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Terminus Actions

Heavier than a Tikka? I’ve always found the Tikka to be pretty heavy anyway, smooth as hell, but heavy. It’s light and easy once it’s cocked but I’ve gotta use my thumb on the back of the action every time I’m cocking my Tikka.

I’m looking to replace my NBK with a Terminus for the 60 degree throw but I’m not excited about the bolt lift being heavier than a Tikka. I don’t know anybody who’s owns one and hate having to buy it just to see what it’s like but I may have to just go for it. Been wanting one for a while now.
OK I was completely wrong. I was playing with it without the trigger installed and not in a stock. My rifle is complete now and it's the most amazing rifle I could imagine. Once it's all together it makes the Tikka seem like a child's toy.
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Where are people sourcing barrels for the Zues? I know a few places but was wondering what others are doing or who they are going to.
John beanland. It's called beanland custom rifles. His turnaround was super quick and the threads lok perfect. I got a 6 dasher barrel and a 308 barrel in the Zeus quick change
 
A few more things I should mention that's reading this thread made me a little nervous about.
1. I have the regular mdt acc premier chassis and the regular mdt aics mags both plastic and metal and they both run perfectly with 308 and 6 dasher without any tinkering or changing the height of the mag catch. I did finally get my 6bra (dasher) mdt aics mags yesterday so I should have time to try them out in a few days. The only difference is they have the spacers in the back for the short rounds so I'd imagine they will work.
B. It feeds ridiculously smooth out of these magazines. There's some posts in this thread that say you have to use the aw or arc or something magazines, maybe, but I couldn't be happier with my setup.
3. I got to compare it to the impact 737r at the range a few days ago. I'm so happy I didn't go with the impact. The bolt almost hits the scope, fuck that 90 degree shit. It doesn't feel any smother than the terminus either.
 
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Did you just email them?
I just called him it's way easier 580 471 3380. If you want, tell him Lou Scarborough from the Elmer gun company sent you, the dude that just got the dasher and 308 barrel. He's a super good guy and it's also who Joel recommended. If anyone in south jersey wants a terminus let me know
 
A few more things I should mention that's reading this thread made me a little nervous about.
1. I have the regular mdt acc premier chassis and the regular mdt aics mags both plastic and metal and they both run perfectly with 308 and 6 dasher without any tinkering or changing the height of the mag catch. I did finally get my 6bra (dasher) mdt aics mags yesterday so I should have time to try them out in a few days. The only difference is they have the spacers in the back for the short rounds so I'd imagine they will work.
B. It feeds ridiculously smooth out of these magazines. There's some posts in this thread that say you have to use the aw or arc or something magazines, maybe, but I couldn't be happier with my setup.
3. I got to compare it to the impact 737r at the range a few days ago. I'm so happy I didn't go with the impact. The bolt almost hits the scope, fuck that 90 degree shit. It doesn't feel any smother than the terminus either.
I have one of each (Terminus Zeus & Impact 737)

They are both capable actions with their owns quirks / strengths / weaknesses.
 
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Is anyone running their Zeus with AW magazines?

If so, what chassis or stock and bottom metal combination are you using?

-Stan
I have two Terminus Zeus in MPA BA Comp and ESR Chassis.
AW mags run well in both with the MPA Mag Block glued into the chassis mag wells;

In saying that, the Gen2 MDT BR mags are my preference for 6BRX and 6Dasher. The followers do not tilt at all and I'm more confident in them.
As Franco says above, if a AW with HRD kit gets messy it's all over.
AW with Creed etc is all ok.
 
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I have two Terminus Zeus in MPA BA Comp and ESR Chassis.
AW mags run well in both with the MPA Mag Block glued into the chassis mag wells;

In saying that, the Gen2 MDT BR mags are my preference for 6BRX and 6Dasher. The followers do not tilt at all and I'm more confident in them.
Thank you!

-Stan
 
Is anyone running their Zeus with AW magazines?

If so, what chassis or stock and bottom metal combination are you using?

-Stan
Zeus 300 NM AI magazines in Foundation with no issues at all. Slick as snot on glass...
 
What’s the consensus on a long action Zeus with the Hawkins magazine spacer kit to run short action cartridges too?

I’d like to build a 280AI with a fluted 3b contour barrel for hunting and have a 26” 6CM comp contour for steel. It would be great to be able to do it all on 1 action.

