yes they will be armed

I want them to have guns also. It's fundamental right to own a weapon for self protection just as much as self protection is fundamental right. I don't think felons should be disqualified either. It's a right. If they are dangerous with a gun. They are dangerous without one. Put them back in or hang them.

She's a left wing judge and wants to make sure the Illegal Aliens are armed against any attempts to arrest and deport them.

supercorndogs said:

I want them to have guns also. It's fundamental right to own a weapon for self protection just as much as self protection is fundamental right. I don't think felons should be disqualified either. It's a right. If they are dangerous with a gun. They are dangerous without one. Put them back in or hang them.

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And the rest of us will defend ourselves with our guns. As it was meant to be.

This is in the window of the office of the company I work at. In fact, my office is the first space you walk into.

Ronws said:

And the rest of us will defend ourselves with our guns. As it was meant to be.

This is in the window of the office of the company I work at. In fact, my office is the first space you walk into.

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So, you're the receptionist?

This Obamerrhoid judge expects conservatives to object to the ruling. In fact, she not only wants them to do so, she's counting on it. She wants to bait 2A attorneys to argue in favor of exceptions. Nobody should take that bait.

The right doesn't derive from the Constitution. It preexists the Constitution and derives from a personal right to live and defend one's life. The right to life is meaningless without the right to defend life. By the same reasoning, the right to self defense is meaningless without the right to an effective means of self defense.

Remember, that is the litmus test of Christian Nationalism.

They also have the right to not be subject to cruel and unusual punishment on their bus ride back to the border for their permanent expulsion so we'll throw in a free bologna sandwich so they don't get hungry on the ride.

Anyone who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian, in this case, a CBP custodian.

whats good for the goose is good for the gander

Sooo…. I would have thought it was a felony to invade a the sovereign nation of the United States of America? Try that shit with any other country on any continent.

So, instead of arresting and deporting people who are illegally ( breaking the law) they get to carry firearms while here illegally. Do I have that correct? WTF!? The founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves on that one. Too many people running this country have lost their fkng minds.

supercorndogs said:

I want them to have guns also. It's fundamental right to own a weapon for self protection just as much as self protection is fundamental right. I don't think felons should be disqualified either. It's a right. If they are dangerous with a gun. They are dangerous without one. Put them back in or hang them.

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Too bad illinois is trying to take guns away from law abiding citizens while allowing this.

supercorndogs said:

I want them to have guns also. It's fundamental right to own a weapon for self protection just as much as self protection is fundamental right. I don't think felons should be disqualified either. It's a right. If they are dangerous with a gun. They are dangerous without one. Put them back in or hang them.

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Illegal immigrants? You want those who said fuck your border, fuck your laws, you want them to be armed on our soil? What?

Naw man. GTFO, IF we let you in legally and you become reborn as an American citizen, knock yourself out.

The slime people who overthrew the government and who are now running this coup hate you and want you dead. You are their enemy.

Milf Dots said:

She's a left wing judge and wants to make sure the Illegal Aliens are armed against any attempts to arrest and deport them.

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Wait, they armed the illegal aliens once they got here?

If you are here legally then I have no issue with you being armed. Illegal immigrants broke the law to get here and shouldn't be armed.

Franko said:

If you are here legally then I have no issue with you being armed. Illegal immigrants broke the law to get here and shouldn't be armed.

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Illegals are enemy combatants and should be dealt with as so.

Kewl.
It's a nice move for some solid sporting marksmanship.
Even better, if they run really fast and have a random dodge built into the direction they run in.
It's not nice for it to be too easy, takes all the fun out of it.

There's nothing in the Constitution that specifies that you have to be a USC or here legally, or any other provision that denies Constitutional protection for anyone in the country.

Illegal entry itself is a misdemeanor. Reentry after a removal is a felony. However, like all crimes.......there's a presumption of innocence until proven guilty/conviction.


