Very possible imo, carbon barrel or lighter contour, NX8 or vx6, I’d go NF ultralight rings and you should be right there
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Very possible imo, carbon barrel or lighter contour, NX8 or vx6, I’d go NF ultralight rings and you should be right there
Who is Frank? That seems odd since just about every ELR rig I see has a BipodeXT extender on it. It's hooking to the chassis the same way an ARCA rail would but extending way further. I think the ARCA rail to chassis would be more rigid than the Bipode.
Also to add to that, I run skis on my Accutac bipod and an adjustable bag rider with a rear bag that allows the MRAD to free recoil straight back. I've found shots to be extremely consistent that way. Chase Stroud taught me this at the one on one training I did with him... unload the bipod completely and just apply light pressure against your shoulder. If you've seen Chase, his biceps are as big as my thighs, so I'm like... whatever, that might be easy for you to do. But it really wasn't that uncomfortable, even with 33XC, and the proof is in the pudding when I got two hits at two miles.
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Frank is the proprietor of this website.
We’re talking about taking a fairly thin flat plate of 6061 aluminum, extending it off the front of the rifle, and then proceeding to load the bipod at the furthest point it can, right? Little different than that bipodext thing, but I’m not an expert just play one on tv.
We’re talking about taking a fairly thin flat plate of 6061 aluminum, extending it off the front of the rifle, and then proceeding to load the bipod at the furthest point it can, right? Little different than that bipodext thing, but I’m not an expert just play one on tv.
Oh that Frank.
For the MRAD, the factory barrels don't extend more than 10-inches or so in front of the "handguard". Just thinking of pushing the 12-inch ARCA rail forward about 6". Don't know that it would make that much difference pushing the bipod forward that little bit, but it seems it would still be about as rigid as the handguard it would normally be attached to.
Any idea on MSRP?
Whatever’s on the Proof website. Drop shippers have it for as low as ~$1300.
How do you like the sled feet on the ACCU? They only seem to bear on two points due to the angle that they use.
I agree fully with your instructor. Pull bipod back. Proper shoulder weld, breathing, trigger control, not wrapping fingers around the grip, and follow thru. For years, I was doing it wrong. Those 6 points and the discipline to use them, result in better groups for long range for me.
I think the sled feet work great. They do rotate so they stay flat.
My 26" 300WM and 26" 300NM are showing 0.9" OD at the shoulder. Threads should be 5/8-24.
ETA - Still need to snap some better pics but I finished shooting session #2 with the A419 Mk22 Arcalok rail. I'm a fan overall but the Arcalok adapter has been reassigned to Garmin Xero duty. Went to the ADM adapter and I'm much happier with it. @Swatdude1 I was just working through the skis thing myself! My Atlas CAL soft, super sticky rubber feet are already noticeably worn after only 122 rounds. My range doesn't have anything to really load the bipod into so recoil control really comes down to me. Just moving the rifle around the table has it jumping and bouncing on the soft sticky rubber feet... Skis rolled in earlier this week and I finally installed them today. I'll be curious if allowing the rifle slide smoothly back has any noticeable effect, besides more felt recoil.
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Noticeable affect is better accuracy due to consistent rearward motion. It is easier to duplicate a light touch to the shoulder than pulling the gun in hard with your bicep. You will never be able to duplicate the amount of force you apply each time with a strong pull. Also, front loading a bipod with one that has ANY give at all will also introduce effects that keep the barrel from recoiling directly back in a straight line. Think about it... with the bipod legs pushed back hard, the height of the barrel is reduced. When fired, as the rife moves rearward, the barrel will actually increase in height as the bipod legs hit their full height through recoil. There is also the benefit of getting your sight picture back quickly to witness impacts.
The proof was in the pudding when this extreme newb to even bolt guns in general hit two consecutive shots at 2 miles in 13-20mph winds. And at that time I was using a crappy bipod without skis (not loading it though). Note: the weight of your rifle will have a big effect on how free recoiling feels to you. My MRAD all decked out with ATACR and AccuTac bipod weighs 27 lbs with the 33XC barrel and after shooting almost a hundred 33XC rounds that day with Chase, I had minimal shoulder discomfort.
Mike, get those bipods pushed out to the front of your ARCA rail.
Got to agree with Swat on the bipod location. It was one of the big mistakes I was making in lr shooting. I was always of the opinion that force on a bipod had to be forward directed and that you hold the rifle grip tightly. It kinda screws up the center of gravity with regards to recoil.
My groups didn't straighten out until I went with a adjustable bag rider, a straight rifle grip, and a good bag. Getting the trigger finger at 90 degrees, along with trigger control/follow thru was also very helpful.
I'm no where's near an expert, just someone who saw a dramatic improvement in performance. Long Shot Precision products might be a good place to look at.
Also, you mention the sticky rubber feet. Those will screw up the shot. I ended up putting furniture glides under the feet and there was a noticeable improvement. You'll like the sled feet.
My groups didn't straighten out until I went with a adjustable bag rider, a straight rifle grip, and a good bag. Getting the trigger finger at 90 degrees, along with trigger control/follow thru was also very helpful.
I'm no where's near an expert, just someone who saw a dramatic improvement in performance. Long Shot Precision products might be a good place to look at.
Also, you mention the sticky rubber feet. Those will screw up the shot. I ended up putting furniture glides under the feet and there was a noticeable improvement. You'll like the sled feet.
