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Like I said, my T1x groups .5 inch at 100. I have 2 others sub moa as well. Total of 3 that are sub moa. 1/2 inch is less than an inch.
Sub moa doesn’t mean 1/2 inch. Period. I’m very well aware that 1/2 is less than one.
Wow. YES. 1/2 inch is sub moa at 100 yards. Really, dude? MOA is 1.047 inches.
.5 < 1.047. 2 OTHER rifles will ALSO shoot sub moa. They typically group .6 to .85 inches. ALL 3 are sub moa. (Less than 1.047 inches)
SK Standard plus for the Tikka. Eley club is the best for the other 2.
In the Tikka, Eley club groups .8-.9 inch. Get it now?
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I think you’re confusing two groups with two types of ammo he mentions. SK is .5 and Eley is under an inch yet
So, that was what is confusing him? Thanks.
I know what sub moa means, DUDE!!! 15/16” is sub moa but that’s not 1/2” at 100. Basically what others have said you must be one of the top 22 shooters in the world.
You have my permission to not reply to my posts. Your lack reading comprehension is too much of a challenge to keep up.I know what sub moa means, DUDE!!! 15/16” is sub moa but that’s not 1/2” at 100. Basically what others have said you must be one of the top 22 shooters in the world.
I don’t need your permission. You are from Alabama so I’m sure it is hard for you to keep up.
LOL. You keep missing this. It's obvious to everyone else that don't comprehend different ammo groups in different rifles.I don’t need your permission. You are from Alabama so I’m sure it is hard for you to keep up.
You are excused.
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I think you’re confusing two groups with two types of ammo he mentions. SK is .5 and Eley is under an inch yet
What's your setup on the T1x? All factory? 16 or 20"?
Factory 20" with Stock-Tek adjustable cheek riser. Arken SH4 6x24, 25 MOA rail. Over the years I've only had a few factory .22s that are this accurate. I go through 15 different types of ammo to find what each prefers. Sure the Voodoo and custom CZ built for NRL are pretty close, but the T1x is light enough for a decent bench shooter and practical hunter. Most of the other Tikkas around here are sub moa or very close as well. I got lucky with this one.
If I can get at least 3 consecutive 5 shot groups that are consistent, I call it for that rifle.
As you probably know, past 50 yards, it doesn't take much wind to have a negative impact. I haven't stretched this one out past 100 yet, but the other 2 tight shooters are consistent to 300 yards.
I did convert to the vertical pistol grip, too.
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I think I've finally resolved my ejection issues. The T1x has a shared heritage and small part design with the Sako Quad, it also has extraction and ejection issues.
The issue seems to be the extractor being pushed off the rim when chambered. Some have had the relief cuts in the barrel enlarged, most opt for the easier method of removing some material off the nose of the extractor.
Many UK threads on this going back over a decade.
https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/sako-quad-extractor-claw-modification.40822/
(Same thread also mentions same issue and fix on CZ's)
My only failure at a match this weekend was one failure to extract which was most likely rain drop induced.
The issue seems to be the extractor being pushed off the rim when chambered. Some have had the relief cuts in the barrel enlarged, most opt for the easier method of removing some material off the nose of the extractor.
Many UK threads on this going back over a decade.
https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/sako-quad-extractor-claw-modification.40822/
(Same thread also mentions same issue and fix on CZ's)
My only failure at a match this weekend was one failure to extract which was most likely rain drop induced.
You guys and your half MOA nonsense. I just shot 30 rounds (ETA @100 yards) of Eley Target today at the range, from a bench, good conditions. This was my group. I was very pleased to have found .22 ammo that cost less than $10 a box that was capable of shooting at around 2 inches with no wind. 
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Half MOA is a bit too much, would rather have quarter MOA groups if possible...
It's all about target size, is it not? If 2 MOA is good enough for you, then why would you bother chasing tighter groups.
It's no fun competing if the rifle/ammo combo isn't on par.
I'm with ya epeet. I mostly stay away from the online forums because of all the dishonest clown show. Guys breaking WORLD records online regularly with 10/22 and $3 a box ammo AND if you play the BS card they get all high and mighty about it. Quarter MOA average with a .22 give me a break.
My Anschütz had consistent <17 mm groups with tried ammo (R-50). Olympic level is <14 mm (@50 m).
Never said I shoot ¼ MOA groups, just that what I'm hoping for. The KYL 5th target is ¼".
The clowns are those that won't spend the time (and money) trying out ammo for their rifle and then cry about it not being possible or too expensive...
OK CD. .5 moa = 6.65 mm @ 50 yds. <17 mm ?? I would enjoy shooting with people that have optimized equipment and ammo just to see how my budget equipment/ammo would compare.
Find a NRL22 or PRS22 match near you and go try it out.
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Yep. Sorry. My bad. Almost never use MOA other than group sizes at 100 m...
I assumed that @epeet Was shooting his group at 50 m. Since that's my normal 22lr target distance...
And I've also been consuming to many YT vids where they measure group sizes in inches...
Sometimes I think too fast, hence my nick. Heckle away...
#1. Peep sight and sling. No scope or bipod (or bag). Prone. Distance 50 m. A "10" is 10.4 mm in diameter. 40 consecutive shots.
#2. A local 22lr PRS or NRL match shouldn't be too hard to find?
