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Shot show 2024

wanna know how I know that Shit Show is going to be useless this year?

Because a whole page of SS24 on the hide is full of a bunch of schoolboys pulling hair and scratching eyes on the playground because one called the other's BB gun a Retard Ranger
 
it seems the industry is better at solving problems that don't exist than it is at identifying legitimate new problems

Yea, can't really argue here. I'm only in on this one because I like trying new stuff. And I like the size of it.

The rest, I'll think more on. Currently, not sure if it's really a "thing" or not.
 

Manners patent panding thingy looks kinda like micro chassis Raven stock has been using for a while now

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You're not wrong, with the number of lever guns being released at shot, it makes me think industry is hedging their bets on a semi auto ban should dems win in '24.
Not just lever guns... recently Aero getting into bolt actions & chassis, PSA announcing bolt actions & pump shotguns. Same for Larue (2023) & Seekins (2021)

I'm not reading into it too much though. The AR fad is a little long in the tooth & some of the AR mfgs are looking elsewhere for revenue. Everyone already has a different AR to go with every shade of nail polish in their drawer
 
Massive upgrade to their smoking pile of overpriced shit , now it comes painted with cerkote 🤪
True. I just noticed someone asked so I posted the info. They also got heavier from what the article said and continue to use the ARMS mount.
 
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You're not wrong, with the number of lever guns being released at shot, it makes me think industry is hedging their bets on a semi auto ban should dems win in '24.
It has more to do with the trend being tactical lever actions. AR15s and Gucci glocks are over and done, boring. Even the lever action craze is starting to fizzle out but as usual large corporations are late to the game. Just like they're late with the PRS bolt action trend

Trend right now is starting to shift towards double stack 1911s because they're starting to be more affordable and more options are becoming available. Springfield Prodigy brought in the attention because Stacattos are not for the poors.

SDS Imports latest import of Tisas optic ready 2011s will fuel the trend. Beretta sorta jumped in with the 92XI but it's not really a 2011. Rock Island sitting on their ass without an optics ready version, too busy with their 5.0E.

When you see all the larger corporations put a 2011 out is when you know the trend is at the tail end of the popularity cycle.
 
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You're not wrong, with the number of lever guns being released at shot, it makes me think industry is hedging their bets on a semi auto ban should dems win in '24.

More than likely the semi auto market is beat to death and there is little room left for innovation without a completely outside the box product that could be a hard sell to compete with the cheaper and more plentiful AR and AK designs.

Lever action design however peaked in the late 1800’s with only the BLR being a modern iteration. Since pretty much everything on the market currently is just a rehash of a century old design there is plenty of room to introduce new models with a more modern take on an American classic.
 
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All I want to know is whether B&T is going to import more FEG HD-18s or if KUSA or PSA is going to make an Tigr clone. I would take either over the heap of 10mm pistol variants being announced.
 
The whole firearms and reloading industries are stale. Just rehashed shit with a different color. Zero innovation.

Just higher prices for rebadged or dumb shit. At least Larue knows people pay money for stupid stuff and they produce stupid stuff for sale. Genius.

SHOT hasn’t been interesting since like 2014.

It would be cool to see a motorized remake of the G.T. Smiley case trimmer just because they’re cool.
 
Re: S&W 1854: Am I the only one who wonders why they didn't make it a 45 long colt? Will the "1:20" RH Twist 8-Groove Rifling" stabilize heavies? Is the OAL long enough to feed heavies in the 44 Mag? I looked on the S&W website and the answer is not obvious to me.
 
Would love to see some automatic induction annealers & updates to mainstream powder throwers

Kestrel is overdue for an overhaul... but I'm pretty sure product innovation isn't in Neilsen-Kellerman's wheelhouse, or NK's PE owner's wheelhouse. Is Revic still working on this? Revic announced that in Feb 2019 lol

Completely assuming it's a new terrapin or something new in the consumer line.
would be cool to see the Vector lrf binos updated w/ higher magnification
 
Someone make make a single stage press similar to the SAC, but pneumatically actuated with a foot pedal. Or electric, whatever. Hands free single stage.

Or just get a Dillon with a case feeder and auto drive.

The absolute straightest and most accurate ammo I’ve ever loaded was on a Dillon 650 with floating tool heads. It was straighter than was came off of my coax.
 
Or just get a Dillon with a case feeder and auto drive.

The absolute straightest and most accurate ammo I’ve ever loaded was on a Dillon 650 with floating tool heads. It was straighter than was came off of my coax.

Have a mark 7 apex 10. But only goes up to .308.

Calling Dillon this week to spec out an xl750 for magnums and then grabbing a drive.
 
Have a mark 7 apex 10. But only goes up to .308.

Calling Dillon this week to spec out an xl750 for magnums and then grabbing a drive.
I don't know if Dillon has changed their policy, but in the past they have said that putting an Autodrive on a 650/750 voids the presses warranties.

I have 2 x 650's with Autodrives. They both work fine.

If I had it to do all over again, I'd go with the larger Dillon presses (1050/1100). A lot more room to work with and more holes for dies. The 650's are a PITA when making adjustments and clearing jams.
 
I don't know if Dillon has changed their policy, but in the past they have said that putting an Autodrive on a 650/750 voids the presses warranties.

I have 2 x 650's with Autodrives. They both work fine.

If I had it to do all over again, I'd go with the larger Dillon presses (1050/1100). A lot more room to work with and more holes for dies. The 650's are a PITA when making adjustments and clearing jams.

Isn't the 1050/1100 limited to .308 size and smaller? Need to do magnums. Specifically all of the PRC family.
 
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Isn't the 1050/1100 limited to .308 size and smaller? Need to do magnums. Specifically all of the PRC family.
Could be. I've not paid very much attention to their larger presses because I have the 650's.

If you have a Dillon dealer in your area that has them set up, it would probably be worth the visit to look at the differences. I did visit Dillon in Scottsdale last November. Of course, they had the presses all set up. The sales guy (good guy) started rattling off all the features/differences and my eyes started to roll back in my head pretty quickly. He probably did say something about .308 being the largest caliber for the big presses and it just went in one ear and out the other.

I've got too much money invested in the presses, Autodrives and parts to change course now. I only load 9mm and .45 ACP on them and they do a good job.

What I didn't realize with Autodrives is that you have to be watching them like a hawk. If an adjustment on the press drifts or something goes out of whack, you're going to make a LOT of "bad" ammunition very quickly. You'll also want an automated primer filler. Doing primers manually with an Autodrive equipped machine will lead to suicide.
 
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