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They should definitely give the 318 more FOV.
This. I mean, why not just update an optic instead of reinvent the wheel? Rolling out a 3-18/5-25 with a better eyepiece would have been sufficient to have my attention (but not really because SKMR). I wish more companies would iterate on current designs rather than try and launch a huge "gamechanger" with a lot of potential compromises.
I think it’s really going to struggle with both eye relief and eye box, so just depends on if the FOV and huge magnification range are really what you need or not. Personally I’d take a hit on each to not have to fight to get behind it and to be able to see my shots more reliably
For me it was rather easy to get behind the model unit that was mounted on the ACC Elite. For a scope of that size and mag range I was thinking it would be like my March 5-42 but it wasn’t. The eyepiece is so huge on the 328i I think it really helps itself in that forgiveness for what it is.
Does anyone have a K3-28 on order or know when they're expected to start showing up?
I heard March for initial folks to get some, but that might delay.
Yes, hopefully in the next 4-8 weeks is what I was given.
If Kahles parks a 2-16 or something similar in between the new k18i-2 and this gigantic k328i …. That’s gonna be killer. I bet there’s more to come from them.
Kahles, you have my interest.
Will certainly have a look at this at EnforceTac and IWA in 2 weeks' time.
Will certainly have a look at this at EnforceTac and IWA in 2 weeks' time.
It’s called the K318i… It’s been around for years.
Who has pre-ordered this scope? What is your intended use: competition, crossover/hunting, or? Just trying to get an idea of who this scope is appealing to.
At well over 40+ ounces by the time you add rings I'm going to guess PRS or similar is going to be it's primary use case.
urban/long-range SWS for .mil, one possibility,
urban work guns you see 3-15 alot...
if Kahles wanted to throw me a K328I DLR SKMR+ i'd throw it on my NRL Hunter/Comp Dynamics build, especially with the SKMR+ reticle...hated their tree. not much different than the Zeiss S5 that sit's on top now weight wise
even a 37oz scope fits a 12 pound build pretty well. get to 14 or 16 pounds and it's smooth sailing
Having just shot a NRL Hunter match, I never went below 7x or above 16x, I could see the 3-28 in the heavy class but less so in light.
I must say I think there should be an ultra-light class, 12 lbs is pretty heavy to walk around with in a real hunt/stalk situation.
I weighed in at 9 lbs including suppressor, bipod and Underground Precision micro rail/bag hanging off my ARCA rail.
Day one was a dumpster fire as I struggled with the non-shooting aspect of the comp.
Day two I performed much better as I figured out the small details and had a blast. I'll be back.
Played with the 3-28 this weekend at the Hunt Show. I’m impressed as I could be evaluating indoors. Eyebox is not bad at all. Easy to get behind on the fake rifle mount. Tried to evaluate DOF but didn’t seem bad initially. Same with parallax. Like the 10mm turret model.
Only negative so far it that it’s HUGE (36mm). Wow.
I’d initially thought differently than most it sounds like. I was thinking about putting it on a Seekins Element 7PRC. Element weighs 5lb 14oz on my scale. Was thinking being that light I could afford the extra 328 weight. Put my name on the new Seekins SLAM but don’t think the 328 would be ideal on that rifle. Just too big.
Only negative so far it that it’s HUGE (36mm). Wow.
I’d initially thought differently than most it sounds like. I was thinking about putting it on a Seekins Element 7PRC. Element weighs 5lb 14oz on my scale. Was thinking being that light I could afford the extra 328 weight. Put my name on the new Seekins SLAM but don’t think the 328 would be ideal on that rifle. Just too big.
I thought the same about putting it on a hunting setup. I just don’t know if you could balance it right.
Agree
My buddy has one that he uses as a spotter.
So long as it never sees recoil and never needs to use the turret it works great! The reticle hasn't broken yet!
(It's zero'd to his match rifle, so he is not only carrying a spotter with reticle but also a whole spare scope. The fact that he won't leave it on his match rifle and it's only use is backup because he can't sell it is telling).
It has glass that is noticably worse than my mark 5s. That one example had me sure I'd never buy one.
Don't the the Kahles have a 100% repeatability score on the SH tests so far?
Not a clue. I know this one has had work done because it had something fail internally.
100% on tracking. There was no durability component to those tests.
I really liked my March 4.5-28x52 on my AR-10 and it did really well, in fact, @lennyo3034 used his March 4.5-28 to win the PRS gas comp a year or two back, great weight and mag range, for a comp gun the K328i shouldn't be too bad but my LMT is heavy enough as it is so for this year I switched things up and put the March 1.5-15x42 FFP scope on there as I'd like to play around with it for some pig hunting as well as longer ranges with some steel.
If the K328i gets some really good early reviews I may take a chance on it for a review later this year...
Got to play with the March 1.5-15 a little bit. Intriguing. Pretty sure its eyebox is a little more finicky than the 328. Could be wrong. Wasn’t side by side. Size and weight were great.
I didn’t mean to indicate the 1.5-15 is anything close to the 3.5-28, the March 4.5-28 would be a much closer comparison. The 1.5-15 is a completely different animal with nothing else in the market like it right now. Sorry for confusion.
Here’s the 10mil version. Really like that option.
For a long time Kahles had the next best turrets compared to TT IMO, these new 10 mil should do quite well.
Got a chance to play with it today. A really nice eyebox for an 8x zoom and a crispy clear image without noticable CA. (as far as I can tell indoors) It does kind of make it hard to look through other scopes. I am definitely impressed with it! The price is another matter. (the blurry pic is on about 20x and the other one is at full 28x)
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Would you do the AMR reticle? If not, why, what would you do?
AMR reminds of GRID.
AMR??? As far as I know the K328i is only being offered in SKMR+ and SKMR4+ reticles. I am not a huge fan of the solid christmas tree's horizontal bar, I would probably opt for SKMR+ but would like to see how well the SKMR4+ looks before making final decision.
I was looking at this page - https://www.kahles.at/en/sport/riflescopes/k328i-3_5-28x50i-dlr which may be different from the non-DLR page you are looking at, I like the idea of the DLR with 10 mil turret but I would much prefer the MSR2 reticle, shame that they make you choose between them... IMO the AMR is worse than GR2ID, but I can't stand busy reticles which is subjective and personal preference.
I have the K18i-2. FOV is incredible. Spoils you compared to other scopes. Happy to see they're putting that tech in other models.
Nope. Unfortunately it looks like Area 419 and Philip Velayo are the only folks that got a scope early outside of a show. I'm sure other scope ring manufactures should be getting one or 2 soon so they can produce rings for the 328.
Looking on Kahles FB page they said they should be heading to dealers now.
The AMR isn't that busy in reality (at least to my eyes), but it sure looks busy on paper.
My .300NM has a K624i with an AMR reticle. It's a great reticle (for ELR, IMO), but the center part of the reticle would be much better served with a fine dot.
I know marketing and advertising in the fire arms space is generally cringe worthy at best but my god that video is horrific.
Surely the Spuhr 36mm mounts will work? Along with any of the ZCO or early Zeiss V8 mounts at a guess.
I only use Hawkins Precision Rings if I have a choice.
Hawkins has a 36mm mount and rings. So does Badger ordnance, spuhr, APA, A419, ZCO, Eratac, MPA, ARC, Geissele, and probably others I'm not thinking of.
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