Anyone who believes the right of self defense is inherent/God given/unalienable......and should either never be taken away, or only taken away for very serious offenses.......would be pretty hypocritical to be willing to take it away from anyone who hasn't been convicted of a serious crime. Now, if someone is of the opinion that illegal entry should be a more serious crime....then that's another conversation. But it would require a change in the law. Also, if anyone wants to take away the ability of self defense without a conviction.....that's a slippery slope.

On paper, a normal illegal entry is no different than any other misdemeanor anywhere in the country. Which again, that's easily debatable on the merit of that, but it's the law currently.


Not that I agree or disagree with the decision.......just pointing out that it's quite a bit more complicated than most are going to give credit.

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Illegal entry itself is a misdemeanor

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These fuckers are lying claiming asylum.
They are economic welfare rats.
Is lying to enter still a misdemeanor?

Either way, fuck no. They are invaders.

Its interesting that so many seem to feel only they, have the right to own or carry a gun. The mind is a true weapon once you start thinking with it, the gun is but a tool.

Was stopped entering the Fed Res. in Atlanta years ago because my pocket knife blade was 1/2" to long. Big shit storm until they cleared my tools. I then ask them all, how that 2 3/4 inch blade was more dangerous than the 4, 6, & 8 inch screwdrivers they just cleared. They proclaimed the screwdrivers were just tools. Yes they are tools that I could drive thru their chest, throat, eye ect if so inclined.

Most so called security, is pure B/S.

AmmoFort said:

Illegal immigrants? You want those who said fuck your border, fuck your laws, you want them to be armed on our soil? What?

Naw man. GTFO, IF we let you in legally and you become reborn as an American citizen, knock yourself out.

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Well no. I don't think the government should have guns. I think illegals should.

We know there are soldiers and terrorist crossing our border. None have been vetted.

But, it appears, the rule of law has been completely thrown out and guilty depends solely on which party you vote for.

As a very wise woman once said, "What difference at this point does it make?"

The "rule of law" is bullshit.
Everything the nazis did to the Jews they made legal. It's legal to murder a baby here if it hasn't been born too long. It's legal for .gov to take your property if you don't pay property taxes. You already don't own half the things you think you do. You just rent from the government. Who in turn is renting from the bankers.

Anyone who is OK with a literal invasion force of subhumans having weapons "legally" is insane.

There will be open civil conflict with these parasites. They are not here for the "American Dream" or to integrate into white western built society.

The preamble to the Constitution.

We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The keywords are WE the people of the United States.

This does not mean illegals. The laws and protection of the Constitution should not in any way pertain to, nor protect those who are NOT US citizens.

America needs Trump in office with a GOP controlled Congress and then appoint 3 more hard core conservatives to SCOTUS to set this nation back on the road to protecting the RIGHTS of Americans.

Until that point, if you don't strap yourself every time you leave the house, you are a potential victim to every criminal out there.

Federal laws expressly prohibit immigrants in US illegally from purchasing or possessing guns​

The bulk of federal law governing who can legally possess firearms in the U.S. is spelled out in 18 U.S.C. 922, established by the Gun Control Act of 1968 and amended by subsequent legislation. It lists groups of people who are not allowed to possess firearms, and the prohibitions still on the books today include several categories of non-citizens, according to Johnny Michael, an ATF spokesperson.

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18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts:​

(5)who, being an alien—
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is illegally or unlawfully in the United States

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NoDopes said:

These fuckers are lying claiming asylum.
They are economic welfare rats.
Is lying to enter still a misdemeanor?

Either way, fuck no. They are invaders.

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I don't give a flying fuck if it's been lowered to a misdemeanor, so is shoplifting.

Let the shoplifter use or brandish a gun and it automatically becomes an armed robbery, which is a felony. Same should apply to a wetback with a firearm.

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So, you're the receptionist?

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In the shortest mini-skirt that you can imagine.

Any bets on there being a Form 4473 revision announced and implemented soon that omits the whole U.S. Citizen thing?

