Old man wants new rifle

RedRiverII said:

71 and crumbling body and health. Earlier I was told to be as specific as I could in this request. Here goes... I lost my sister May 9th, my younger beautiful sister, followed by my best Friend Barry May 10th. My family in Va. is poor and the costs of burial fell upon me. The stress kicked the living s__t out of me.(snot) I went into and remain in A-Fib.

Now to the rifle... I still like smooth and silky. I want a finely crafted action that speaks to craftsmanship and pride. I will shoot at Port Malabar R&PC in Port Malabar Florida. The range is up to 600 yards. I have not shot there on that range so I don't know what cal. I need. I came here for help. I'm open for all suggestions. I've got the money to go to including glass 5k. I can reload if needs be. I will provide more info. when necessary.

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sorry for your loss. That is rough and life is very very short!

For rifles you have a lot of options. I really like my old man's Waypoint in 6.5 Creedmoor. It's perfect out of the box and has very good accuracy. I took him bear hunting with it last week and it was perfect.

Now I do like the Seekins Havik, Sig Cross, but that's my opinon. You can build a rifle for that budget and have enough for a good piece of glass.

For that range you have a lot of caliber options, if you are just doing 600 yards then a .223 will do just fine and is affordable to shoot.

Put new glass on it and sell the Diamondback. Easy to shoot. Factory ammo easily available or reload. Great to 1000 yd.

Or if you want a badass rifle with more power, and of course more kick, here’s a nice one.

A 223 bolt gun is a ton of fun to shoot. You can shoot 75-80gr stuff to 600 easy. I'd find one used that you really like and put good glass on it. Things aren't selling for what they used to, due to folks getting eaten up by the inflation for regular expenses so there are deals to be had. 6cm is an awesome round and what I shoot most but that 223 is so much fun and a ton cheaper to shoot.

Sorry for your loss sir.

If you reload, definitely 6br. Very forgiving, long brass life, little recoil and if you have one you want nothing else

Recommendation:

- Origin barreled action from PVA - cost: $~1500
- Stock/Chassis: Any number of decent ones available in the $~500 - $800 range (KRG Bravo, MDT XRS)
- Caliber: If you're going to reload and want an amazingly accurate round that's easy to develop loads for, go 6 BR. If you want factory ammo availability, go 6.5 CM.
- Trigger: Any number of good ones in the $150 - $300 range - Triggertech is good and easy to find.
- Muzzle brake: only if you really want one: ~$150
- Rings/mount: $100 for decent rings, or call it $250 for a good mount (I like the MPA mounts for the money)

That puts you at about $2400 on the low end (excluding tax and shipping) for the rifle. ~$3k on the upper end.

For glass, find a used Vortex Razor Gen II. Glass is very good for the $$ and the all-in warranty transfers on used scopes, so you're safe from buying a lemon. You should be able to find one of the 4.5-27x for low to mid $1000.

Add in some miscellaneous and that would put you at $~4k to ~$4600 all in. You could go up on a chassis to more like $1200 and get into some really nice gear.

This would give you a premium setup. You would assemble this yourself, but it is very easy to do so with standard tools.

Schütze said:

If you reload, definitely 6br. Very forgiving, long brass life, little recoil and

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You beat me to the punch. This is a stupidly accurate round.

Schütze said:

if you have one you want nothing else

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Except a 6 BRA Though I'd recommend a BR in this case as a first rifle of this type.

Rocketmandb said:

You beat me to the punch. This is a stupidly accurate round.


Except a 6 BRA Though I'd recommend a BR in this case as a first rifle of this type.

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I’m actually thinking about a bra in the future, but the op mentioned 600y max….. I shoot a 6br at 1000 and it does better than me.

Schütze said:

I’m actually thinking about a bra in the future, but the op mentioned 600y max….. I shoot a 6br at 1000 and it does better than me.

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Yeah, no need to go to an AI shoulder at those ranges. I push the range limits on mine and like the extra ~100+ fps it gives me. Either way, BR/BRA is an easy button for sure - loading, shooting, showing off to your friends how such a small round beats their 6.X CMs all day long

RedRiverII said:

71 and crumbling body and health. Earlier I was told to be as specific as I could in this request. Here goes... I lost my sister May 9th, my younger beautiful sister, followed by my best Friend Barry May 10th. My family in Va. is poor and the costs of burial fell upon me. The stress kicked the living s__t out of me.(snot) I went into and remain in A-Fib.

