country espouses more anti Marxist messaging then the leaders of the western world.

Watched this and couldn't help myself.....I donated to Ukraine....


I heard Harvey Weinstein produced it and everyone in it blew him.

At least it didn't feature a chic with two mothers. Anxiously awaiting this "Great Offensive"...

If they have any ammo left from that massive explosion

Ok, this is from Russia, so pick through the propaganda. But what is being communicated is interesting- Russia was betrayed, they thought they had an ally in Europe.

Sako man said:

How crazy is it that we live in an Era where the president of a former communist country espouses more anti Marxist messaging then the leaders of the western world.

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It actually makes sense. Just because you were born into, doesn't mean you liked it, or thought it was "good." Like Putin has often said, they've lived through similar stuff and it wasn't pretty.

New mobilised for front lines ,seems like recruiters took on Roma or Gypsies and got manhandled

Sad. My heart goes out to all the families of those rounded up and sent to the meatgrinder. And those who were tricked into dying for the WEF. Many of said families probably dont even know yet their loved ones have paid the ultimate price..
Hopefully cooler heads will prevail before more needless deaths occur. Barring that or a mutiny by the enlisted men, more cities will be turned to rubble.

Wish we couldve got one of the Wagner guys to wear a goPro and document the entire Battle of Bakhmut.
That door to door urban combat is intense.


Its interesting to watch Russia's approach to the conflict. Instead of an American style balls-to-the-wall blitzkrieg of shock and awe, they're taking a very slow, drawn out systematic attrition approach. Playing the long game. Something about their culture. I've always been bigly into wrestling ever since I wrestled through my younger years(the real kind, not the WWE stuff), and the Russians always had a similar approach in the Olympics and Worlds. Very systematic, defensively sound. Never taking huge risks, so when they score on their opponent, its very difficult for the opponent to ever even get an opportunity to come back. Its a bitch to deal with.
They certainly aint stupid. And despite all our techno-wizardry, the reality on the ground seems bleaker and bleaker by the day for those poor Ukrainian souls who either have volunteered or were voluntold to the front.

UKDslayer said:

Russia Claims They Collected Evidence of Avian Flu Pathogens with Lethality Rate up to 40% in Humans at US Biolab in Ukraine | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

It wasn’t that long ago that Mitt Romney was threatening former Rep.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

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Tulsi is part of the psyop.

She is the “swallow”.

This vile fuck needs to be sent to the trenches….

pmclaine said:

This vile fuck needs to be sent to the trenches….

Lindsey Graham says 'Russians dying' is the 'best money the US spent'

Lindsey Graham said 'the Russians are dying' and 'it's the best money we've ever spent' during a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky last week.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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Yes, agreed. Spoken like a true silver spoon fag whos never had to face any real consequences for his words/actions.
Where does all this hate for Russia come from? Because they used to be the Soviet Union? That ended before I was even born, decades ago. We shouldve made a friend out of the new Russia, but instead we've ostracized them and kept acting as if they were the same Soviet enemy as before.

And a interesting quote from the article, and something I 100% believe, but that folks like Graham refuse to even consider as a possibility:
"He said Russia has 'enormous resources' and despite the war already raging for over a year, he claimed his country had not yet started to 'act very seriously'."

Forgetful Coyote said:

Sad. My heart goes out to all the families of those rounded up and sent to the meatgrinder. And those who were tricked into dying for the WEF. Many of said families probably dont even know yet their loved ones have paid the ultimate price..
Hopefully cooler heads will prevail before more needless deaths occur. Barring that or a mutiny by the enlisted men, more cities will be turned to rubble.

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Couldn't have stated it better myself. Young men dying for corrupt old men.

Sako man said:

Couldn't have stated it better myself. Young men dying for corrupt old men.

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It has only begun. What is coming will directly involve our kids and grandkids going somewhere to die to “save our country”. A draft will be the most gentle persuasion they use to sacrifice our loved ones.