Made for a very small user group that will order very small numbers of them.
I can't imagine anti-material rifles have any role in modern militaries beyond the most niche ones.
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Made for a very small user group that will order very small numbers of them.
I can't imagine anti-material rifles have any role in modern militaries beyond the most niche ones.
Yeah, but we would have to see the top to tell for sure if they got rid of that hardware. I imagine they did as I agree that it appears that to bolster sales they gouged out as much cost as possible while retaining main features.
I have two rifles in later versions of the OG JAE and I still love them. They are very rigid.
I did a few things to make it fit a bit better. Got rid of their butt pad (which I did not like at all) and put on a thin Kick-eez and reduced the LOP by almost .75”….haha, I think. Between .5 and .75.
I have Tyler Kemp’s grips on them to move the grip front strap forward and reduce the reach to the trigger shoe. Very important for those of us who never played in the NBA! lol
Newer chassis offerer a wider range of adjustment and it seems rifle shooters have come to understand that you need to make the gun fit the shooter and not the other way around.
The main thing I wish the JAE had was an adjustable butt pad. I don’t care as much about canting the toe out to fit my shoulder pocket as I would a shotgun as I don’t shoot 22 lbs rifles across my body and off-hand. Haha. My butt pad is far inward where that’s not a big issue.
But I would like to adjust the pad vertically. Really, move it up a bit. I can have my buddy grind up some adjustable butt hardware (as we use on skeet guns) but that would eat up my LOP reduction from the thinner pad.
I still really like my JAE. However, in the next few months I’ll have a full up Vision with all the adjustments of new chassis. Even an adjustment up/down for the bag rider. I don’t know that I’ll like it (prob will love it) but I’ll give it a try. I almost feel like I’m cheating on my JAE’s.
One of mine. Cheers
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It's a capability they need to retain. The m107 is getting phased out in favor of the mk22 with 338 for AM. It and imo the 50 do not have enough room for modern warheads hence the bigger 45 gun vs a 150 or 200 lb 20mm. There will be places and times where you can't call in an airstrike and won't have something like a jav with you.
It's another reason why the army needed the NLOS fires system they refunded years ago. Cheap , portable long range smart missles that can used as indirect fire support. Can be used in places where you can't have an arty battery.
Knowing cadex that gun will cost 20k bare
Its listed at 16k $ at Shot
So the additional <2mm of bullet diameter makes it large enough for modern warheads?
Give us an example of when you can’t call in an air strike/drone strike.
Don’t get me wrong, gigantic rifles are kewl, and military procurement can be fucked, but I guarantee you that shooting guns for actual anti-material is as much bullshit when a global hawk can do X1000 without risking men. The reason for this rifle would be you didn’t have the money for air support or hundreds of missile equipped drones. Maybe on Canada’s defense budget this is the best they can do, but I don’t see it as anything other than a funny-car sniper rifle.
Taurus and Poormetto both released bolt guns this year. Which will be the king of the trailer park?
A 44 pound 6ft long rifle is pretty dumb when you could carry a few of these and have greater effect. no NLOS system needed. https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/ne...ld-get-this-40-mm-laser-guided-grenade-round/
SOF was using this with great effect. Being harassed by a PKM along a ridgline 2000m out, bye bye!
It means if you were to drop something onto this screen and break it, or whatever, you can easily buy a replacement screen off Amazon for not many dollars.
Sof were in Iraq killing people and shit for 6 months before bushes whole surrender or we invade. The public support would have been shit if we knew they were lying about wmd and the threat to surrender. Lots of other examples like maybe "ukrainians" going into Russia to kill people and shit or "trainers" inbedded in other conflicts we don't want to admit.
If the capability was not needed it wouldn't be speced in solicitations.
Mag adjustments are still there. I confirmed.
No booth. They're just walking. I ran into them on Wednesday.
That Gen2 Bravo seems nice for sure.
The Walnut MDT is pretty neat...I wasn't expecting that.
Hornady HIT indicators.
MDT's version. No lights, just sound effects at your bases station. Uses radio comms between receivers...two mile LOS capabilities, if using just "ping" sounds, you can have unlimited targets, or designate up to 8 identified targets.
Nighforce's new spotter is sharp, compact and pretty neat. $3,000 slick....a tad over $3,000 if you want the cage.
Available in MiL, MOA, and Tremor-4.
New thermals from AGM.
The Walnut MDT is pretty neat...I wasn't expecting that.
Hornady HIT indicators.
MDT's version. No lights, just sound effects at your bases station. Uses radio comms between receivers...two mile LOS capabilities, if using just "ping" sounds, you can have unlimited targets, or designate up to 8 identified targets.