Now to the rifle... I still like smooth and silky. I want a finely crafted action that speaks to craftsmanship and pride. I will shoot at Port Malabar R&PC in Port Malabar Florida. The range is up to 600 yards. I have not shot there on that range so I don't know what cal. I need. I came here for help. I'm open for all suggestions. I've got the money to go to including glass 5k. I can reload if needs be. I will provide more info. when necessary.

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Hey man, I`m 75 and know of what you speak. Sorry for your losses. Take care of that heart issue. We`re definitely in that age group where our losses are outnumbering our gains in life but that makes it all the more important to find things we enjoy!! Sounds like you`re about to do that!

Concur on a .223 if you`re shooting to 600 yards. With your 5K budget you should be able to put a first rate custom rig together. I hope to have an opportunity to shoot at a rod & gun club that has a 500 yard range . I don`t have your budget. Looking at a Savage Model 12 LRPV or F/TR in .223.
Good luck, take care, and God bless.

BuildingConceptsllc said:

A 223 bolt gun is a ton of fun to shoot. You can shoot 75-80gr stuff to 600 easy. I'd find one used that you really like and put good glass on it. Things aren't selling for what they used to do to folks getting eaten up by the inflation for regular expenses so there are deals to be had. 6cm is an awesome round and what I shoot most but that 223 is so much fun and a ton cheaper to shoot.

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This. 600 yards is no problem with 223 even with factory ammo. Mine is consistent all the way to 800 with factory 77gr Norma. They're cheap to shoot and have super low recoil.

RedRiverII said:

71 and crumbling body and health. Earlier I was told to be as specific as I could in this request. Here goes... I lost my sister May 9th, my younger beautiful sister, followed by my best Friend Barry May 10th. My family in Va. is poor and the costs of burial fell upon me. The stress kicked the living s__t out of me.(snot) I went into and remain in A-Fib.

Now to the rifle... I still like smooth and silky. I want a finely crafted action that speaks to craftsmanship and pride. I will shoot at Port Malabar R&PC in Port Malabar Florida. The range is up to 600 yards. I have not shot there on that range so I don't know what cal. I need. I came here for help. I'm open for all suggestions. I've got the money to go to including glass 5k. I can reload if needs be. I will provide more info. when necessary.

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Are you looking to relax or are you a competitive type A? And do you really get into gear? (How much gear do you already own? Like a spotter or cleaning stuff?)

Here’s my experience.

For the range, I’m more of the former as I like to hunt varmints way more than stalking paper or steel. But oddly, I find my time at the range very relaxing, and it really hits me when I’m in the car driving away.

Barring some major irritation like forgetting to bring ammo etc, after a range trip I feel blissed out for about 1-2 hours afterwards.

It doesn’t really matter how well I shoot.

So, I’m a Relaxer. But I like gear, so I like researching (relaxing to me) and using the stuff. I am not a reloader. For me, bending over loading bullets = stress.

Here’s my suggestions for Relaxer types like me. I’m the first type, although I don’t have a custom action (yet):

Relaxer + Gear Fiend = custom action + chassis + budget tier one scope

Example: Terminus Zeus action, Bartlein barrel, KRG Bravo chassis, Vortex Razor 6-36. Maybe enough money left over for a Bix ‘n Andy TacSport Pro two-stage trigger if you buy some stuff used, or get a slightly cheaper action and/or barrel/scope (and use Scott at Liberty Optics for the scope).

Not a big gear guy? Let me introduce “Easy Gear Guy” = guy that doesn’t agonize over gear. Just give ‘em what works.

Relaxer + Easy Gear Guy = Tikka Super Varmint .223 + Vortex Razor 6-36 + Arc rings = $4000 including gun case, cleaning supplies, tax, etc. (if you really want to relax, add a suppressor!)

Personally, I suggest the latter gear even if you are a Gear Fiend, as this particular Tikka has a nice two-stage trigger, includes a picatinny rail (0 MOA, however), is already threaded for a suppressor, and is just an easy button. I own one. Its stock is actually nice and different than the cheap black ones Tikka makes.

I can’t really comment if you are a type A fellow that gets pissed if you don’t perform up to your spec while at the range.

Range time is more of a meditation for me.