Also this is standard 5/8 thread. Not 3/4. Bought it this year. Going to direct thread for now. Looking at the J mac custom hub adapters. Gives you the same points of failure as a direct thread along with a sacrificial baffle and a brake when unsuppressed. you can permanently attach it with Rock set. One issue I see if you’re moving the suppressor is that you’re using the threads on the can itself which is the serialized part. It would be hard to cross thread it, but it’s a consideration.
I should add I'm no expert either. I talked my wife into spending big $$ to train with Chase, and I feel blessed to have been able to get so much knowledge so quickly, as well as avoid costly mistakes. I still have much to learn.
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You, as well as I, are blessed to have wives that understand. I'm really lucky to have a wife that is a shooter also. She, in many ways is a better shooter than I and goes along with the $$ of this craft.
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So who's the good lookin' guy on four paws? My two won't sit still for a shoot, they just love to play in the woods.Thanks
There would be absolutely no need for that. I’m sure LMT‘s patents only extend to AR style uppers as there’s plenty of prior art for the retention system.
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Yes, I have it. One thing I'm not too thrilled about with the guide is the metal tube construction w/ O rings. I'd rather it be a composite like delrin. It is nice that the butt end of the guide fits the chassis well. Just kinda bothers me with the metal to metal contact in the chamber. One other thing they should have added is a side port for adding cleaners.
If you can find a similar guide made of delrin or similar (would have to be long and that's the rub), let me know.
I ordered a custom rod guide from PMA Tool, though you'll need one per parent case size.
Is there a big difference between the 17" and 24" 308 at 300-500 yards?
at 500m there is a .5 mil difference
Is anyone experiencing POI shift on the MRADs through use?
I've the Mk22 ASR setup with Badger C1 rings the Mark 5 scope.
I zeroed, then attended a tactical match on the weekend and found my POI had shifted .3 high and .2 left.
As part of the competition, we aren't allowed to leave the bolts in the gun, so between serials i had to open the receiver, remove the bolt, move to the new position, open the receiver, insert the bolt again. Could this be causing POI shift?
It seemed to be pretty consistent and my spotter was calling it so I still managed to get back on target but i went and confirmed today and sure enough, impacts were high left.
Is there anything specific that might be causing this?
The gun is babied so hasn't copped any knocks and isnt' carried/lifted by the optic.
Cheers
Carso
I've the Mk22 ASR setup with Badger C1 rings the Mark 5 scope.
I zeroed, then attended a tactical match on the weekend and found my POI had shifted .3 high and .2 left.
As part of the competition, we aren't allowed to leave the bolts in the gun, so between serials i had to open the receiver, remove the bolt, move to the new position, open the receiver, insert the bolt again. Could this be causing POI shift?
It seemed to be pretty consistent and my spotter was calling it so I still managed to get back on target but i went and confirmed today and sure enough, impacts were high left.
Is there anything specific that might be causing this?
The gun is babied so hasn't copped any knocks and isnt' carried/lifted by the optic.
Cheers
Carso
Have you tried a different scope, with just some rings? Opening the receiver should in no way impact POI as it's the whole upper. What is your barrel torqued to?
Barrel is torqued to 140"lbs using the Barret Torque kit. Same with all rings and mounts etc.
I'm more worried about the shock of closing the receiver on the optic, rather than just the act of opening the receiver.
I've heard some complaints in other areas about the MRADs having POI shift but this seems to be a solid zero shift as opposed to varying POI in different positions.
Temp or elevation change? Are you running a Kestrel?
I'm just going to blame the leupold at this point.
The Mark5s are no good?I'm just going to blame the leupold at this point.
nah it's not temp. It's a solid zero shift. Was pretty strange. Confirmed at 100m after the match.
There have been some statistically insignificant internet grumblings. I would mount it to a vise and hook up a target cam and run a it through the elevation and windage dials and see if it jumps.
For this mk5 7-35 the elevation error is so minimal but I'd be curious how high your dialing and how much back and forth you're turning knobs in a match.
Nothing crazy mate. Just what I'd consider normal range use. Certainly no back and forth during serials
Just got it mounted and with 10 different profiles I should be set for my 5 calibers. B&T Leveraged Rail BT43 and the Spuhr A-0032
Have you swapped scopes and had it out and attempted to recreate the shift?
Thank you! This is a four year old post but it solved my dilemma. I'm ordering from barrett the MK22 case and foam for my MRAD and barrels and it does not come with the soft case. I couldn't find it for sale on barrett store. Searched snipers hide and DONE. back ordered but found it. Now $449.95 . I will confirm with barrett tomorrow if the case they offer is in fact the one that will accept the soft case.
RETAIL PRICE: $1,200.00
SKU: 32422
"This is the Pelican case for the MRAD MK22 rifle system. It holds the rifle with scope, suppressor, cleaning accessories, 2 additional barrel kits, and 15 magazines." Anyone know ?
What are people using for slings? As in actually in the field carrying this beast for hours.
Would like to know as well
I would also add - what mount options might be the best - Clearly we have some points on the gun and i assume QD is the way to go, but curious what is actually being used in the real world, unlike my unreal world where hauling a 20lb gun is not actually something you need to train to do before doing it. This might be my new work out plan.
The way this world is going, regularly hiking with 3-day pack and rifle should be part of all our workout plans.
Only sling I find tolerable is a biathlon sling. I'm pretty sure mile high has them. It rides like a back pack so if you packing gear it kind of gets in the way of that. I hunt light as I never leave my property so it's great for that. I hunt primarily with a scar 20s and occasionally a TRG 42 so it's very convenient for a heavy rifle. The mrad is so heavy though I think I might hire a sherpa or a pack donkey to carry it. Lol
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