Abolishing the ATF?
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The other day, I realized I didn't understand why the ATF existed. We have the Treasury to go after people with tax problems, so that covers alcohol and tobacco. We have the FBI to go after people who commit gun crimes, and the FBI can certainly trace weapons if it has a database. The FBI can chase people who misbehave with explosives. We used to have no ATF.
Seems like having a separate agency must lead to confusion and turf wars.
Seems like having a separate agency must lead to confusion and turf wars.
I saw commentary on this the other day. In order to abolish the ATF, we should first abolish the underlying things that give the ATF enforcement capabilities (e.g. NFA, Gun Control act of 1968, etc. etc.). Otherwise, the functions of the ATF would simply transfer to other Alphabet agencies. Get rid of the fundamental things behind the ATF and you then get rid of the ATF.
Looks like Burlison is heading in the right direction.
Looks like Burlison is heading in the right direction.
Wake me up when 60 senators sign off. Democrats will want full and future amnesty fir 50 million people, and then some other shit.
If they can’t be abolished inflict so much diversity training and other administrative shit on them that they have time for nothing else. Make every single employee do Constitution training for 4 hour a day and don’t let them do any LE actions until AFTER they pass a 1000 question closed book test. The section responsible for approving suppressors etc will be exempt from the requirement.
And if they get time to do a raid, inflict the 18+ slide CONOP process that was inflicted on CJSOTF-A back in 2011, except quadruple it.
And if they get time to do a raid, inflict the 18+ slide CONOP process that was inflicted on CJSOTF-A back in 2011, except quadruple it.
I took a rifle course, and a lot of the guys used silencers. The instructors were two military snipers who had served their country. One of them said an ATF agent had joined one of his classes. This colostomy bag of a man interrupted a lecture to ask the instructor if he had his stamp with him. Made him stop the lecture and pull it out.
It would be nice to see firearms crimes under the jurisdiction of people who are at least a little less obsessed with taking away our civil rights and punishing us for exercising them. The FBI is bad enough.
Why would an ATF agent take a rifle course anyway? Mr. Popularity there, I'll bet.
It would be nice to see firearms crimes under the jurisdiction of people who are at least a little less obsessed with taking away our civil rights and punishing us for exercising them. The FBI is bad enough.
Why would an ATF agent take a rifle course anyway? Mr. Popularity there, I'll bet.
I kind of like what Matt Hoover said. The NFA and ATF were created to keep guns away from black people. Putting on what was then an oppressive tax stamp priced it out of the hands of the poor and the working class. That way, only wealthy people and organized criminals could afford them.
i'll be damned if i helped train any of those people. and i would have shown him what i was legally obligated to, then thrown him out of the fucking class.
I agree he should have been thrown out, and they should also have put his picture on the wall for laughs. I don't think the instructor had the authority to throw him out, because I'm sure he would have if he had.