First I'm very sorry for you loss and your health problems. But, you aren't alone. I'm 70, 3 stents in my heart, just had lumbar fusion, and fuck all that shit I'm still going to the SH clinic in State College, PA in Sep and I'm going to shoot my ass off. Plenty of time for woe is me when I'm dead and gone. But while I'm still kicking, I find it helpful to not dwell excessively on loss and problems. Ok...I'll mind my own frakin business now! haha

So, my view is that you want to get shooting soon and not spending 9-12 months looking for parts and asking a gunsmith "is it soup yet" for a custom gun.

My suggestion is a Tikka Tac3 a1 in 6.5 CM (cause its easy to find very good factory 6.5 CM ammo and it won't wear your ass out as much as a .308) with a 24" barrel. Cost...search around but its easy to find them right at $2,200 and this one is $2,088. That leaves you $3k for optics, bipod, misc stuff like rear bag.


Here is the Razor for $3k


Tikka is an excellent rifle, made by same folks as the Sako, and the actions are very smooth (you seemed interested in that).

You can shoot this puppy out to 600 yds all day long.

P.S. if you prefer a traditional stock vs the chassis, then Tikka makes those also (dunno about quality of the stock) or I would suggestion looking at Seekins Havak rifles. Their Havak PH2 is $1,850

I had the 223 caliber immediately come to mind for 600 yard shooting. A Tikka CTR or Varmint in 223 would be my recommendation. The Tikka guns are such pleasant rifles to shoot, a great intro to bolt guns for a semiauto shooter. A KRG Bravo chassis is inexpensive and very comfortable, bedding is not needed. IMO it cannot be beat as far as quality for the dollar spent. My CTR 223 in a Bravo is one of my cheapest rifles, and one of the most fun to shoot.

It you want something custom, the 6BR would be a neat rig for sure.

ToKeepAndBear said:

I had the 223 caliber immediately come to mind for 600 yard shooting. A Tikka CTR or Varmint in 223 would be my recommendation. The Tikka guns are such pleasant rifles to shoot, a great intro to bolt guns for a semiauto shooter. A KRG Bravo chassis is inexpensive and very comfortable, bedding is not needed. IMO it cannot be beat as far as quality for the dollar spent. My CTR 223 in a Bravo is one of my cheapest rifles, and one of the most fun to shoot.

It you want something custom, the 6BR would be a neat rig for sure.

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This 100%. Tikka's are a hell of a value. Try the Tikka and decide if you need something better. You could put a lot of money into a custom rig, lose interest and take a big loss. Definitely go for good glass though.

If you want silky smooth, go custom. Lots of good actions out there. Throw on a shouldered prefit and you’re halfway there.

I’d recommend zermatt origin or arc nucleus and proof prefit, tt Diamond seems to be all the rage here, Gen 2 razor l (used). Good rings and a stock/chassis of your choice and you’re sitting at $5k.

Or go with a Burris xtriii and save a few bucks, great optic.


For 600 and in, 223 all the way. Cheap, accurate , and will hit at 600 no problem. Really for 600 and in, any caliber will be great, just depends what you wanna spend per round and how much recoil you wanna take.

Like others have said above, 600 a 223 works great. Mine hangs right with my 6.5 CM to 600 yards shooting 77smk's. I have the savage mentioned above with a 30 in fclass barrel. Recoil is like a 22 LR. Silky smooth it isn't but accurate it is... The barreled action above was a good suggestion. Since you like putting things together you could buy and action and prefit shouldered barrel, trigger and put it together yourself. Then pick the chassis or stock you like.

Sorry for your loss and hope you recover from your ills soon

I’ll beat the .223 drum as well since you’re only going to 600

As far as the rifle is concerned, the easiest button for a badass gun would be to check out one of the custom manufacturers offerings. I’ve been drooling over something from ARC ever since I first saw a Mausingfield, so that’s my bias. Lots of those rifles are built and priced to fit into a competition division so it’s well under your budget. Then just spend the rest on the best scope you can find, new or used

Rocketmandb said:

Recommendation:

- Origin barreled action from PVA - cost: $~1500
- Stock/Chassis: Any number of decent ones available in the $~500 - $800 range (KRG Bravo, MDT XRS)
- Caliber: If you're going to reload and want an amazingly accurate round that's easy to develop loads for, go 6 BR. If you want factory ammo availability, go 6.5 CM.
- Trigger: Any number of good ones in the $150 - $300 range - Triggertech is good and easy to find.
- Muzzle brake: only if you really want one: ~$150
- Rings/mount: $100 for decent rings, or call it $250 for a good mount (I like the MPA mounts for the money)

That puts you at about $2400 on the low end (excluding tax and shipping) for the rifle. ~$3k on the upper end.