Barbour Creek has a couple videos where they swap barrels. Seems to feed both long and short action rounds fine. I snipped a pic from the video and it looks like the Hawkins spacer kit.

 

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What’s the consensus on a long action Zeus with the Hawkins magazine spacer kit to run short action cartridges too?

I’d like to build a 280AI with a fluted 3b contour barrel for hunting and have a 26” 6CM comp contour for steel. It would be great to be able to do it all on 1 action.

Barbour Creek has a couple videos where they swap barrels. Seems to feed both long and short action rounds fine. I snipped a pic from the video and it looks like the Hawkins spacer kit.
I'd like to know that too.
 
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Trying to find a Zeus LA--whats the lead time ordering direct from website--everyone else seems out. (And FML on a barreled actions)
 
if anyone is running a proof prefit or preferred barrel blank chambers by a smith. I would like to here your experience and accuracy. Photos would be a nice addition. Thanks
 
Zues qc proof prefit from Altus had my little helper put it together 10 shot group factory ammo 6creed
 

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Nice rig. Building something similar soon. What’s your final weight?
Not sure exactly what it finished at. I’ve used it in a variety of configurations with suppressors and brakes, and weight wasn’t a big concern for me. Originally had it in an HNT 26 but wasn’t a fan of the chassis. I also installed a full length pic rain on the Kratos lite instead of the two short rails it normally uses because it worked better with the mounting length of my scope.
 
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Not sure exactly what it finished at. I’ve used it in a variety of configurations with suppressors and brakes, and weight wasn’t a big concern for me. Originally had it in an HNT 26 but wasn’t a fan of the chassis. I also installed a full length pic rain on the Kratos lite instead of the two short rails it normally uses because it worked better with the mounting length of my scope.
Looked to be an NX8 4-32?

Mine will be a Bartlein Rem/Var carbon finished at 24, Kratos Lite. Still debating on stock and scope. Likely a Manners PH with NX8. Want it to be reasonably light and handy.
 
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For reference on parts, rifle I posted above is about 7.5 pounds without an optic or suppressor
 
Where did you source the barrels?
He had the 6mm in stock and I got the 308 barrel on a black friday sale at stockys stocks. They shipped it to him directly, he spun it up and shipped them together to me.
 
John beanland. It's called beanland custom rifles. His turnaround was super quick and the threads lok perfect. I got a 6 dasher barrel and a 308 barrel in the Zeus quick change
Joel recommended him as well. I just picked up a Krieger blank and it’s being drop shipped to him.
 
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Got my Zeus a month or so ago and just started shooting it. I'm coming from a Tikka and this is my first R700 footprint action. I read a lot on here and Reddit about the Zeus being "sooo smooth" but I have to say I'm a little let down. The Tikka (I have 3) action is by far, way smoother. pushing/pulling the bolt forward is effortless and can be done without thinking about how you're doing it, and it will never bind. Only way to bind it is to purposely push if off to the side. The Zeus is not that, it has a rougher sound when it slides forward and has some play that can cause binding if you're running it wrong. After some repetition, it seems pretty good, but if I wanna run it super fast, it feels a little grabby. I say this not to knock the action, I think I may end up liking it, but I wanted to put this out there to see if this is what they're all like. The machining is flawless, so I can't imagine it's built out of spec. I will say that closing the bolt on a round is even more enjoyable on the Zeus than the Tikka. It locks into place nicely. I've tried a bunch of difference greases/lubes and also tried dry. I find a dry bolt body with greased lugs is the best combo. How is everyone lubing theirs?
 
I'm definitely looking forward to a Terminus Zeus QC for a custom build, but haven't decided the cartridge yet- probably 7prc, 300prc, or 300NM. Maybe I'll talk myself into a 338NM...
 
