How about we have a thread about the "paranormal"?
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You guys remember those creepy “Black Eyed Kids” stories?
My favorite Art Bell was the guy who talked about being a soldier in some alien war (sorta like stargate except the gate was a tunnel that took months to walk through). And how the aliens ate any humans who died along the way. Then they get to the other side and have to fight in some alien version of D Day and then afterward walk back through the space tunnel. He was on for about an hour and Art was just "oh wow and then what happened". Just let him monopolize the whole program.
The women callers who always had some story about a ghost/vampire were annoying.
The women callers who always had some story about a ghost/vampire were annoying.
First I've heard of it but it looks up my alley, appreciate the tip! Looks like they're on Youtube so I'll check them out.
I've shared it here before but one of my favorite podcasts on the topic is "MrBallen" who has several channels of various subjects. Recently I came across "heart starts beating with w/ Kaelyn Moore" which so far has been decent. Even Buzzfeed had a show called "unsolved" which was more lighthearted but told decent stories about various urban legends, hauntings, ghosts, demons, whatever.
-LD
Any Christian who is interested in these topics in any way should check out Mike Heiser. He is a legit Bible scholar who thinks well and deeply about such things. He is mainly known for his Deuteronomy 32 world view, but talks an aliens and other paranormal things. His biggest work is The Unseen Realm, but also has written Angles, Demons, Reversing Hermon, etc. He also had a YouTube channel called FringePop321. Again he is a well respected Bible scholar who worked for Logos and is one of the foremost theologians on this kind of stuff. I highly encourage you to check out his stuff. Sadly he passed a few years ago
Art Bell got the good ones, George Noory got the ones where it was all "my uncle worked at Area 51" type of shit.
The UFO I saw was way the fuck up highway 20 out in the hills, I remember it being sort of a triangle with a bright round light in the middle, we all thought it was a helicopter but the light was too big and it was pure/LED type blue white (this was back when those lights didn't exist, like 2001-2002).
The answer is more than likely always government projects. Before the b-2 was admitted to magically everyone was seeing black triangles in the desert
On the topic-
Tonight I'll add the subject of pyramids- specifically how that building concept is repeated across several continents (and in many instances) modern day archeologists are still baffled as to the "why" they were built...
Take the Pyramids of Egypt for example- what "we" were taught may likely vary depending on our age but for myself- I was originally taught that the Pyramids of Giza were built as burial chambers (although we didn't know 'how' they built them).
So fast forward to present day- I like to still consider myself a "student of history" and one of the things I find so fascinating on the topic is how the older I get the less I seem to know (despite reading everything I can on some topics).
So back to the Pyramids- the older I get the more I question the lack of.... documentation for a lack of better words (hieroglyphics as an example) or really just any attempt to make the passages in the pyramids 'ornate' even slightly.
Yet we have these "great big things" (in this case pyramids) without any of the fanfare that exists elsewhere in Egypt- such as, say the Valley of the Kings where the other Pharaohs were entombed (and with rich 'documentation' inscribed on the walls of their tombs...
The difference (and lack of explanation as to why the difference exists) is weird right?
-LD
Tonight I'll add the subject of pyramids- specifically how that building concept is repeated across several continents (and in many instances) modern day archeologists are still baffled as to the "why" they were built...
Take the Pyramids of Egypt for example- what "we" were taught may likely vary depending on our age but for myself- I was originally taught that the Pyramids of Giza were built as burial chambers (although we didn't know 'how' they built them).
So fast forward to present day- I like to still consider myself a "student of history" and one of the things I find so fascinating on the topic is how the older I get the less I seem to know (despite reading everything I can on some topics).
So back to the Pyramids- the older I get the more I question the lack of.... documentation for a lack of better words (hieroglyphics as an example) or really just any attempt to make the passages in the pyramids 'ornate' even slightly.
Yet we have these "great big things" (in this case pyramids) without any of the fanfare that exists elsewhere in Egypt- such as, say the Valley of the Kings where the other Pharaohs were entombed (and with rich 'documentation' inscribed on the walls of their tombs...