I also tried FGMM (30 rds @ 100 yards), which grouped slightly better overall, same price locally ($8/50), but had a higher overall ES. Still a better option than CCI SV most of the time, depending on your use case. For comparison CCI SV was ~4 inches, but there was a bit of wind. Still, group was WAY wider. Not a surprise. I shoot thousands of rounds of CCI SV through my Tikka each year and it generally feels like a 3.5 inch / 100 yard load. Now mind you, I don't believe in fliers or ever cherry pick groups and I prefer to think about accuracy in terms what a gun will do with a box of ammo. That lets me have reasonable expectations and know when its me and not the ammo.
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Whose fault is it that some guys can't shoot?Yeah him and the guy above from North Dakota are brothers
If you want to learn to shoot better, that isn't the way to go about it.
Yes, we can see you.
Gotta love it when someone just shows up and makes outlandish claims like you lol. Oh but you have 50 years of shooting experience so we must trust you that your $500 gun and $7 box of ammo out shoots the worlds best benchrest shooters/guns…….
Not very bright of you to ignore the fact that I shoot 15 types of ammo, but you now have my permission to ignore anything I post.
A real shooter would know that it's important to find the best ammo match for the gun, not just guess that the most expensive ammo must be the best for every gun. LOL.
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I guess you don’t remember you posted this? Lmao. A real shooter…. Pffft hahaha. Once again I guess you’re so much better than everyone including top level PRS and benchrest shooters. If only we could be so good….
LOL. Reading is good. Try it.
Factory 20" with Stock-Tek adjustable cheek riser. Arken SH4 6x24, 25 MOA rail. Over the years I've only had a few factory .22s that are this accurate. I go through 15 different types of ammo to find what each prefers. Sure the Voodoo and custom CZ built for NRL are pretty close, but the T1x is light enough for a decent bench shooter and practical hunter. Most of the other Tikkas around here are sub moa or very close as well. I got lucky with this one.
If I can get at least 3 consecutive 5 shot groups that are consistent, I call it for that rifle.
As you probably know, past 50 yards, it doesn't take much wind to have a negative impact. I haven't stretched this one out past 100 yet, but the other 2 tight shooters are consistent to 300 yards.
I did convert to the vertical pistol grip, too.
You need to read this, again:
A real shooter would know that it's important to find the best ammo match for the gun, not just guess that the most expensive ammo must be the best for every gun.
ROFLMBO
I guess you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Idc about your 15 types of ammo. I’m calling your BS on the post which I previously quoted. You’re $500 gun shooting .5moa at 100…… that’s laughable. Maybe you got a couple groups at .5 moa groups but that’s called random luck.
I'll spell it out for, since you don't seem to get it at all. I don't value your opinion, at all.I guess you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Idc about your 15 types of ammo. I’m calling your BS on the post which I previously quoted. You’re $500 gun shooting .5moa at 100…… that’s laughable. Maybe you got a couple groups at .5 moa groups but that’s called random luck.
Ok well you let us know when you start winning all the BR and F-Class matches with your tikka/sk standard .5moa combo. rotfl. And then maybe people on the hide will value your opinion…..
Is this the Tikka T1X discussion? Some guy/ combos are better than others. Lets move on. I have a t1x with an epoxy reinforced stock(3-4lb). I am mounting a vector 10-40 sentinal to see how the combo works. This scope was very good on a savage mk11 btv.
I get it now. Someone asked you, "How stupid can you be?". You thought it was a challenge.
That’s pretty typical. There’s a thread about shooting the whole box into a group which I’m sure you’ve seen. The .5moa is just a load of BS. Easy to get some 5 shot groups in that range but but not consistently, and that’s with top tier ammo. The dude claiming that is compensating for some daddy issues or just doesn’t know how to measure…
Yeah, 'cause all real shooters know that 100 yds/m is too far to judge 22lr accuracy due to wind and ammo inconsistency.
Could somebody please send a memo when the girls have stopped their mud fight?
A good friend of mine bought a T1X to shoot a bunch of our local matches ( silhouette nrl and a sort of outlaw prs.) he has been delighted with it. In just his 3rd silhouette match ever shot a perfect 40/40. If I wasn’t deeply invested into my Kidd 10/22 and was looking for a bolt gun, I would strongly consider one
I'll send him a box of tissues.
You have correctly stated the design parameters of the action. I own two. They fit nicely into T3 stocks but the bolt throw and everything else, including the magazines, are sized to the 22lr/22WMR/17HMR family of cartridges. One think I do not like about the Vudoo, RimX, and Bergara, are the 2.800 size magazines. Also do not like the 90-degree bolt lift.
In the process of swapping the barrel for a LW 17HMR barrel. Thought a little photo essay might be nice. I haven't pressed out the OEM barrel or pressed in the LW barrel yet. Need to visit my brother's hydraulic press tonight for that. The barrel retention screws came out without any issues, but I didn't cut any corners and did things correctly. Heated the screws to break the thread locker bond. Used a shortened GOOD QUALITY Makita T15 Torx bit and a DeWalt impact driver to break the screws loose. Just bump them with the driver a few quick times while putting massive downward pressure on the driver to keep the bit in the screw. Shouldn't be a big deal if done correctly. The barrels are installed with some kind of locking compound so use some heat on the action around the barrel tenon before PRESSING (DO NOT POUND) the barrel out. You don't need a lot of heat. I used a butane barbeque grill lighter on the screws and I intend to use the same on the action. I ran the torch directly over the three screw heads for a total of about one minute. That was sufficient.