Got my Zeus a month or so ago and just started shooting it. I'm coming from a Tikka and this is my first R700 footprint action. I read a lot on here and Reddit about the Zeus being "sooo smooth" but I have to say I'm a little let down. The Tikka (I have 3) action is by far, way smoother. pushing/pulling the bolt forward is effortless and can be done without thinking about how you're doing it, and it will never bind. Only way to bind it is to purposely push if off to the side. The Zeus is not that, it has a rougher sound when it slides forward and has some play that can cause binding if you're running it wrong. After some repetition, it seems pretty good, but if I wanna run it super fast, it feels a little grabby. I say this not to knock the action, I think I may end up liking it, but I wanted to put this out there to see if this is what they're all like. The machining is flawless, so I can't imagine it's built out of spec. I will say that closing the bolt on a round is even more enjoyable on the Zeus than the Tikka. It locks into place nicely. I've tried a bunch of difference greases/lubes and also tried dry. I find a dry bolt body with greased lugs is the best combo. How is everyone lubing theirs?
I’ve had my zues for awhile now and I’ve never had it bind no matter how I’ve run it pushi it to one side or the other and it just works. So idk 🤷‍♂️ and for lube I just use a light coat of Lucas gun oil on the body and Lucas grease in the lugs.
 
Noticed a difference I’m guessing around 3-400( that’s fired rounds) it’s seems smoother evertime out
 
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that's what I'm thinking, but how long we talkin here? between dry fire (a lot) and shooting i've probably cycled it 300 times
It gets smoother as you fire more rounds, but you need to be behind the gun. Grease on the lugs and oil of choice on the bolt and raceways. Lube/grease lightly inside the shroud where the firing pin sits, a small amount on the face of the bolt shroud, caulking cam, and lugs. I had some purple grease on the bolt when it arrived, not sure what type of grease Joel uses. I have a Tikka and the bolt lift is heavier than my Zeus. New the Zeus is pretty heavy until it wears in and then it gets smoother probably due to the new heavy firing pin spring. In the Zeus if you run a heavy trigger the bolt lift will be heavy no doubt but if you run a 3 oz trigger you can feel the difference in the bolt lift. The stock firing pin in the Zeus is pretty heavy until it gets worn in.
 
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In the Zeus if you run a heavy trigger the bolt lift will be heavy no doubt but if you run a 3 oz trigger you can feel the difference in the bolt lift. The stock firing pin in the Zeus is pretty heavy until it gets worn in.
The pull weight of the trigger has no relation to the bolt lift weight. Bolt lift weight is a function of the cocking piece moving up the the cocking ramp which is retracting the firing pin assembly/compressing the firing pin spring. Although not clear on what you mean by the firing pin getting worn in, a properly designed firing pin assembly with quality parts (which the Terminus most certainly qualifies) will outlive you and there is no firing pin/spring "break in" period.

As the action gets it's first several hundred cycles there is a discernible change in bolt opening and closing, but I suspect that more the mating of cocking piece and the bolt ramp and cocking piece holding notch (where the cocking piece is positioned at full bolt open rotation) than anything else.
 
Has anyone ever compared the Zeus to a Lone Peak Fuzion? I know the Fuzion is 90 degrees. Curious if the Fuzion was "smoother" and less prone to binding than the Zeus?
 
Has anyone ever compared the Zeus to a Lone Peak Fuzion? I know the Fuzion is 90 degrees. Curious if the Fuzion was "smoother" and less prone to binding than the Zeus?
The Lone Peak Fuzion is a smooth action, but I completely disagree that the Zeus (or any Terminus) is "prone to binding", there are none smoother. Get in touch with Joel, he'll take a look at it and if there is a problem he'll take care of it. I've built dozens of rifles with Terminus actions, never had any one of them exhibit binding.
 
Got my Zeus a month or so ago and just started shooting it. I'm coming from a Tikka and this is my first R700 footprint action. I read a lot on here and Reddit about the Zeus being "sooo smooth" but I have to say I'm a little let down. The Tikka (I have 3) action is by far, way smoother. pushing/pulling the bolt forward is effortless and can be done without thinking about how you're doing it, and it will never bind. Only way to bind it is to purposely push if off to the side. The Zeus is not that, it has a rougher sound when it slides forward and has some play that can cause binding if you're running it wrong. After some repetition, it seems pretty good, but if I wanna run it super fast, it feels a little grabby. I say this not to knock the action, I think I may end up liking it, but I wanted to put this out there to see if this is what they're all like. The machining is flawless, so I can't imagine it's built out of spec. I will say that closing the bolt on a round is even more enjoyable on the Zeus than the Tikka. It locks into place nicely. I've tried a bunch of difference greases/lubes and also tried dry. I find a dry bolt body with greased lugs is the best combo. How is everyone lubing theirs?
Post some pics of your Zeus!
 
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