Nighforce's new spotter is sharp, compact and pretty neat. $3,000 slick....a tad over $3,000 if you want the cage.
Available in MiL, MOA, and Tremor-4.
New thermals from AGM.
Has the new ZCO MPCT 1X reticle been mentioned?
These are screen shots from an interview.
These are screen shots from an interview.
Been going to shot for over 10 years now and this was the weakest year. No Sig,Vortex, Zeiss and others. Still fun but not the best year.
reconnaissance. Taking detailed pics of the SAC booth
Not super exciting, but I'm kind of interested in this new scope. Reticle is basic mill & suits my needs. Short, light, locking, zero stop.
@gr8fuldoug posted it in one of his shot blogs. Any word on when it'll be available?
gpo-usa.com
@gr8fuldoug posted it in one of his shot blogs. Any word on when it'll be available?
CENTURI 4-16x44i FFP Super Compact – GPO USA
Experience excellence in tactical optics with the CENTURI 4-16x44i Super-Compact FFP Riflescope. At 9.9 inches, it combines FFP precision, double HD glass, MIL-based reticle, and zero-stop locking turrets for short ultralight tactical rifles.
gpo-usa.com 
Did they mention if it will fit trigger hangers without a mod?
Re: KRG new offerings & CTR mags
I didn’t quite catch if any of the updates KRG chassis will be CTR compatible?
I didn’t quite catch if any of the updates KRG chassis will be CTR compatible?
It has the mag adjustment for the fitment of the mag? Only appears to be an adjustment for the barricade stop. Though it looks like it has dowel pins like the ACC Elite.
Generals are the hookers to MICImagine the cost savings if the hooker was the general…
Pretty smart to finally release a 2-in-1 mount. Wish I hadnt already bought their arca-only mount like 6 months ago..
It's part of the mag release. You're talking the adjustment for tweaking the mag height in the magwell, correct?
I didn't ask and she didn't mention. Sorry.
According to John Ross those AM rifles are great for shooting down ATF helicopters. They sold them in magazines as Nazi surplus as late as 1957.
$2,868.10 with a 100 round case in 2024 dollars. I'll take four, and an additional ten cases of ammo.
$2,868.10 with a 100 round case in 2024 dollars. I'll take four, and an additional ten cases of ammo.
I ended up getting their Arca mount for my FC4-G2, figured the bipod itself was a sunken cost by then, instead of buying something else. Liked it overall, but really wanted arca for it..which I am new to.
To solve for the 2-in-1 mount dilemma, I bought one for my Atlas bipod instead, off the hide. A RRS-SOAR, which is an impressive piece of mount.
Now the Accu-tac lives on my heavy ass MPA rifle...as an arca-only bipod, and my new Atlas CAL Gen 2 is the dual purpose.
Eventually I might grab a picatinny-only mount as well...to keep on the stuff that wont get an Arca rail, like my oryx chassis Tikka 22..
No matter the issue, the industry finds a way to sell us something
However, Accu-tac would carve out an even larger chunk of the overall bipod market, if other companies started offering mounts compatible for their bipods..
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Data sheet on FLIR thermal.
> designed for sniper applications
>big ol fuckoff reflective dome lens
you’d think they’d do something about it for that application.
>big ol fuckoff reflective dome lens
you’d think they’d do something about it for that application.
Tell me you don’t have a clue about thermal without telling me you don’t have a clue about thermal.
I know it may have been mentioned but if you haven't check out CameraLandNY/ @gr8fuldoug Excellent daily summaries.
Also thanks to all those who posted updates, didn't go off topic on DDs and put up with my constant whining for TB updates.
Also thanks to all those who posted updates, didn't go off topic on DDs and put up with my constant whining for TB updates.
put a different way: since obscuring the lens is not an option, you would think they would have used a different objective design that did not have the reflective nature of the one shown.
I’ve dealt with thermals for coyote and hog hunting (borrowed units for now)
Are you making an assumption here, or do you know for sure it's reflective enough to matter?
That would imply they completely overlooked something that is pretty standard practice to make sure doesn't happen.
Hundreds of Flips? 100 flips is $1.5million
If you forget it is listed in @johnnycat excellent Flips summary. It's post 190 in the Legendary Thread.
For those that don't know 1 Flip is set at $15,000USD
I thought a flip was approx $7K?
Nope. Flips was trying to sell the scopes for $15,000.
These are primarily used at times when there is no light to reflect off the lens.
Like FLIR would even sell to anyone not submitting their order under .mil letterhead.
Alright finally saw the sac press, I dig it. Not sure if I'd dump my co ax for it but if I was starting fresh, I'd probably pick it up. A friend and I was discussing what if they made a turret head for the zero press that allowed the user to switch out dies with their lok ring 
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