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You get a gun and you get a gun and you get a gun

Everyone gets a gun. It’ll sort itself out

So do we have feds in here masquerading as Hide members or what?

The only reason this judge ruled the way she did was the illegal in question. Black or brown? A-OK to own firearms. White guy? No effing way! they should be disarmed.

M

I'm good with this, here east of the Missouri river, we don't have prairie dogs to shoot, so...

If it spices things up faster I'm all for it. Time to get the show on the road. I'm sick of the long slow march to tyranny personally. Maybe this will ruffle enough feathers to get people involved. I doubt it though.

They are seeking asylum. They are not illegal. Besides, if you lie on your 4473 it's no big deal. Ask Hunter.

Terry Cross said:

Any bets on there being a Form 4473 revision announced and implemented soon that omits the whole U.S. Citizen thing?

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Along those same lines, the verdict in hunter biden's drug use vs 4473 trial is going to be interesting. I'm betting he gets off Scott free.

Threadcutter308 said:

Along those same lines, the verdict in hunter biden's drug use vs 4473 trial is going to be interesting. I'm betting he gets off Scott free.

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Rules for thee but not for me. It is the way it always has been.

Mcrider55 said:

The preamble to the Constitution.

We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The keywords are WE the people of the United States.

This does not mean illegals. The laws and protection of the Constitution should not in any way pertain to, nor protect those who are NOT US citizens.

America needs Trump in office with a GOP controlled Congress and then appoint 3 more hard core conservatives to SCOTUS to set this nation back on the road to protecting the RIGHTS of Americans.

Until that point, if you don't strap yourself every time you leave the house, you are a potential victim to every criminal out there.

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America already had Trump in office with the Republicans holding the house and senate.

The constitution is restraints for government not laws and protections for people. Rights are self evident. They belong to every person.

"We the people"

They were simply identifying them selves.

They have the "right" to get the fuck out of my nation. Wanting your invaders to have the same "rights" as you is exactly the kind of talk that makes the average "conservative" look like a complete blithering retard that is going to do nothing to stop the destruction of white built western civilization.

We can pontificate about the human made concept of "rights" when we have a secure nation with a secure future. Right now, we do not.

Howland said:

This Obamerrhoid judge expects conservatives to object to the ruling. In fact, she not only wants them to do so, she's counting on it. She wants to bait 2A attorneys to argue in favor of exceptions. Nobody should take that bait.

The right doesn't derive from the Constitution. It preexists the Constitution and derives from a personal right to live and defend one's life. The right to life is meaningless without the right to defend life. By the same reasoning, the right to self defense is meaningless without the right to an effective means of self defense.

Remember, that is the litmus test of Christian Nationalism.

They also have the right to not be subject to cruel and unusual punishment on their bus ride back to the border for their permanent expulsion so we'll throw in a free bologna sandwich so they don't get hungry on the ride.

Anyone who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian, in this case, a CBP custodian.

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They should keep that in their back pocket and bring it out every time an illegal commits a crime with a firearm. "This democrat elected judge ruled it unconstitutional to prevent an illegal alien from posessing a firearm".

I believe you are right though, it does seem like they're baiting 2A attorneys to argue against the ruling.

Branden

Short-bus said:

They should keep that in their back pocket and bring it out every time an illegal commits a crime with a firearm. "This democrat elected judge ruled it unconstitutional to prevent an illegal alien from posessing a firearm".

I believe you are right though, it does seem like they're baiting 2A attorneys to argue against the ruling.

Branden

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Don’t take the bait. When more libtards are killed by gunfire in blue cities by illegals turn one their anti-2A arguments against them.

The gun grabbers are fond of telling us that not everyone should own a gun. When they say that then ask them; “Do you mean like illegal immigrants that you and your party let in our country?”

Charmingmander said:

Anyone who is OK with a literal invasion force of subhumans having weapons "legally" is insane.

There will be open civil conflict with these parasites. They are not here for the "American Dream" or to integrate into white western built society.