For glass, find a used Vortex Razor Gen II. Glass is very good for the $$ and the all-in warranty transfers on used scopes, so you're safe from buying a lemon. You should be able to find one of the 4.5-27x for low to mid $1000.

Add in some miscellaneous and that would put you at $~4k to ~$4600 all in. You could go up on a chassis to more like $1200 and get into some really nice gear.

This would give you a premium setup. You would assemble this yourself, but it is very easy to do so with standard tools.

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I have nothing that can improve on this advice. It's good people

My condolences to the op.

Lots of good recommendations so far.
I would suggest a Sako Trg in 6.5 creedmoor
They exude silky smooth quality.
There’s nothing wrong with buying parts and doing it yourself, but if I was in the OPs position I wouldn’t want any long waits or extra headaches.
Buy a Trg or find a used AI and go shoot

I don’t have any solid advice to offer. I just wanted to express my condolences. Love that you are creating something to look forward to.

RedRiverII said:

71 and crumbling body and health. Earlier I was told to be as specific as I could in this request. Here goes... I lost my sister May 9th, my younger beautiful sister, followed by my best Friend Barry May 10th. My family in Va. is poor and the costs of burial fell upon me. The stress kicked the living s__t out of me.(snot) I went into and remain in A-Fib.

Now to the rifle... I still like smooth and silky. I want a finely crafted action that speaks to craftsmanship and pride. I will shoot at Port Malabar R&PC in Port Malabar Florida. The range is up to 600 yards. I have not shot there on that range so I don't know what cal. I need. I came here for help. I'm open for all suggestions. I've got the money to go to including glass 5k. I can reload if needs be. I will provide more info. when necessary.

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Condolences on all the hardship. I am glad you are able to look ahead to an activity that brings you joy. There's a lot here, but I might have saved some $$$ had I known all this when I started. Best wishes going forward.
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Factory or custom: Your comments about your depth of experience with gas guns lead me to wonder if you'd be happy in the long run with a factory rifle. The recommendations for Tikka are solid; I started off my precision bolt rifle journey with a T3X TAC A1 in 6.5CM and a T3X Varmint in .223 (which I immediately put into an MDT LSS-XL chassis). Accurate and smooth for sure. But I went to customs after a couple of years, and I think that would be your best path as well.

Tikka, Savage, and others have proprietary action and/or magazine "footprints" which may or may not be supported by a lot of aftermarket/third-party goodies. Most if not all (of which I'm aware) custom actions are designed using the Remington 700 (R700) action and AICS magazine footprints, so there is a degree of interchangeability with customs that is usually more limited with factory offerings.

Back to how to go about starting down the custom road in a minute.
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Caliber: It's definitely true that a .223 is plenty accurate for 600 and in; I regularly shoot mine to 1000 with 75gr ELDMs. Match-grade ammo is less expensive than larger calibers (especially if you handload) and barrel life is far beyond what you'd get with a 6.5CM. Some recommendations appeared above for 6BR; if you want a bit more oomph than a .223, it's a solid choice and there is some overlap with .223 wrt powder choices. I really like mine. Imo, going to a larger caliber than 6BR for 600 yards or closer is pointless - unless you simply want, literally, more bang and don't care about spending more bucks to get it.

(Hint: whatever caliber you choose, keep a log of rounds fired - when barrels wear out, their accuracy and consistency fall off in a surprisingly short window so it's good to have an idea of when barrel end of life is likely approaching).
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How to start with a custom: You're here on SH at the outset, and that will probably save you some $$ in the long run. My suggestion right up front is to call Greg or Russ at Southern Precision Rifles (SPR, http://www.bugholes.com). They sell a variety of different actions (and barrels, triggers, brakes, etc.) at great prices, and I know through experience that their advice and follow-through are solid. I'd suggest a Zermatt Origin action ($900, appears to be in stock) or similar which can take pre-fit barrels. Additionally, the interchangeable bolt head allows you to run, say, .223 and 6BR ammo with the same bolt - way cheaper than multiple bolts (ask me how I know). They should be able to help you get into a custom rig for around $2500-3000 not including optic. This will leave you $2k for a scope and rings, which will get you a good mid-tier optic (which is a whole 'nother subject). I'll also note that I have rifles built on entry-level custom actions (Terminus Apollo in my case) and top-of the line actions (Defiance Deviant). You don't give up a thing accuracy-wise across the spectrum, all else (especially barrels) being equal.

