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PRS Talk New MK TMB Muzzle brake

jthor

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Looks like the MK TMB has had a completely new design. Someone else pointed out this was on the website yesterday.

Seems the brake is manufactured very similarly to a suppressor where each baffle/port is machine separately and welded together.
The tuner also seems to be made of brass.
 

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I'm keen to get one of these ultra brakes, having shot the TMB since the prototype phase, he is a good dude who works tirelessly on his products.

He was running a gen 1 concept demonstrator a couple of years ago and that thing was next level... This is obviously the refined retail version of that so I have absolutely no problems trusting any data or claims and want to support a mate.
 
I'm keen to get one of these ultra brakes, having shot the TMB since the prototype phase, he is a good dude who works tirelessly on his products.

He was running a gen 1 concept demonstrator a couple of years ago and that thing was next level... This is obviously the refined retail version of that so I have absolutely no problems trusting any data or claims and want to support a mate.
This concept someone else posted about?
 

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This concept someone else posted about?
Yes, that was one of the early generation concept demonstrators for a new style of brake.
From memory that one did not have a tuner, it had large welded ports and was fitted to his match rifle.
I shot it, it's awesome.

Things have clearly progressed beyond that model. I am looking forward to getting one when they're available and run it on the 6GT.
 
From his socials
 

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From his socials
I tried to get some items machined through a few different shops.

It's amazing how much of people's own time they are willing to waste, not to mention other people's time and money....
 
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I’ll be impressed if it actually shows up. Still have my money in the ether for the original MK one.
 
I think it will show up. Parts have been in production for over a few weeks now
 
Doesn't bring pre-paid tmb mk version 2.6792 to market due to logistics, brings out version 3.7524 at 25% higher price. Hell of a business motto.......
 
I have tried to reach out to BJ to find out when pre-orders would occur. So far got nothing but crickets from him. The design looks pretty sound.
 
I have tried to reach out to BJ to find out when pre-orders would occur. So far got nothing but crickets from him. The design looks pretty sound.
He won't be doing pre-orders currently and new orders won't happen until those who ordered the MK TMB last year have their orders fulfilled
 
That's crazy.

You can get a Diligent Defense suppressor at that price :ROFLMAO:

I don't think this business plan is going to work out well...
People will still buy them.... The whole game is a money pit!
Just ANOTHER drop in the bucket....
 
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I have tried to reach out to BJ to find out when pre-orders would occur. So far got nothing but crickets from him. The design looks pretty sound.
What isn't a good business plan is not spending the time to reply to customers..... or worse, not having the respect to be bothered to reply.

Now there could be of course another reason..... but a customer will generally assume the worst, and it is a fair enough assuption to default to.
 
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I shot the last two matches with the Gen 2.5 TMB and I think I'm going back to ACE brakes. Developing a flinch and wicked headaches after each of the matches just isnt worth the extra recoil reduction.

Probably put my TMB up for sale and my MK Chad up if/when I get it.
 
I shot the last two matches with the Gen 2.5 TMB and I think I'm going back to ACE brakes. Developing a flinch and wicked headaches after each of the matches just isnt worth the extra recoil reduction.

Probably put my TMB up for sale and my MK Chad up if/when I get it.
This point of view seems to be getting some momentum lately.... Almost everything has diminishing returns, and some have seriously increased negatives also. Be interesting how this all plays out.
Ultimately someone has to choose if that fractional gain is worth the negative, especially if you (like most of us) are nowhere near the podium?
 
This point of view seems to be getting some momentum lately.... Almost everything has diminishing returns, and some have seriously increased negatives also. Be interesting how this all plays out.
Ultimately someone has to choose if that fractional gain is worth the negative, especially if you (like most of us) are nowhere near the podium?

I'm usually close to or on the podium at local matches. I've been in the top 25 at a couple of pro matches.

I hope WIthout Warning is successful in the end. The more successful businesses in the firearms industry the better off the 2A movement will be, in the long run. We need more success stories.
 
I'm usually close to or on the podium at local matches. I've been in the top 25 at a couple of pro matches.

I hope WIthout Warning is successful in the end. The more successful businesses in the firearms industry the better off the 2A movement will be, in the long run. We need more success stories.
Fair enough, but the podium guys are not the majority or the ones who keep the industry profortable (certainly can sway purchasing decisions). Your views of the negatives associated with the super effective brakes are becoming more prevalent.
Time will tell if the majority are willing to except the trade-offs, I'm not..... Best of luck to those that do, effects me not at all.
Best of luck to TMB, I have no doubt an immense amount of time, thought and effort has been put into this product.
 
He said the final parts would be done on 22 April not that the brakes would be done. However, he did just post that not all the parts were complete; this was in regards to the main body parts for the brake. Tuner weights and Jam nuts are done. Hopefully enough parts were complete to fulfill last years pre-orders. I'm going to give it until the Raton, NM match. If I don't have the brake for that match then I'm selling my TMBs and moving to an ACE brake. I can't keep representing a company that continues to not meet deadlines and promote it. We're currently almost at 10 weeks when we were given 7 weeks.
 

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I saw. You have more patience than I do. I've already sold my Gen 2.5 TMB and if I don't get a refund on the Chad I'll be selling that as well. Too many deadlines have been missed.
 
I don't believe he is trying to do anyone dirty, but yeah it has been past the point of ridiculous for a while now. I'm going to be very hesitant buying from a company that doesn't have their own means of production again.
 
I dont think hes trying to do anyone dirty.
But I've hit the point where I'm past accepting excuses. I wish him and his business the best but won't have his products on my rifles.
 
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Just asked him about it yesterday and it won’t meet the 17 Feb timeline based on what he told me. He’s changed the design and is waiting on patent(s) due to the new design. I’m gonna be pessimistic on this and give it April-May time frame. With the brakes currently not being produced and now waiting on patent(s), it’s probably a fair guess.
@Mormegil87 I kinda also want to see if my prediction for April-May time frame at the beginning of Feb is correct. lol
 
I shot the last two matches with the Gen 2.5 TMB and I think I'm going back to ACE brakes. Developing a flinch and wicked headaches after each of the matches just isnt worth the extra recoil reduction.

Probably put my TMB up for sale and my MK Chad up if/when I get it.
Check out the ATS. Much more recoil reduction than the ACE, actually has less concussion too. I sold my ACEs and latest testing proves it. Sold my APA fat bastards, A419 brakes, ACE, ect to consolidate on the ATS. Its the perfect brake IMO.

on sale right now at anarchy: