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House Budget Proposal to remove Tax on Suppressors but not remove it from the NFA

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This is not a win. This is being patronized. They literally have the opertunity and power to do exactly what they say they want to do but they refuse. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Don't give me this, oh it's a little better shit. Just like, "we're big bad repbulicans and if you put us in power we gonna repeal obamamcare. ""well we got rid of the individual mandate." Same shit smeared on a diffrent cookie.
I’m betting you take blood pressure meds.

You’re getting all bent out of shape over politicians and the games they play. Vote for the lesser of two evils and don’t be surprised when they inevitably disappoint you in some way. I guess we can disagree on how we want to see things. Good luck in your endeavors.
 
I’m betting you take blood pressure meds.

You’re getting all bent out of shape over politicians and the games they play. Vote for the lesser of two evils and don’t be surprised when they inevitably disappoint you in some way. I guess we can disagree on how we want to see things. Good luck in your endeavors.
Don't get bent out of shape when politians lie. 🤡🤡🤡 sure!!! Thats not a stupid idea at all. Vote for the lesser of two evils. Sure that's worked out great. 🙈🙉🙉

You work for silencer central or somthing...🤣🤣🤣
 
Take a win, even if you think it’s not enough. Removing a $200 fee, that has been in effect for 90 years, is a pretty big step in the right direction.

Everyone I know who does not own a suppressor, has listed the wait time and the cost of the stamp as their reasons. With wait times down, the possibility of the stamp price going away removes the second big barrier for people. I’ve never had someone tell me they don’t own a suppressor because of the fingerprints or the paperwork.
i will tell you that plus the very obvious price gouging. have no need or want. had a RF one,stupid didn't need it was just cool. sold it to a bud after a 1yr tooth pull. and yes,i know i am on 50 data bases 100 Xs. just can't dream up a reason to spend $5-600 on something i don't need. sort of poor bull headedness. indeed there is no justification for the current AFing you get if you want one.
i do think that if that went away the chinks would step in. maybe tariffs would sink that. but i will say it. the Chinese can make really good stuff WHEN they take a notion to do so. Amazon wouldn't sell them. they are anti gun big time. no mags,no ammo prob ever. good thing for smallish vendors.
 
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The whole thing makes zero sense. IF I can walk into a gun store and then walk out with a legally purchased firearm, there are ZERO legitimate reasons why the same shouldnt apply to an accesssory.

That's how it should be however suppressors are scary to Democrats/Rinos and there are the snooty gun owners with their class 3 shit who don't want the unwashed peasants to be able to buy the same stuff.
 
There is some thread about Silencer Central being involved is selling out gun owners and lobbying against the HPA and trying to keep Suppressors as an NFA item to protect their profits...
I’m not seeing how it would hurt them too bad, they don’t get the stamp money, people will still pay too much for them, and even if prices dropped some they’d sell a shit ton more in quantity.

I’d rather sell 2 million worth of $300-400 items than a million in $1000 items. Not to mention the fact they don’t have to waste space storing sold items and are saving tons of time doing paperwork, time is money.

If cans drop off the NFA stores everywhere will sell out quickly.
 
I’m not seeing how it would hurt them too bad, they don’t get the stamp money. People will still pay too much for them. Even if prices dropped some they’d sell a shit ton more in quantity.
They don't get the stamp money.

The difference is in how NFA items are treated. With an NFA item is purchased there is a lot of paperwork involved but once all of that is satisfactory to the government, the seller can just mail or FedEx your suppressor to you. You don't even have to go to the gun store to get it.

NFA items are treated differently than regular guns, however the HPA will make it the same. Under the HPA buying a Glock and a suppressor will be the same process.

Silencer Central uses exclusively a specific online method for all of their sales. They can do that because NFA items have different rules than rifles or pistols.

Other manufacturers all use a variety of channels to sell suppressors including having a system where retailers can have them in stock (ie your local gun shop).

If they pass the HPA then almost 100% of sales will be forced to be done at the retail store level, just like any other firearms.

The problem is, Silencer Central does not have the infrastructure in place to get their products into retail shelves. If the HPA passes, first, they can no longer do those same types of online sales they are doing now, at least not in the same way.
Secondly they will have to try and build a new business model to go through retail stores and they will only have about 6 months to build up that capability.

Almost all the rest of the competition has more than one channel to sell products. Silencer Central has one, and that would be shut off if the HPA passes.

Hence they don't want the HPA.
 
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They don't get the stamp money.

The difference is in how NFA items are treated. With an NFA item is purchased there is a lot of paperwork involved but once all of that is satisfactory to the government, the seller can just mail or FedEx your suppressor to you. You don't even have to go to the gun store to get it.

NFA items are treated differently than regular guns, however the HPA will make it the same. Under the HPA buying a Glock and a suppressor will be the same process.

Silencer Central uses exclusively a specific online method for all of their sales. They can do that because NFA items have different rules than rifles or pistols.

Other manufacturers all use a variety of channels to sell suppressors including having a system where retailers can have them in stock (ie your local gun shop).

If they pass the HPA then almost 100% of sales will be forced to be done at the retail store level, just like any other firearms.

The problem is, Silencer Central does not have the infrastructure in place to get their products into retail shelves. If the HPA passes, first, they can no longer do those same types of online sales they are doing now, at least not in the same way.
Secondly they will have to try and build a new business model to go through retail stores and they will only have about 6 months to build up that capability.

Almost all the rest of the competition has more than one channel to sell products. Silencer Central has one, and that would be shut off if the HPA passes.

Hence they don't want the HPA.
You repeated shit back to me I said in the post you replied to. I said they don’t get the money.

Fun fact, I sold NFA stuff for years I know. They could definitely be a distributor for retail stores. If they lost money on this it would be because they fucked up. If you’re already shipping NFA items to homes it wouldn’t be any harder to ship NON-NFA items to retail stores.

If they lost money on a huge jump in suppressor sales they don’t deserve to be in business
 
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You repeated shit back to me I said in the post you replied to. I said they don’t get the money.

Fun fact, I sold NFA stuff for years I know. They could definitely be a distributor for retail stores. If they lost money on this it would be because they fucked up. If you’re already shipping NFA items to homes it wouldn’t be any harder to ship NON-NFA items to retail stores.

If they lost money on a huge jump in suppressor sales they don’t deserve to be in business

They could be like online gun stores that ship their items to an FFL (if silencers do indeed wind up under similar rules as regular non NFA firearms). There are tons of online retailers who make good money because they can undercut brick and mortar stores, even with the 25-50$ FFL paperwork fees etc.

If silencers wind up totally unregulated then they could drop ship them everywhere.

The only reason I can think of they might be against it is if they make a good amount of money on processing/paperwork.
 
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They could be like online gun stores that ship their items to an FFL (if silencers do indeed wind up under similar rules as regular non NFA firearms). There are tons of online retailers who make good money because they can undercut brick and mortar stores, even with the 25-50$ FFL paperwork fees etc.

If silencers wind up totally unregulated then they could drop ship them everywhere.

The only reason I can think of they might be against it is if they make a good amount of money on processing/paperwork.
I’ve never bought from them, but unless it’s a transfer that usually comes with the cost of the can. If anything they would be saving money not wasting all the time.

The one can I looked up was marked up higher than anywhere else.
 
That's how it should be however suppressors are scary to Democrats/Rinos and there are the snooty gun owners with their class 3 shit who don't want the unwashed peasants to be able to buy the same stuff.
Class 3 people are gay. The parts are available.

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Class 3 people are gay. The parts are available.

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If you think about it, these gang members with their banggood Glock switches are some of the most pro-2a people without realizing it