Suppressors Abel Company - new offerings - Suppressors!
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I got to try one of these out last month.
One rifle was an AI AT in 308 with a 24” barrel, omnidirectional brake, and shooting 175 FGMM.
The other rifle was an AI AT-X in 308 with a 16” barrel, Theorem with brake end attached, and shooting 175 FGMM.
The 16” with with the Theorem with brake end attached was very noticeably better for spotting impacts and misses.
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I ordered a theorum last night. Plan to get a brake cap once they're available to purchase and use this as my PRS can.
Stoked to see these show up at MH today. Impatiently waiting now for the Theorem brake end caps!!
Got 3 of the Biscuits a couple weeks ago.
One for an SBR bolt gun in .308 and two for SBR 556s.
Everything super nicely finished inside and out.
One for an SBR bolt gun in .308 and two for SBR 556s.
Everything super nicely finished inside and out.
I heard all Abel Co cans specifically in tan are the quietest (based on scientific data)..
These really are high quality cans. My boss has most of the product lines in his gun store, guy i work with has a theorem and its quieter than my 30 cal omega. Way better build quality too. Shoulda waited to buy the 22 can, didnt know that line was coming out. Damn thing is small and stupid quiet. Just wish things were full auto rated, but i know that is a small market.
Yeah they are sure dragging this out. I am bout to order a theorem S and L to keep my standard theorem happy, but I'd really like the brake cap for them!
Some background one why it is taking longer than expected.
The prototypes were made on several machines and to get them at a production level to our standard we would have had to price them at a level we weren’t comfortable with.
We ended up getting a new machine that can do the entire operation from start to finish and pop out a completely finalized part (minus coating)
That machine should be spitting out parts in two weeks and the first batch of items is the theorem brakes.
Awesome! Machine efficiency is important, and the opposite can def drive up pricing. Looking forward to getting a few to try out!
Do you guys have photos of the final design you could post up?
Oooo that's sexy! Is that the standard theorem or S model?! Can't tell if there is an S in the shadow or not.
Correct, theorem-s
We are going to be posting a lot more videos to our YouTube channel shortly so give us a follow. I will also post the videos here on the hide
Don't believe it's been offered? If so, then I total missed it. I don't think they're manufactured and coated yet.
We arent doing preorders, I dont want to take peoples money without having a hard date. When they are ready they will be at dealers and on the website and Ill announce it here first!
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Had some delays but they are finally coming off the machine. Plan is to drop a bunch off for coating early next week
This is turning into a long drawn out affair. They had pictures of the brake caps released like 6 months ago right?
Yes we did have a handful back in November, those prototypes were made between 3 different machines and the time involved would have made them cost about $500 each, plus, we needed thousands of rounds on them for testing.
Moving them to production after testing, we added a new machine that is able to do the entire machining process from start to finish so that when they come off, they can go to QC and straight to the anodize shop (the only thing we don’t do in house is dlc and ano)
That new machine took longer to setup than anticipated and we will not release a product that isn’t perfect.
It is setup and running brakes, we have a big batch out at ano right now and because of that machine the final price is going to be $185 MSRP.
Moving them to production after testing, we added a new machine that is able to do the entire machining process from start to finish so that when they come off, they can go to QC and straight to the anodize shop (the only thing we don’t do in house is dlc and ano)
That new machine took longer to setup than anticipated and we will not release a product that isn’t perfect.
It is setup and running brakes, we have a big batch out at ano right now and because of that machine the final price is going to be $185 MSRP.
That's awesome, well done! And thank you for taking the time to invest, lower cost to consumer, and extensively test so that we are not beta-testers. Respect.
DLC and Aluminum doesn’t react very well together.
We will be doing limited drops of Ti/DLC and 17-4/raw patina. The Ti/dlc will likely be significantly more expensive just because of material and overall machine time.
No problem! We are not fans of the “customers = beta testers” model so we have been running the absolute crap out of them to make sure there aren’t any issues. We have had specific people around the country helping with that testing and it’s awesome to see the feedback over months of progress. Several matches have now been won with them and I’m confident the extended wait will be worth it!
Now that they are complete and in production, they will be run along with everything else and be readily available at dealers and on our website. (I’ll update this thread as soon as they are live on the website)
I've never been so excited for something to come out of California!
Gimme gimme gimme
Gimme gimme gimme
Yeah not really a fan of Aluminum on my Suppressors so I will be going for either the 17-4 or the Ti. I would 100% expect it to be more money.
Excited for the 17-4/patina Theorem brake option... Now I just need to patiently wait for your PCC- can(s)....(hoping for a "Biscuit" 9mm 3 lug- just saying)
There is a 9mm PCC can in the works… that’s as much as I can say for now though.
I have a ti hub/hellfire adapter on my Theorem, didn't have two so running the TheoremS with the steel direct thread at the moment. Will likely get a Ti one to drop some weight. These are awesome supressors.
Thats the material selection for the adaptor itself, not of the host can.
The thread interface of "HUB" 1.375x24 should be HUB regardless of what its cut into.
2.4oz for steel and 1.3 for titanium, you chose how much weight is worth to you, for 70 extra bucks.
Rog, understood. I just didn't know if mixing two types of metals at the connection point was an issue.
So brake is available for order through dealer, but unavailable through manufacturer retail. Even more confusing.
Agreed. I only went by what I was told.
I specifically requested the Theorem S WITH NEW Brake (I reiterated this several times), dealer confirmed the order.
Hey guys, brakes are on the dealer price list but haven’t shipped yet. We are working with the Anodize company to get an acceptable finish that meets our quality expectations.
Unfortunately this is an outside process that we can’t do in house and we are at the mercy of these coating companies. We won’t compromise quality to rush the brakes.
They are so close!
Unfortunately this is an outside process that we can’t do in house and we are at the mercy of these coating companies. We won’t compromise quality to rush the brakes.
They are so close!
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