The difference (and lack of explanation as to why the difference exists) is weird right?
-LD
So you're on "team" slavery that got shit done? (I should have likely prefaced that remark to ask first if your opinion was shaped on biblical recantations).
I should add- it's fine with me if (or if not) that is accurate- but, if you'll grant me some grace here...
I'll throw this in- I believe that we used to be able to accomplish "great big things" in our history (and recent history for that matter).
But- I'm not sure we can anymore. To explain that- I think of the Hoover Dam, I think of the Panama Canal and how "great" those achievements were for that time period... But I can't help but wonder.... and put things in present perspectives and wonder if we'd be able to embark on the same projects now (in 2025) or if we haven't legislated ourselves out of future achievements?
I only offer that as a conversation point, I obviously have my thoughts on the matter but thought I'd throw it out there regardless.
-LD
But- I'm not sure we can anymore. To explain that- I think of the Hoover Dam, I think of the Panama Canal and how "great" those achievements were for that time period... But I can't help but wonder.... and put things in present perspectives and wonder if we'd be able to embark on the same projects now (in 2025) or if we haven't legislated ourselves out of future achievements?
I only offer that as a conversation point, I obviously have my thoughts on the matter but thought I'd throw it out there regardless.
-LD
Here's my "pitch" on why this should be another "chapter" here...
First off- I'd humbly suggest calling the proposed new section "The Marsh". Two reasons for that- (1) I'm a duck and that terminology is self-serving to my "legacy" on this forum and (2) it fits the 'vibe' since it'd be the place where the discussions can tend to get a bit.. murky/muddy/whatever your choice of words are. So.. win-win with the terms thus far (from my perspective at least).
Then in "The Marsh" you could have have sub forums/ or as I'd like to reference them as "puddles" or "lily pads" with different topics related to various phenomenon not yet explainable. So as an example you could have a "puddle" (I prefer that term personally) about the topic of life outside of earth, another "puddle" could be mythological(?) creatures or maybe even urban legends. A personal plug for myself- lost civilizations and the evidence that is coming up to support that theory or a more general- "new discoveries that challenge our previous understandings". Each type of topic in its own "puddle" but focused on the interesting facts of various topics rather than the stereotype of "living in a self constructed bunker while wearing a tinfoil hat" mantra.
But we've covered so many of these topics- premonitions before the passing of a loved one & the sudden visions/comfort they experienced, unexplained "guttural" hints not to pursue a certain course of action which proved to be self sustaining, the concept of having "deja vu", seeing things in the sky that shouldn't be there (at least per our understanding). This doesn't make us "weird" but rather just observant by my metrics.
It wasn't but a couple hundred years ago that EVERYONE knew the sun revolved around the Earth- until it was proven it didn't. We thought we knew EVERYTHING about our solar system until we found... well some more planets, and those planets had some moons we didn't know about... etc. etc. BUT- then we find some otherwise ancient civilizations that (for one reason or another) seemed to have figured this out a couple centuries previously....
And around we go (?).
That's my "pitch" and here's why I think it'd be interesting- I know it's 2025 and we've figured out SO much stuff that couldn't even have been fathomed a 100 or more years ago. BUT- I also believe that we've got so much more to learn, so much more to explore and so much more of what we believe to be reality that'll soon be proven inaccurate.
-LD
First off- I'd humbly suggest calling the proposed new section "The Marsh". Two reasons for that- (1) I'm a duck and that terminology is self-serving to my "legacy" on this forum and (2) it fits the 'vibe' since it'd be the place where the discussions can tend to get a bit.. murky/muddy/whatever your choice of words are. So.. win-win with the terms thus far (from my perspective at least).
Then in "The Marsh" you could have have sub forums/ or as I'd like to reference them as "puddles" or "lily pads" with different topics related to various phenomenon not yet explainable. So as an example you could have a "puddle" (I prefer that term personally) about the topic of life outside of earth, another "puddle" could be mythological(?) creatures or maybe even urban legends. A personal plug for myself- lost civilizations and the evidence that is coming up to support that theory or a more general- "new discoveries that challenge our previous understandings". Each type of topic in its own "puddle" but focused on the interesting facts of various topics rather than the stereotype of "living in a self constructed bunker while wearing a tinfoil hat" mantra.