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Make no mistake about it,and if anyone thinks otherwise,you have your head in the sand. if TRUMP manages to get the WH ,it's showtime.i shit you not.

supercorndogs said:

America already had Trump in office with the Republicans holding the house and senate.

The constitution is restraints for government not laws and protections for people. Rights are self evident. They belong to every person.

"We the people"

They were simply identifying them selves.

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Trump, along with damn near every Republican voter didn't realize the level of corruption in DC, especially with Republican politicians. The deep state heavily included Repubs in power. McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and their underlings along with democrats and the entrenched bureaucrats. We know SO MUCH more about what's been going on in America since 2016. The relentless attacks on Trump, Covid, the stealing of an election, Soros money and influence, and so much more. Ryan singlehandedly stopped any PRO2A votes as speaker, including Constitutional Carry nationwide.

Yes they were identifying themselves, as a SOVERIGN NATION. Laws have been established which include immigration and it's requirements.

People outside those laws, are illegal, and hence criminals right from the moment they stepped into our borders. The numbers here so far meet every requirement to be considered an INVASION.

Our response to that should be about protecting America and to hell with these invaders. Pushing them all back into Mexico and letting them deal with it all is acceptable to me.

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Trump, along with damn near every Republican voter didn't realize the level of corruption in DC, especially with Republican politicians. The deep state heavily included Repubs in power. McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and their underlings along with democrats and the entrenched bureaucrats. We know SO MUCH more about what's been going on in America since 2016. The relentless attacks on Trump, Covid, the stealing of an election, Soros money and influence, and so much more. Ryan singlehandedly stopped any PRO2A votes as speaker, including Constitutional Carry nationwide.

Yes they were identifying themselves, as a SOVERIGN NATION. Laws have been established which include immigration and it's requirements.

People outside those laws, are illegal, and hence criminals right from the moment they stepped into our borders. The numbers here so far meet every requirement to be considered an INVASION.

Our response to that should be about protecting America and to hell with these invaders. Pushing them all back into Mexico and letting them deal with it all is acceptable to me.

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Um yea no shit Sherlock. Exept the "single handedly" thing. They always have someone to "single handedly" stop stuff. Incredible coincedence.

And when it happens again it's not going to be any diffrent.

You are blaming the people coming here instead of the people recruiting them to come here and the people paying them to come here. Seems logical...

You seem to fundementally misunderstand what a fundamental right. Fundamental rights endowed on us by our creator are for everyone.

I want them to take thier guns and thier new ideals home with them and clean up their own countries.

I would argue that "We the people" phrase merely describes who/the group that is wanting to establish a new order/union of disparate states and are writing a new Constitution document these states will follow, not that the whole document only applies to "people of the United States" entirely; there are several laws later spelled out inside that explicitly state "a person" meaning may/may not be an actual citizen, so the first sentence of that preamble "we the people" probably doesn't mean everything that later follows applies only to citizens. The 2nd amendment's intent was to say that this new federal government is prohibited from writing laws that infringe and disallow people to arm and protect themselves because self-defense is a natural right for everyone.

For this reason, I think the new ruling that reviewed a federal statute and realizing it violates the 2nd is proper and they overstepped the "infringing" part when they wrote it. They should not be able to make any laws that restrict arms at all, per the 2nd, if you ask me.

The fact these particular people are also here illegally, is a separate issue, but can be dealt with the laws that already apply to that specific crime.

Mcrider55 said:

Trump, along with damn near every Republican voter didn't realize the level of corruption in DC, especially with Republican politicians. The deep state heavily included Repubs in power. McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and their underlings along with democrats and the entrenched bureaucrats. We know SO MUCH more about what's been going on in America since 2016. The relentless attacks on Trump, Covid, the stealing of an election, Soros money and influence, and so much more. Ryan singlehandedly stopped any PRO2A votes as speaker, including Constitutional Carry nationwide.

Yes they were identifying themselves, as a SOVERIGN NATION. Laws have been established which include immigration and it's requirements.

