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#601
Not sure what the max LOP of the TCS is while still keeping full engagement of the butt pad columns in the KMW hardware, but if you needed it longer it would not be difficult to make longer columns for the butt pad assembly.

My hunch is about 14.5-14.75 max LOP with the stock columns, but I'll try and remember to check tonight.
 
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#602
Just got home and checked, about 14.8" max LOP leaving full 1.1" engagement of the columns into the KMW clamp bar.

2 options to increase the LOP if you need it longer would be longer columns or a spacer under the buttpad.
 
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Kiba said:
Just got home and checked, about 14.8" max LOP leaving full 1.1" engagement of the columns into the KMW clamp bar.

2 options to increase the LOP if you need it longer would be longer columns or a spacer under the buttpad.
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Thanks dude, appreciate it.. Thats longer than I thought, I do not need it any longer than that
 
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I am putting together a build and if I am doing the math right it's going to be around a 25lb rifle w/ can and bipod using the quoted TCS-Max weight. I assume the 8.9lb weight is quoted with the crutch weight and all rail weights installed? If so I can add the butt weight and dump the crutch weight?

My only frame of reference is an 18lb GAP 6mm creed and a 6.5CM AI @ 19.5lbs. This isn't necessarily a PRS rifle so much as a general precision build, I'm not concerned about the rifle being heavy as I am being out of balance. I am worried that the newer style TCS-Max will be extremely nose heavy given my desire to run a 28" 1.25" barrel and can.

For how long wait times are, I don't want to buy the wrong Manners stock.

Two areas of concern that might make the rifle out of balance are:
28" 1.25" (I could go 26")
TBAC Magnus-S RR

Are my thoughts of being unable to get the rifle in balance unfounded or a sincere concern? I wanted to ask here from actual TCS users.
 
#609
hairy_pineapple588 said:
So how heavy is everyone getting their Tcs for pre. Anyone running a 1.25 straight in theirs and can tell me how much it weighs?
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My rimfire build is running a 1.20 straight 24 inch and weights in at 18.5 lbs. That's with almost no weights in the aluminum rail. Depending on which rail you have, the max weight will vary a bit. If you have the OG steel rail, it can go from 1.3 lbs to 2.4 lbs. The new aluminum rails max out at 1.4 lbs and the Area 419 version with brass maxes out at 1.9 lbs. You can also add that new front weight if you have the Aluminum rail which adds another 1 lb IIRC.

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#610
RadioActivity said:
I am putting together a build and if I am doing the math right it's going to be around a 25lb rifle w/ can and bipod using the quoted TCS-Max weight. I assume the 8.9lb weight is quoted with the crutch weight and all rail weights installed? If so I can add the butt weight and dump the crutch weight?

My only frame of reference is an 18lb GAP 6mm creed and a 6.5CM AI @ 19.5lbs. This isn't necessarily a PRS rifle so much as a general precision build, I'm not concerned about the rifle being heavy as I am being out of balance. I am worried that the newer style TCS-Max will be extremely nose heavy given my desire to run a 28" 1.25" barrel and can.

For how long wait times are, I don't want to buy the wrong Manners stock.

Two areas of concern that might make the rifle out of balance are:
28" 1.25" (I could go 26")
TBAC Magnus-S RR

Are my thoughts of being unable to get the rifle in balance unfounded or a sincere concern? I wanted to ask here from actual TCS users.
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A 28” straight might be a bit nose heavy, a 26” will do well. My Foundation Samson rifle with the rear butt stock weights removed and brass up front was very nose heavy with a 26” crb comp.
 
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RadioActivity said:
I am putting together a build and if I am doing the math right it's going to be around a 25lb rifle w/ can and bipod using the quoted TCS-Max weight. I assume the 8.9lb weight is quoted with the crutch weight and all rail weights installed? If so I can add the butt weight and dump the crutch weight?

My only frame of reference is an 18lb GAP 6mm creed and a 6.5CM AI @ 19.5lbs. This isn't necessarily a PRS rifle so much as a general precision build, I'm not concerned about the rifle being heavy as I am being out of balance. I am worried that the newer style TCS-Max will be extremely nose heavy given my desire to run a 28" 1.25" barrel and can.