But we've covered so many of these topics- premonitions before the passing of a loved one & the sudden visions/comfort they experienced, unexplained "guttural" hints not to pursue a certain course of action which proved to be self sustaining, the concept of having "deja vu", seeing things in the sky that shouldn't be there (at least per our understanding). This doesn't make us "weird" but rather just observant by my metrics.
It wasn't but a couple hundred years ago that EVERYONE knew the sun revolved around the Earth- until it was proven it didn't. We thought we knew EVERYTHING about our solar system until we found... well some more planets, and those planets had some moons we didn't know about... etc. etc. BUT- then we find some otherwise ancient civilizations that (for one reason or another) seemed to have figured this out a couple centuries previously....
And around we go (?).
That's my "pitch" and here's why I think it'd be interesting- I know it's 2025 and we've figured out SO much stuff that couldn't even have been fathomed a 100 or more years ago. BUT- I also believe that we've got so much more to learn, so much more to explore and so much more of what we believe to be reality that'll soon be proven inaccurate.
-LD
Took my dog for a walk to our main pasture and found a dead deer wrapped up in the fence in a way I couldn't figure out. Somehow got its feet wrapped up like it had flipped over the fence which seemed impossible because it was only the bottom few wires of the fence. Was missing its eyes too. Figured it must've run from up the hill where I had a trail camera so I went up and grabbed the memory card to see what happened. Found the memory card was corrupted and had files with random dates from the past and future. Couldn't open any of the files because they were unsupported file types. I'm not saying it was aliens but I'm pretty sure it was aliens. 
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IIFY (Improved If For You). Firstly by making it shorter. Secondly by making it FAR more entertaining to read.
I once woke from from a dream into another dream then I woke up from that dream and there were still tards in the world. This sounds ultranormal but it seems to fit here.
I think I've already told the story of the "peeping Tom" on here... The strange face my daughter saw in her window one night. I'll tell it again if anyone asks.
Got a new one too...
Happened to a buddy I work with. He's about 15 years younger than me. Smart kid. Level-headed. Likes to hunt hogs... Bays them up with dogs and then sticks them with a knife... Not much scares him.
He and another coworker went and did an electrical job at a church. He said it was a bit creepy being so empty but it didn't bother him much. They wound up doing the work in 2 phases a few weeks apart. Worked on one thing, then left for a few weeks. Then they came back and finished up.
He said a day or two after they left from finishing the first part, he realized he had left his flashlight there. No big deal, he knew he was going back.
Goes back a few weeks later and they're working in a different part of the building... He figured he would finish the last part and then backtrack the other part of the building to see if he could find his flashlight.
He goes into a classroom to get started and pops a ceiling tile.
And there sits his flashlight.
And it's still on and burning.
He said they finished up pretty quick and got out.
When I asked what he thought about it he just said he couldn't explain it... And he didn't like to think about it to try and come up with a plausible explanation.
Mike
Got a new one too...
Happened to a buddy I work with. He's about 15 years younger than me. Smart kid. Level-headed. Likes to hunt hogs... Bays them up with dogs and then sticks them with a knife... Not much scares him.
He and another coworker went and did an electrical job at a church. He said it was a bit creepy being so empty but it didn't bother him much. They wound up doing the work in 2 phases a few weeks apart. Worked on one thing, then left for a few weeks. Then they came back and finished up.
He said a day or two after they left from finishing the first part, he realized he had left his flashlight there. No big deal, he knew he was going back.
Goes back a few weeks later and they're working in a different part of the building... He figured he would finish the last part and then backtrack the other part of the building to see if he could find his flashlight.
He goes into a classroom to get started and pops a ceiling tile.
And there sits his flashlight.
And it's still on and burning.
He said they finished up pretty quick and got out.
