From ZCO's shot reel...
Who's got the details?
Who's got the details?
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I need it
Sweet, I recall voting for a ZCO LPVO in the poll a few years back. The only time in my life that my vote has ever actually mattered!
Only official details at the moment is that it's a 2-10 LPVO and still a work in progress for final model.
If it’s a 5x erector 2-10 with 36mm tube and hopefully 30mm objective that will have potential. Photo shows a parallax knob too which is sweet.
Not a 1x but throw a red dot on top for your 1x.
Incorrect. This is a 5x erector keeping the same formula as their other scopes.
Hopefully the reticle is better than the trash they put in the hunter scopes. A version of the 2x or 3x would be tits
Odd choice for objective size if it's not 1x on the bottom end, no?
It’s a good LPVO reticle. The hunter scopes are a design for EU and that market specifically. Agreed I don’t like that one either, but apparently they do over there.
I got hands on but will respect their wishes and not spill the beans. Let’s just say it’s……
Unfortunately there is nothing to discuss at this time. Stay tuned!
-Richard
-Richard
A 2-10 LPVO MPVO?
Have ZCO just out-Leupolded Leupold?
No, that is made for Europe.
Nope
Hopefully you can give us an ETA...
No ETA on a product in development.
I’d be watching Hide TV at some point as the Lives were well received, we’ll be using the Hide TV feature more and more in the near future
A few things to learn and settle on, but man it’s gonna be fun
A few things to learn and settle on, but man it’s gonna be fun
With what?
Just went to Hide TV link in the header and don't see anything on SHOT Show?
Nothing Shot it wasn’t quite ready on my end, but moving forward, you might get a few first looks at stuff not on display
The best stuff this show was under the counters or in the rooms, not on the floor
The best stuff this show was under the counters or in the rooms, not on the floor
Gotta love the SHOT within SHOT (reminds me of the year I heard of it existing was of all the secret/not-so-secret S&B drama). Always thought that attending SHOT is money down a rat hole with little to show but swag and the flu/"crud" unless you got this kinda connect.
Rando influcencer SHOT attendee: "We're here at SHOT getting an 'exclusive' look"
Deeply rooted industry types:
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It's like the Seekins' Slam, to me the best cross over, hunting rifle I saw, especially since it wasn't a lever action
I was handling the Slam last year... behind the booth.
The Show within in the show is better, Under the Counter at ZCo, upstairs, behind the curtain, etc...
The influencer push at SHOT is bad right now, it's seems to me, to be the loophole for guys to get in as the media access is huge. The cameras are everywhere, but yes, the cool guy stuff is rarely out in public. I saw one crazy husband and wife influencer team and the wife would hold CUE Cards for both her husband and the interviewee the cards were nuts
For me the coolest thing I saw on the show floor, and again it wasn't finished, just a prototype was the Scout Air Rifle, they are approaching 700 yard range and the accuracy and adaptability is crazy cool
I was handling the Slam last year... behind the booth.
The Show within in the show is better, Under the Counter at ZCo, upstairs, behind the curtain, etc...
The influencer push at SHOT is bad right now, it's seems to me, to be the loophole for guys to get in as the media access is huge. The cameras are everywhere, but yes, the cool guy stuff is rarely out in public. I saw one crazy husband and wife influencer team and the wife would hold CUE Cards for both her husband and the interviewee the cards were nuts
For me the coolest thing I saw on the show floor, and again it wasn't finished, just a prototype was the Scout Air Rifle, they are approaching 700 yard range and the accuracy and adaptability is crazy cool
And none of the influencers are talking about the Seekins Slam, its all about the new crap from PSA, Bergara, Taurus, and so forth.
The slam is the coolest thing I’ve seen released and the only thing that I feel I have to have.
The slam is the coolest thing I’ve seen released and the only thing that I feel I have to have.
Disgusting. The swag collectors and gawkers have evolved/made way for "influencers".
The rich irony is that when one goes to search for: "(company) SHOT 2024" the over-saturation and algorithm wizards have made it so that despite the number of talking heads, I submit:
"2024 has been the most poorly/disjointedly covered SHOT Show in the past 15 years".
I'm having trouble finding a lot of coverage/info from niche companies that would have been covered in the past.
I'm ready for us to move onto our next atrocity...
Honestly, shot moved on from Precision Rifle other than to say, we have it...Today the idea of a new precision rifle is adding an MDT Chassis to it. Dont' know what to do, call MDT...