Whether to put your barreled action into a chassis or stock is a completely personal choice, and you should get comfortable with the idea that your choice may change with experience. I prefer an all-aluminum chassis - I own both MDT ACC and MPA BA Comp, but both of these would break your budget (or leave no $$ for an optic). There are other less-expensive options but I have no experience with them other than the MDT LSS-XL. My buddy @Rob01 prefers stocks and may weigh in with advice and pricing on Manners or others, most or all of which have built-in "mini-chassis" which mitigate the need for bedding. It's worth noting that some people will tell you to bed a chassis or anything else, but I've never found it necessary.

I don't see stocks or chassis on SPR's website, but I'm sure they could advise/assist.

Finally, there are many vendors who can help you, and other SH members may weigh in with recommendations. For example, I've also worked with James at Northland Shooters Supply - great experience.
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I hope all this helps.

My 2 cents. Brenda Lea is shooting a 223. She’s been good out to 700 yards. However, spotting hits has bee a probleM. I recommend going a bit larger. One of the factory 6’s, or even a 6.5. Makes a big splash on the target as well as a resounding clang.

NewsShooter said:

Like others have said above, 600 a 223 works great. Mine hangs right with my 6.5 CM to 600 yards shooting 77smk's. I have the savage mentioned above with a 30 in fclass barrel. Recoil is like a 22 LR. Silky smooth it isn't but accurate it is... The barreled action above was a good suggestion. Since you like putting things together you could buy and action and prefit shouldered barrel, trigger and put it together yourself. Then pick the chassis or stock you like.

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A 223 with 77gr bullets does not hang with a 6.5 CM to 600 yards. Twice the wind drift. I do agree that a 223 with 77gr bullets is plenty to have a good time banging steel at 600 yards.

RedRiverII said:

Sending a grateful thank you to the folks posting here on this page. You picked up on the theme of a guy in trouble health wise, and was keen enough to seek a new hobby to look forward to. A special thank you to @DownhillFromHere for his wonderful post. You all helped me form an opinion and begin down a path of interest. The a-fib attack just stopped, I mean just stopped at 5pm May 30th. I am now in normal sinus rhythm. I suffered through 13 days of horror. Having a-fib feels like you're about to die at any moment, the heart beat irregular and pumps strong the weak. A spurt here and a flush there and no end in sight. I had better mention a rifle right quick and pray that this post is not going too far past the rules. I'm about to call Greg or Russ right after I walk the pup. Walking the dog will be joyful, believe that. I will choose a caliber and go from there. 6mmBR is in the lead for now, just in case I need to push past 600. Thank you folks, what a lucky guy I am.

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Good luck with your journey and health . My brother has lived with a-fib for awhile now .He had a procedure to alleviate the flutter and now awaits another procedure to take care of the other part of the heart a-fib messes with . Scary stuff but he is managing , we went fishing the other day and he smiled through it . Take care .

PVA origin barreled action $1675
Trigger Tech Primary $175
KRG Bravo $370
Total $2220- call it $2500 with a few mags and shipping.
That leaves enough for a Burris XTR3 pro, Ziess S3 or any optic you want under $2500.
I would go 6BR over 223 just for the better drift and the fact that it's easy to find a hummer load for. But 223/223 AI are very valid options.
If you don't like the Bravo you can flip it for near full value, and KRG has a metric sh!t ton of upgrades.

Malabar is big into highpower isn't it? Have you considered giving Gary Eliseo @ Competition Shooting Stuff a call? He can put a right nice tube gun together for you that can be multi dimensional, varmint to competition.

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I decided to go 6mmBR on a chassis.

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Great choice , 6 BR is will bring a smile to your face . Enjoy the fun .

Another advantage I can see with 6.5 C is the parts are widely available. For example, a mag for .308 W will also hold 6.5 C. Everyone and his cousin's dog is making ammo for it, almost as ubiquitous as the .308 W.

In the small font of the list of threads, I saw this is as 'Old man wants new wife'.