When I asked what he thought about it he just said he couldn't explain it... And he didn't like to think about it to try and come up with a plausible explanation.
Mike
Man did that raise hairs - my trail camera caught the “Michigan fire ball” a well documented phenomenon that occurs around the marshes here - back to native times , one reason not many natives lived right in this particular spot of the state - anyhow a day or so later all files were corrupted and the listed as random dates in future or past - even distant past - the only photo I could open was from that morning - it was a photo of me retrieving the camera- and the data of the photo was Nov 11, 1922.Took my dog for a walk to our main pasture and found a dead deer wrapped up in the fence in a way I couldn't figure out. Somehow got its feet wrapped up like it had flipped over the fence which seemed impossible because it was only the bottom few wires of the fence. Was missing its eyes too. Figured it must've run from up the hill where I had a trail camera so I went up and grabbed the memory card to see what happened. Found the memory card was corrupted and had files with random dates from the past and future. Couldn't open any of the files because they were unsupported file types. I'm not saying it was aliens but I'm pretty sure it was aliens.
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Brief explication- MI fire ball is just what it sounds a fairly large glowing solid sphere shaped object that floats around in the sky- maybe could be mistaken for a Chinese lantern except it move rapidly and the intensity of the light it emits changes from as bright as the sun to dull as a distant candle.
No I’ve seen ball lighting - and it’s not common in these parts . But I’ve never seen ball lighting that can go east to west and then straight up out of sight and then come back to where it started . Very strange phenomenon.
If I’d seen this phenomenon inside at day 3 or 5 of deer camp I’d totally agree - chill beef jerky and beer also are known to cause strange phenomena in a small modular hunting cabin for sure
I like to watch Delafe testimonies and Almost False on youtube. After a while you'll come to two conclusions,
#1 The Almighty Most High God of the bible is real.
#2 There is the demonic realm too.
You either have the "Golden ticket" or you don't and He is that ticket/ Christ. You can't earn your way to heaven because it's only by His amazing grace one is saved and no amount of religion or righteousness within yourself is enough. That's the gospel, which means "good news", that the price was paid for you by God's son coming down from heaven and shedding His precious blood but it didn't stop there because He rose again.
Also God knows if you are sincere or not and will help you turn from your sin if you are.
This whole existence is a test, will you accept that gift and live for Him or will you ignore it and earn the wages of sin and suffer the eventual fate of eternal separation from God forever.
I'm not talking about religion but true surrender to Him. At best a "right on" church is full of flaws and the worst ones are cults, some even meaning well.
The devil and the demons have a million tricks to fool humans into all kinds of sins but the main one is deceiving people into thinking that none of this is real. Best to find out now rather than later.
Seeking paranormal experiences gives a "place" for evil to prosper in ones life. Like I mentioned go watch those videos to see how this has affected people. Were talking about white magic, black magic, incantations, soul travel, and there are many types and offshoots of it. It all leads to spiritual bondage and emptiness of soul and yes demonic possession can be a result.
However God is of course alive and does supernatural miracles too. Heck I shouldn't be alive on earth right now and have experienced real miracles. God moves when and how he wants and one can't make things happen outside of his will.
Love you all and am praying for you!
#1 The Almighty Most High God of the bible is real.
#2 There is the demonic realm too.
You either have the "Golden ticket" or you don't and He is that ticket/ Christ. You can't earn your way to heaven because it's only by His amazing grace one is saved and no amount of religion or righteousness within yourself is enough. That's the gospel, which means "good news", that the price was paid for you by God's son coming down from heaven and shedding His precious blood but it didn't stop there because He rose again.
Also God knows if you are sincere or not and will help you turn from your sin if you are.
This whole existence is a test, will you accept that gift and live for Him or will you ignore it and earn the wages of sin and suffer the eventual fate of eternal separation from God forever.
I'm not talking about religion but true surrender to Him. At best a "right on" church is full of flaws and the worst ones are cults, some even meaning well.
