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Are any military sniper stories true?

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Carlos Hathcock shooting someone off a bicycle at 2,500yd with an M2 and 8x Unertl scope? Is any part of it true?

Did Bradley Cooper really shoot someone from a brazilian miles away in durkastan?

At least these people existed. I won't even acknowledge whatever they're saying about ukraine women who take time off from OF thotting to be snipers.
 
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higginsworksforme said:
Carlos Hathcock shooting someone off a bicycle at 2,500yd with an M2 and 8x Unertl scope? Is any part of it true?

Did Bradley Cooper really shoot someone from a brazilian miles away in durkastan?

At least these people existed. I won't even acknowledge whatever they're saying about ukraine women who take time off from OF thotting to be snipers.
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What is true is that you cannot read worth a shit. Carlos Hathcock opens the book with him shooting the front wheel of a bike a dink kid was using to cart guns to his VC buddy and somewhere towards the end of the book he was using an M2 Browning machine gun with a mounted scope to shoot a VC while witnessed by his commander. Two completely different events a year apart. Good luck with that reading.

Shooting people with a scoped 50 cal goes back to the Korean war when troops were on different ridges over 1000 yds apart and our guys really wanted to shoot their guys, they have photos and everything. The farthest shots in Afghanistan are from Canadian shooters using some form of 50 cal bolt rifles and they too are witnessed.

Chris Kyle bullshit has to be taken with a grain of salt because Navy SEALS are notorious liars. He did have over 200 kills according to sources but he did include complete bullshit in the book. As far as Ukrainian strippers and most of that other bullshit, who the fuck knows? Having spent considerable time on a firing line, I can tell you women shooters tend to listen and follow instructions, unlike males cunts who cannot read and comprehend and for some reason believe their skills at "Call of Duty" translate to actual skills on a rifle range. It is possible to train a women to shoot at distance fairly easily and you do not have to be Ranger fit to do it with some degree of skill.

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Canada's 50 cal rifle seems to work.


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For 35 Years, The Longest Sniper Kill Was With a Ma-Duece -

While the current record for the longest “confirmed” sniper kill is over 2,700 yards (just over 1.5) miles, with a .338 Lapua Magnum round, for nearly 35 years the record stood not with a traditional centerfire rifle, but with a modified M2 Browning Heavy Machine Gun, affectionately known as the...
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It is called Google, try it sometime. Damn.
 
lonegunman762x51 said:
What is true is that you cannot read worth a shit. Carlos Hathcock opens the book with him shooting the front wheel of a bike a dink kid was using to cart guns to his VC buddy and somewhere towards the end of the book he was using an M2 Browning machine gun with a mounted scope to shoot a VC while witnessed by his commander. Two completely different events a year apart. Good luck with that reading.

Shooting people with a scoped 50 cal goes back to the Korean war when troops were on different ridges over 1000 yds apart and our guys really wanted to shoot their guys, they have photos and everything. The farthest shots in Afghanistan are from Canadian shooters using some form of 50 cal bolt rifles and they too are witnessed.

Chris Kyle bullshit has to be taken with a grain of salt because Navy SEALS are notorious liars. He did have over 200 kills according to sources but he did include complete bullshit in the book. As far as Ukrainian strippers and most of that other bullshit, who the fuck knows? Having spent considerable time on a firing line, I can tell you women shooters tend to listen and follow instructions, unlike males cunts who cannot read and comprehend and for some reason believe their skills at "Call of Duty" translate to actual skills on a rifle range. It is possible to train a women to shoot at distance fairly easily and you do not have to be Ranger fit to do it with some degree of skill.

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Ma Deuce is a fairly accurate weapons system. It's not a bolt action, but she'll do

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higginsworksforme said:
Sounds like you bought it hook like and sinker. You probably think we won Vietnam too LMAO
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Ask the Vietnamese if they want to do it again? We killed well over 1,000,000 of them and they killed 53,000 of us. A win in any league. Except to Biden voters and left wing trolls. Go back over to DU already you leftist cunt.
 
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lonegunman762x51 said:
Ask the Vietnamese if they want to do it again? We killed well over 1,000,000 of them and they killed 53,000 of us. A win in any league. Except to Biden voters and left wing trolls. Go back over to DU already you leftist cunt.
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And now we buy their cheap stuff. When do we start buying cheap junk from Afghanistan?
 
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I dunno about things being true or false but what I don’t believe is when people claim they made the shot on their first attempt.
 
You can just stop at "are any military stories true". Nobody lies more than someone with a war story. We would come back from deployments, and then literally lie to each other about events we were all in, and then we would all build off that same lie. A simple HV ride to reposition a dish for satcomm turns into an all out firefight with insurgents once we get back stateside and start telling tales.
 
They are all bullshit. The government creates heroes when the war starts to wear on the nerves of the population. They use snipers because it allows them to single out an individual for glory, (civilians imagine snipers are out there by themselves). The formula is well established. I predicted a heroic female Ukranian "sniper" would be propped up by the media at some point, and I made that prediction almost 3 years ago.

Here's an easy way to prove what I'm telling you: there is no such thing as a "confirmed kill", and there never was. Anyone who claims to have them is lying, and if the government's is pretending they are real, it's because they created the story. It's all bullshit.
 
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Once, a long time ago, in the before times, I questioned the movie "American Sniper" about Chris Kyle turning around and making that shot from roof top to roof top at over a mile. Through the scope.

I was soundly rebuked that it was true because it was in Kyle's book. And of course, a SEAL never lies, except about being quiet at having been stationed on the laotian, cambodian border, etcetera, or being in a country where we have no permission in order to paint a target for a missile strike, etcetera.

The trajectory of the round is such that you are more likely to dome the guy. Bullets do not maintain the same level of altitude. They are falling toward the earth upon leaving the muzzle.

Mythbusters could not make it happen at relatively short ranges.

I have read and listened to Ryan Cleckner (sniper team leader in the Rangers 1/75.) When he was in service, there was no trying to pierce ear lobes. You get a hit in an IPSC out to 500 yards max. Otherwise, you do sneaky bastard stuff and get in closer.

Like the shot at the bad guy's hand on the snowy mountain in "The Shooter." The time of flight and the wind currents on mountain tops, you are more likely to kill the girl.

Did Hatchcock dress it up a bit? I am thinking so. But he was also pragmatic at times. The only way to truly dope the rifle was stick with one round and shoot and walk out to 1,000 yards. There were no ballistic solvers back then.

I have seen an interview with a canadian sniper who had just achieved the longest sniper kill. And he talked about having to walk the shot in. He had dialed all the elevation he could get and still had to hold over.

That's less sexy than reading a wind flag and calling it good.

Now, to be fair, maybe the canadian could have got it done in one shot if the enemy looked like a can of Dinty Moore stew.

I liked Raymond Cruz in "Clear and Present Danger."

 
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higginsworksforme said:
The one that resulted in the loss of South Vietnam.

Don't bother; I'll answer it. It was both. No need to move goalposts.
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The north was tits up.
The democrats needed an angle for the coming election and snatched defeat from an all but complete victory.
Also how the ROE of the north on bombing and more were a fucking joke while at war.

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Carlos Hathcock shooting Cobra through the eye via his own scope with a Remington 70 30-06? Why not?
 
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