I think I want new glasses and a nap.

Dobermann said:

In the small font of the list of threads, I saw this is as 'Old man wants new wife'.

I think I want new glasses and a nap.

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I’m so glad I’m not the only one who (at a quick passing glance) thought this title sounded like a wanted ad for a rich old dude looking for a hot young thing to be their sugar daddy.

I was fixing to say, I think you’re on the wrong site bro…

RedRiverII said:

I wouldn't know what to do with a new wife. I got the old one for 33 years now and still haven't got it worked out.

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Your choice on 6br gives you some extra reloading room time if needed….

Its a drive and any way to coordinate a range day at Altus with a few Hiders I know in that area?

Let this man try several rifles and feel a stock vs a chassis and what not.

@Mike Casselton
@lash
@Schütze
@atepointer

Or come up to CO and we high plains hillbillies will have a rack of rifles and boxes of ammo for ya to try.

powdahound76 said:

Its a drive and any way to coordinate a range day at Altus with a few Hiders I know in that area?

Let this man try several rifles and feel a stock vs a chassis and what not.

@Mike Casselton
@lash
@Schütze
@atepointer

Or come up to CO and we high plains hillbillies will have a rack of rifles and boxes of ammo for ya to try.

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Can I play too?

Altus?
Holy crap!! Isn't that above the Mason-Dixon line?

We're almost 8 hours from there.

Mike Casselton said:

Altus?
Holy crap!! Isn't that above the Mason-Dixon line?

We're almost 8 hours from there.

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Sorry.
Was mixed up from JTAC…..

Writing an education piece for work about the proper treatment of penile fractures and my poor brain was in a bit of an anxious panic and not workin right.

Mike Casselton said:

Altus?
Holy crap!! Isn't that above the Mason-Dixon line?

We're almost 8 hours from there.

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That’s the Macy-Dixie line, and yes, it’s a bit of a haul there from here.



@RedRiverII, whereabouts in F L A did you say you were located? There’s a pretty active bunch of shooters here in Flor-I-da and most are very willing to help out a new or any fellow shooter.

The D said:

Can I play too?

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Is you hill peoples or uppity?

Yer affinity for them weird yuppy mobiles from krautboy land has me worried you aint quite right….


Of course!!!
Might even let Frank come if he will let my 11 yr old kid shoot his rifle (they are the same size).

powdahound76 said:

Sorry.
Was mixed up from JTAC…..

Writing an education piece for work about the proper treatment of penile fractures and my poor brain was in a bit of an anxious panic and not workin right.

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Penile fractures?!? You mean like “Bent it hell, I damn near broke it!”?

lash said:

Penile fractures?!? You mean like “Bent it hell, I damn near broke it!”?

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Nope.
Like usin it quick like and bend it real quick….
Works as good as bending a 3’ florescent tube bulb.
There is a reported “popping” sound.

Fractures(tears) one of 2 things inside yer dinger, hurts like hell from the one’s I have seen.

RedRiverII said:

I have absolutely thought about a trip to the High Plains all by my lonesome to visit some LR folks. Just returned from a Dr. appt about the a-fib I recently suffered, of course the Mrs needed to attend in case I forgot to ask for a 90 day supply. One question is one question too many for this feeble minded soul ( in her mind anyway ). I need a break from the norm, too much of the same routine. Maybe take a SH class and relax.

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Also, to add in, sorry for that mess of loss and sadness you had to deal with.
Terrible stuff.

Afib aint a joke (as you have learned). Glad you have converted back to Normal Sinus.
Hopefully just a little beta blocker and you can skip the blood thinner BS.

Change is good.

The FL boys can do a dang good job helping you get on the right track.
Dont tell em I said so and @Mike Casselton and @lash are damn good guys.
Cant shoot worth a damn and good guys.

powdahound76 said:

Is you hill peoples or uppity?

Yer affinity for them weird yuppy mobiles from krautboy land has me worried you aint quite right….


Of course!!!
Might even let Frank come if he will let my 11 yr old kid shoot his rifle (they are the same size).

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I may live in that there big city now but I was born in the hinterlands and I’ll die in the hinterlands

The D said:

I may live in that there big city now but I was born in the hinterlands and I’ll die in the hinterlands

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Me too.
From between a cornfield and a cattle pen.
Shoulda never left.

Miss it now more than ever raising a kid in the hellhole called Denver