People outside those laws, are illegal, and hence criminals right from the moment they stepped into our borders. The numbers here so far meet every requirement to be considered an INVASION.

Our response to that should be about protecting America and to hell with these invaders. Pushing them all back into Mexico and letting them deal with it all is acceptable to me.

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I can't disagree with any of this.

supercorndogs said:

Um yea no shit Sherlock. Exept the "single handedly" thing. They always have someone to "single handedly" stop stuff. Incredible coincedence.

And when it happens again it's not going to be any diffrent.

You are blaming the people coming here instead of the people recruiting them to come here and the people paying them to come here. Seems logical...

You seem to fundementally misunderstand what a fundamental right. Fundamental rights endowed on us by our creator are for everyone.

I want them to take thier guns and thier new ideals home with them and clean up their own countries.

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You make a fundamental mistake of attempting to tell me about a subject when you don't seem to even understand the entire issue.

I blame the deep state, including powers on both sides. Hell yes I blame the invaders, every bit as much as the Chamber of Commerce, and business.

Fundamental RIGHTS don't exist in 99% of the world, so don't tell me about that shit. Our RIGHTS are entrenched to be protected by law by the people of America. WE have the RIGHT to set our own laws and standards.

So fuck these invaders. I see them as an invading army and I suggest you prepare for the SHTF because it's coming. When the freebies run out to these 10 million, it's going to become downtown Brazil, survival of the fittest. Those who live in larger cities are in for a world of shit.

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So fuck these invaders. I see them as an invading army and I suggest you prepare for the SHTF because it's coming. When the freebies run out to these 10 million, it's going to become downtown Brazil, survival of the fittest. Those who live in larger cities are in for a world of shit.

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Sir, I respectfully disagree with you on one point. It won't be 10 million. The number of invaders is more like 30-50 million. Not all of them will want to be combatants. There might be about 5 million that will cause mayhem. The rest of them will be supporting the criminals. So, IMHO, there isn't a clean one in the bunch.

It became clear to me back when Hillary got the pass on her federal crimes and destruction of evidence.
The Durham and Bar slow-walking all the criminal investigations just cemented the entire cabal's depth.

The Epstein shit should have been pretty clear as well, but nobody knew how deep that went.

Mcrider55 said:

You make a fundamental mistake of attempting to tell me about a subject when you don't seem to even understand the entire issue.

I blame the deep state, including powers on both sides. Hell yes I blame the invaders, every bit as much as the Chamber of Commerce, and business.

Fundamental RIGHTS don't exist in 99% of the world, so don't tell me about that shit. Our RIGHTS are entrenched to be protected by law by the people of America. WE have the RIGHT to set our own laws and standards.

So fuck these invaders. I see them as an invading army and I suggest you prepare for the SHTF because it's coming. When the freebies run out to these 10 million, it's going to become downtown Brazil, survival of the fittest. Those who live in larger cities are in for a world of shit.

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Nope you don't understand fundamental rights.

Laws don't protect rights.

Mcrider55 said:

Trump, along with damn near every Republican voter didn't realize the level of corruption in DC, especially with Republican politicians. The deep state heavily included Repubs in power. McConnell, Boehner, Ryan and their underlings along with democrats and the entrenched bureaucrats. We know SO MUCH more about what's been going on in America since 2016. The relentless attacks on Trump, Covid, the stealing of an election, Soros money and influence, and so much more. Ryan singlehandedly stopped any PRO2A votes as speaker, including Constitutional Carry nationwide.

Yes they were identifying themselves, as a SOVERIGN NATION. Laws have been established which include immigration and it's requirements.

People outside those laws, are illegal, and hence criminals right from the moment they stepped into our borders. The numbers here so far meet every requirement to be considered an INVASION.

Our response to that should be about protecting America and to hell with these invaders. Pushing them all back into Mexico and letting them deal with it all is acceptable to me.

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Mike Pence and Paul RINO Ryan hatched some grandiose plan to betray Trump and run on a Pence/Ryan ticket.