For how long wait times are, I don't want to buy the wrong Manners stock.

Two areas of concern that might make the rifle out of balance are:
28" 1.25" (I could go 26")
TBAC Magnus-S RR

Are my thoughts of being unable to get the rifle in balance unfounded or a sincere concern? I wanted to ask here from actual TCS users.
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How heavy are you trying to make it? You could definitely be nose heavy if you run the full set of weights in the front plus the extra weight they include. With a 28" 1.25 barrel and can, I don't see a reason to buy the Max over a regular TCS unless you want a super heavy rifle. I've handled a 25 lbs rifle and it just seems excessive to me. Though that also depends on what cartridge you're running. If you're running something like a 6 BR/GT, you really don't need a 25lb rifle IMO.
 
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It's less about how heavy I want to make it and the build components I wanted. I can play with barrel profile and length a little. I am unsure if I'll run the can (mirage is enough of an issue) but at the same time I can always spin on a comp if I want to return to it. I just shoot suppressed so much better without getting clobbered with concussion.

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CRB Comp 28" (1.25) 6.5CM
Magnus S RR w/ SR mount
TCS/TCS-Max (the question)
7-35 ATACR
Condition One Max mount w/ level
Triggertech
Bottom metal undecided.
Atlas CAL or Ckye undecided.

Not a gamer gun in GT, it's a 6.5CM. I'll never carry the rifle far, other setups do that better.

If you add up all the weight - and what I'm assuming is the all up weight of the TCS-Max - it's 25lbs, if the quoted 8.9 lbs for the max does indeed include the crutch weight. I just want to make sure I'm not going to make something absolutely miserably nose heavy. If the OG TCS is the better choice I can put in an order for one.

It's hard to make decisions on setup when people have various generations of TCS.
 
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RadioActivity said:
It's less about how heavy I want to make it and the build components I wanted. I can play with barrel profile and length a little. I am unsure if I'll run the can (mirage is enough of an issue) but at the same time I can always spin on a comp if I want to return to it. I just shoot suppressed so much better without getting clobbered with concussion.

737R
CRB Comp 28" (1.25) 6.5CM
Magnus S RR w/ SR mount
TCS/TCS-Max (the question)
7-35 ATACR
Condition One Max mount w/ level
Triggertech
Bottom metal undecided.
Atlas CAL or Ckye undecided.

Not a gamer gun in GT, it's a 6.5CM. I'll never carry the rifle far, other setups do that better.

If you add up all the weight - and what I'm assuming is the all up weight of the TCS-Max - it's 25lbs, if the quoted 8.9 lbs for the max does indeed include the crutch weight. I just want to make sure I'm not going to make something absolutely miserably nose heavy. If the OG TCS is the better choice I can put in an order for one.

It's hard to make decisions on setup when people have various generations of TCS.
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The quoted weight for the TCS-MAX includes the crutch weight. I think they actually changed that rail from their modular one to a solid rail with that weight out front. I could be wrong, but that's what they're selling in their parts section now:

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Between the massive weight of your barrel plus the suppressor, I don't think there is any reason you would benefit from the TCS-Max.
 
#614
Mark_Dorman said:
The quoted weight for the TCS-MAX includes the crutch weight. I think they actually changed that rail from their modular one to a solid rail with that weight out front. I could be wrong, but that's what they're selling in their parts section now:

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Between the massive weight of your barrel plus the suppressor, I don't think there is any reason you would benefit from the TCS-Max.
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Totally agree, the standard TCS is all you will need.
 
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Mark_Dorman said:
The quoted weight for the TCS-MAX includes the crutch weight. I think they actually changed that rail from their modular one to a solid rail with that weight out front. I could be wrong, but that's what they're selling in their parts section now:

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Between the massive weight of your barrel plus the suppressor, I don't think there is any reason you would benefit from the TCS-Max.
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That is frustrating, I didn't realize that.
 
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