It's back to Handgun and Carbine, they had the big giant demos, you could not walk past Geisselle, packed with guys trying to feel that Larue effect. Now LaRue is a sad booth in the corner with nothing to show, just a tent to hide the shame.
Electro Optics are the next biggest thing, Thermal, weapons mounted under $5k, huge market right now
Then Lever guns and Influencer candy crush, stuff that looks super cool but is really just a Henry in an MDT Chassis LOL
It's back to Handgun and Carbine, they had the big giant demos, you could not walk past Geisselle, packed with guys trying to feel that Larue effect. Now LaRue is a sad booth in the corner with nothing to show, just a tent to hide the shame.
Electro Optics are the next biggest thing, Thermal, weapons mounted under $5k, huge market right now
Then Lever guns and Influencer candy crush, stuff that looks super cool but is really just a Henry in an MDT Chassis LOL
"PSA is really coming out swinging"
Can't wait till these Johnny-come-lately's fine out about SHOT vaporware
For me personally, it was about strengthening relationships and forming new ones which I think I accomplished for my first time at Shot.
I had one solid day to meet with our vendors and thanks to @Covertnoob5 and @koshkin for helpin a lost ass newb!
-Richard
I had one solid day to meet with our vendors and thanks to @Covertnoob5 and @koshkin for helpin a lost ass newb!
-Richard
"PSA is really coming out swinging"
Can't wait till these Johnny-come-lately's fine out about SHOT vaporware
Yeah all the dildos were all about poormettos hot new steaming piles of dog shit. Whatever they release no matter when they release it and how crappy it is the poors will eat it up. I don’t get it.
I don’t get it.
The mind of the "poors" is one of mental gymnasitcs. "Just as good as..." is their mating call.
For when you're too lazy to be cool enough to be issued an HK MP7...(or don't have the pull to get one LAV style)
For when you're too fucking cheap to go with a Tommy Built melty boy or clone...
For when you're too dumb to realize they really aren't that great...not even considering the cost to keep 'em running/fed...
PSA will have you covered with....well, something that "looks the part" for under $1k.
"It's just as good"
700 yards for an air rifle?
I remember when 70 yards was pushing it for an air rifle...Now this has me interested. I believe that, for most LPVO/MPVO concepts as we've gotten into the 10x range, the reticle and adjustable parallax shortcomings are where there are opportunities for the most improvement in this market. I'm definitely interested in what ZCO has come up with...
I have limited experience with a lot of PSA product line, but I have AK-E and AK-74 from them and I have to admit, they are pretty decent. I have built several ARs out of their kits for new AR owners and they are a very good way to get into the AR world for not a lot of money. The only other PSA product I have is a KS-47. It could use some dehorning of the edges, but from a functionality standpoint, no issues.
No experience with their other stuff.
ILya
That's all well and good...it serves a purpose. As with most things in this industry, its the fanboys and white knights that champion products and speak in generalities that are annoying. The specs may be adequate or perhaps even over-built for certain segments of the population or ideal for someone wanting a spare/trainer and not break the bank.
Getting into the weeds is another matter. One thing I have learned the hard way in 20 years of mucking with ARs from the days of "must be Colt" to todays boutique shit is that every build has its little surprises and like a woman, and you don't really know what you're going to get to you really take time and get your hands on it...even if you're messing with the supposed "tight tolerance" stuff like Hodge or the proprietary KACs and HKs.
Cheers
Bringing this sorta back on track,
I have to remind myself that even "seeing" the prototype don't mean shit... but I have a touch more faith in ZCO than in S&B or these cats:
www.thefirearmblog.com
I have to remind myself that even "seeing" the prototype don't mean shit... but I have a touch more faith in ZCO than in S&B or these cats:
Hensoldt Presents NEW ZF 1-8x24 Telescopic Sight -
HENSOLDT presents new ZF 1-8x24 telescopic sight with a magnification of up to eight times. The ZF 1-8x24 offers an integrated red dot and a reticle that can each be separately illuminated.
www.thefirearmblog.com Heard mention of this elusive optic recently. Not going to put the source but it was just an off the cuff mention.
2x bottom end…
20x top end
2x bottom end…
20x top end
Heard mention of this elusive optic recently. Not going to put the source but it was just an off the cuff mention.
2x bottom end…
20x top end
Since I physically handled and played with it, this is incorrect... - Richard
The numbers didn’t jive with the follow up that it appeared to be a direct competitor to the mk5 2-10.
2-20 would fuck the market up…