The devil and the demons have a million tricks to fool humans into all kinds of sins but the main one is deceiving people into thinking that none of this is real. Best to find out now rather than later.
Seeking paranormal experiences gives a "place" for evil to prosper in ones life. Like I mentioned go watch those videos to see how this has affected people. Were talking about white magic, black magic, incantations, soul travel, and there are many types and offshoots of it. It all leads to spiritual bondage and emptiness of soul and yes demonic possession can be a result.
However God is of course alive and does supernatural miracles too. Heck I shouldn't be alive on earth right now and have experienced real miracles. God moves when and how he wants and one can't make things happen outside of his will.
Love you all and am praying for you!
It takes a helluva chunky fart to keep an elevator open that long, paraphysical.
That is a bizarre case for sure. And where they discovered the body and the impact the location had on the hotel guests… eek.
Different priorities. Now we're going back to the moon then Mars. Cracked the DNA coding. Etc.
My Dog barks at shit I can't see or hear all the time. Now I am not saying he is seeing ghosts or encountering aliens. I am merely pointing out my feeble human senses, that in no way can perceive all that surrounds me in this construct we live in.
As far as the Pyramids, many were built by sociopaths, whom instead of working on building a nation, wasted all that time and resource on a place for them and their stuff when they died. Thats pretty fucked up. No wonder their empires fell to the wayside. Self serving shit bags. Not impressed, should bull doze them and build a duck pond.
As far as the Pyramids, many were built by sociopaths, whom instead of working on building a nation, wasted all that time and resource on a place for them and their stuff when they died. Thats pretty fucked up. No wonder their empires fell to the wayside. Self serving shit bags. Not impressed, should bull doze them and build a duck pond.
I once stayed wit a woman who warned me about the ghost in the attic. I poo pooed it. Woke up in the middle of the night and heard noises in the attic, like someone dragging something, I got out a Bible and read it a passage about setting the captives free and the noise stopped and I fell back asleep. The next morning the house felt like someone had run it through a washing machine..clean and fresh.
Took my dog for a walk to our main pasture and found a dead deer wrapped up in the fence in a way I couldn't figure out. Somehow got its feet wrapped up like it had flipped over the fence which seemed impossible because it was only the bottom few wires of the fence. Was missing its eyes too. Figured it must've run from up the hill where I had a trail camera so I went up and grabbed the memory card to see what happened. Found the memory card was corrupted and had files with random dates from the past and future. Couldn't open any of the files because they were unsupported file types. I'm not saying it was aliens but I'm pretty sure it was aliens.
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That’s exactly how the aliens do it.
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Our town was founded in 1638. There are many homesites with unmarked family cemeteries. Lots of creepy cemeteries as well. We had a poor house here that was also an insane asylum. The cemetery is overgrown and only has unmarked stones. It is anyone's guess who is buried there. There are many tormented people buried there.
I've never seen an apparition. I have seen my share of strange occurrences, things out of place, and heard noises in locations that were empty. So has my family.
We laugh about it.
They certainly are- however, in this particular instance they were not effective in addressing the "ick" factor and in some ways their inability to be relevant to the matter is what led them to discover the body.
This seems to be off topic, but when I hear this it gets under my skin.
Im typing on a device smaller than my hand that can allow me to communicate with anyone in the world in milliseconds. We can have a face to face conversation live.
I can design a new building, hand a person a mouse and let them walk through their building in 3D. They can look up/down, pan around like standing in the room. They can experience yhe building as though it is built.
I can buy a new car and drive it to 100,000 miles and if I want, I could probably do zero maintenance and it would still run fine. The tires would also still be intact.
I can type an address with my fingers on a screen and it will guide my anywhere in the world.
I watched spaceX catch a rocket bigger and heavier than my house.
Tell me more about how great a project Hoover dam was, where 96 people died building it. We can build a fucking skyscraper today that can fucking move and sway during an earthqauke with zero damage.
Hoover Dam cost about $50 mil....which would be about $800mil today. They are finishing a $4 bil battery plant in DeSoto, KS right now. Total construction deaths.....Zero.
Sorry to derail, but that comment is ignorance.
I know this is the internet & also the Pit to boot so sometimes it's hard to convey tone and sincerity but I'll at least give it an attempt.
First off- to address your comment, for what it's worth I agree with your statement. In some areas we've continued to make great & incredible progress in (specifically advancing computer technology). And that's great. I'll also own that I may not have conveyed my thoughts on the matter clearly enough as well. So, if you'll permit me, I'd like to try again.
Trying to succinctly wrap up my thoughts here- I believe over the past century specifically "we" made a conscious decision to put most (if not all) of our proverbial 'eggs' in one basket, and in this example IT. If we can find common ground on that point- perhaps it becomes more clear of my concerns that we did so at the expense of other industries of focus. It's my belief that we've neglected those other industries to the point where we've lost quite a bit of (hard earned) institutional knowledge in those areas.
By 'we' I'm more so referencing Westernized societies in what I'm pitching as a theory. "We" seemed to have decided that "old world" areas such as manufacturing or agriculture had somehow become 'beneath' our now 'learned & 21st century focused society' and in turn outsourced those 'lesser' industries to 2nd & 3rd worlds. The issue I'd suggest though is that approach was shortsighted in that much of our 'modern' society was still every bit as dependent on those industries continuing to exist (albeit "elsewhere") that over the decades we've "forgotten" how to do things that were common place (say steel manufacturing or mining since I'm from PA and those used to be a huge industries here in the past century). I just can't help but wonder what we may have 'gave' up in our ability to preserve as a sovereign nation with losing that capability. I also think we've legislated ourselves to the point where projects such as the Hoover Dam, Mount Rushmore, Panama Canal, just would become too costly to achieve in present day (even if we've retained the knowledge of 'how' to do it).
So put another way- yes we made some incredible gains but I feel like we gave up far more than we gained with the focus in those gains. Over the decades, I also feel like we've squandered leveraging this new technology to continue moving us "forward". To your point- we have in our pockets access to information unfathomable for millennia of the world's greatest libraries and we use it... to post cat videos and dismiss committing things to memorization because it can always be answered in a quick internet search. I'd also say, that point alone is indicative of us being on a path of further (and rapid) intellectual decline.
Starting to get back to the original intent of this particular post- I'd finish up with arguing that significant contributions to the technologies you referenced were systemically anchored in our commitment to the sciences and space exploration. Only a generation ago- we (as a nation) were able to rely on the industries we built and look to the heavens and say with a straight face that we're going to bankroll an idea/a concept of something that has never been accomplished in the history of mankind and we freakin' did it in something like 20-30 years. We reached the apex of fulfilling mankind's dreams and leveraging all that we had achieved previously and then... just as suddenly we abandoned those investments because it wasn't 'cost effective'. I can't help but wonder how much further we'd be along as a society or in technology if we kept (literally) reaching for the stars.
But in recent history, we seem to be placated with solving 80+ year old men being able to get an erection and letting the world know about it with his phone.
To get back to the the "weird & spooky" intentions of this thread, I wanted to briefly talk about the above image.
Despite living a stones throw away from Gettysburg, I'd imagine my interest in the topic started while reading a book as a youngling many years ago about the "Brown Lady" pictured above. It was likely one of the first times I was introduced to an image of such topics but I was captivated reading about the history behind where the ghost story originated and the efforts that were put in place to invalidate the picture but coming up short (at least at the time).
And I think that's what planted the seed. I'd still consider myself a skeptic first- but I also believe that there's much more to the world than we understand or take for granted to be factual.
Maybe, maybe not. Take half the crap sitting on my desk back 100 and show it around you might be burned as a witch. Normal is in the eye of the beholder.
And playing with it. What will CRISP-like devices produce in the near future?
Kinda Agnostic on this subject. Seen things I can't explain, doesn't make em ghosts or whatever.
At the same time, I think its pretty arrogant to claim theres no ghosts, aliens etc.
At the same time, I think its pretty arrogant to claim theres no ghosts, aliens etc.
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